Apocalypse Oscar Isaac IS Apocalypse - Part 2

[jaymes_e06]

 

[kasjan]

I saw third time the movie.
The more I see movie, the more I recognize religious signs, bible shots and gesticulate in scenes with Oscar.
Yup he, he really studied it.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

My biggest problem with Apocalypse is that they made him too human. The story and the prologue present him as this mythic, larger than life, god-like figure and then when we see him he's basically just a goofy looking, more powerful, less developed Magneto. When his first scene after being resurrected was just talking to some muggers in the street, I knew we were in trouble.

Look at the X-Men Evolution version. That guy was a force of nature. This Apocalypse wasn't much different than any other mutant. Not exactly somebody who could be confused with a god.

 

[ApophènX]

My biggest problem with Apocalypse is that they made him too human. The story and the prologue present him as this mythic, larger than life, god-like figure and then when we see him he's basically just a goofy looking, more powerful, less developed Magneto. When his first scene after being resurrected was just talking to some muggers in the street, I knew we were in trouble.

Look at the X-Men Evolution version. That guy was a force of nature. This Apocalypse wasn't much different than any other mutant. Not exactly somebody who could be confused with a god.

Because the world as he state is rule by false god, there is no room for him anymore. Is not that different thzn those false god though.

But if you doubt it they did made Apocalypse a goofy vilain that cares about the look of his horsmens like toys and make a big ugly statue of himself inside a gigantic pyramid. He is out of time. The guy woke up from a long nap and is like whuuut this is not right i'm gojna change that. And if you can't feel he is a force of nature when he down all the nuke in the world or erase an entire city wich represented the center of the world then id on't know.

Apocalypse wasn't a god, the speach says so in the very beggining people with immense power will think themeselves as god, but they are not, they are just men, or mutant. And this reflects really well our world today and human condition.

Through the movie Apocalypse repeat that "all will be revealed" and it is, the real "god" or cosmic figure is revealed but he was just a fraud. Man to woman. They made a twisted laugh of patriarcal figure (because old testament/solar gods are what shap the world an rational thinking if you don't know).

As for Apocalypse not being a force of nature, agzin, not true. He serve as an enhancer of power and revelling the hidden forces (reach deep down to the earth magneto). He is in clear opposition to technology. He shut the nuke down.

In X-Men evolution Apocalypse used tehcnology alot more and it was said it was it that allowed him to have is power amplified or survived, force of nature bye bye.

 

[DavidHaller]

I also leave it here...

early Apocalypse design by Jerad S Marantz...

 

[harryoscop]

Why does all the concept art look better than the final product?

 

[Rowsdower!]

My biggest problem with Apocalypse is that they made him too human. The story and the prologue present him as this mythic, larger than life, god-like figure and then when we see him he's basically just a goofy looking, more powerful, less developed Magneto. When his first scene after being resurrected was just talking to some muggers in the street, I knew we were in trouble.

Look at the X-Men Evolution version. That guy was a force of nature. This Apocalypse wasn't much different than any other mutant. Not exactly somebody who could be confused with a god.

Yeah, he was really underwhelming. Like you said, Apocalypse needs to be a force of nature. I remember a line from Age of Apocalypse that describe him as "having a voice thunder would envy." He is a presence. When he walks into a room, everyone else in there should be sh**ting themselves in fear. This Apocalypse just felt like a *****e.

 

[2kt09]

My biggest problem with Apocalypse is that they made him too human. The story and the prologue present him as this mythic, larger than life, god-like figure and then when we see him he's basically just a goofy looking, more powerful, less developed Magneto. When his first scene after being resurrected was just talking to some muggers in the street, I knew we were in trouble.

Ironically my issue has been they didn't humanize him enough, especially for horseman recruitment.
He pretty much only spoke in lofty sentences and speeches, some of which were written too hokey for the moment.
Oh and that scene with the muggers is his best one.

That Apoc concept art...just, nope.
Looking forward to more, though.

 

[PunyGod]

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[psylockolussus]

I don't like the face but the suit looks good though it looks too high-tech and a bit sexy for Apocalypse. But I prefer its silhouette than the Pharaoh-ish silhouette that we got in the movie.

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah, face looks weird (mainly the forehead) but the costume is a million times cooler
add a couple Egyptian style touches to slightly tone down the 'Marvel'-ness of the design and fix the head triangles, and this would've been much better

 

[X-Maniac]

Yes, it does look better overall. More believable, although quite an advanced design of armour for ancient Egypt.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Eh. At the end of the day, when it comes to superhero movies, I care more if something looks cool more than how much it actually makes sense. And it's not like X-Men: Apocalypse made a hell of a lot of sense anyway, especially when it came to the Ancient Egyptian technology (apparently they had solar panels in 3150 BC).

It all goes back to Bryan Singer and his costume designers and makeup teams. The guy just flat out DOESN'T KNOW how to make superheroes and supervillains look cool. Once in a while they do a good job (Mystique, Nightcrawler and Psylocke), but for the most part, their designs are lackluster at best and atrocious at worst.

 

[ApophènX]

Look is nice and cool bit thats pretty much it. The all superhero things has always been about looking ridiculous like in your little fantasy, it's about guys dressing in colorfull underwear. It was all about looking bad but doing good.

The X-Men are about being different and rejected. So if the costume are not cool and mainstream superhero fashion the movie is bad. If they don't make the hero look acceptable the meaning has no importance (xma made a lot of sens btw), it had that wonder, a divine kitch coming all the way from the 60's and beyond.

It is sad for the superheroes in order to be known by all had to be mainstream and loose part of their essence. It has always been ridiculous looking fun goofy weird, psychedelic and outrageous. Jeez....

As for Apocalypse i really liked the dress he was in at the beggining with the horus mask, pure egyptian, it felt right like it with lots of colors and motifs. As for the golden liquid and all the runic and symbols glowing with the sun it gave a super nice futuristic looking to it. This ancient-futur was still present in Apoczlypse look, i thought it was funny because even when it came out the grave it felt like he was still under a tone ^^ tBut since he only had to moove a hand to blast a city it felt appropriate.

All hail Ivan Ooze, the purple wizard.

 

[xmanzo]

 

[Legion]

Yes, it does look better overall. More believable, although quite an advanced design of armour for ancient Egypt.

I'm not sure why this matters. Isn't Apocalypse's armor from alien technology in the comics? And I mean the armor we got in the film is too advanced as well with the tubes going into his head.

Also he didn't necessarily need to keep using his outfit from ancient Egypt. He could have given himself a new one like he did for his horsemen. The origin of the armor and it's properties are never explained. It doesn't seem to have any purpose other than being armor, so it could have looked like anything.

 

[ApophènX]

Noted some new things in relation to the armor, first Apocalypse is wearing a suit of mutlyiple colored feathers and a Ra mask. Ra is the god of the sun and a bird face.

There is also the Ankh symbol present on his belly within a triangle wich represent many things https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh

It can represent life (after life), conception, "male triad and female unit...where the sun's ray are terminating with hands they bring the cross ansata"

This is all very relevant to the movie with the sun symbolism and Jean's awakening.

I will go further in linked beetwen the characters and implying Wolverin in the equation.

Wolverin like Jean in X2 ends up drown in a lake and resurecting. He has a a healing factor.
At the beggining of XMA Apocalypse receive an healing factor and is then burried alive. When Jean blow him in dust, right before, the symbol on his belly explode. Wich can symbolize birth since the Ankh is a symbol of conception. Wolverine in each X-Men movies stab woman in thhe stomach, but in XMA Jean's cures him and he take needles out of his own stomach. Apocalypse like him is being free by Jean, when the Ankh explodes, they both shared link with memory coming back and both used to be on table of operation on their rebirth (DoFP Wolverine pass is time on a mystic table of sacrifice with a sun symbol in it and is resurect by Mystique on a metal table lifting him through the lake).

 

[Frankeh]

Eh that concept art looks like a generic Mass Effect/Prometheus alien in a suit.

I'd honestly just have gone with the original X-Factor look... and have him be a massive guy... but what's done is done.

 

[kasjan]

I prefer movie version than this techno alien concept art.

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah, the technological aspect doesn't really fit him (at least, without the celestials being involved)
but the silhouette of this look is a million times better than the movie version

...
unrelated, but does anyone know where the rights to the High Evolutionary reside? Fox or Marvel??

 

[2kt09]

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[DavidHaller]

I always thought that the costume/make-up artists did a very bad job with Apocalypse's design. I just realized that it was Singer who ruined Apocalypse's design for me with bad angles and too many close-ups. The design from a little bit of distance is actually pretty cool and works great...damn, there are instagram behind the scenes shots which look better than the actual movie presentation.

What was wrong with Singer shooting this movie? Was it dominant studio involvement? or did he simply did not care at all??

 

[emmymae]

I was actually really pleased with the design. Apocalypse is a hard character to bring into real life. With pen and ink, you can make anything. Actualizing things in reality is much harder. And Oscar Isaacs is too awesome. From Poe Dameron to megalomaniac, Omega-level ancient mutant: now that is having a range!

 

[psyonic]

I was actually really pleased with the design. Apocalypse is a hard character to bring into real life. With pen and ink, you can make anything. Actualizing things in reality is much harder. And Oscar Isaacs is too awesome. From Poe Dameron to megalomaniac, Omega-level ancient mutant: now that is having a range!

I like Oscar Isaac but Apocalypse was poorly written.

 

[Frankeh]

I blame Singer. If Singer hadn't put his own spin on him and just went with the popular version of the character (X-Factor, TAS) most people would've been likely pleased. But Singer decided to go full practical, no CG enhancements to make him taller or fix the facial prosthetics, played around with his voice (the trailers are indicative of this), little of the outlandish comic power displays (except for going giant, and teleporting?), etc.