Apocalypse Oscar Isaac IS Apocalypse

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I kind of appreciate that they're giving us a real-life character though. No matter how good CGI or motion capture is, it always looks fake to some degree. I'm hoping they'll maybe enhance this look with CGI, and have the real Isaac as a base.

I appreciate the Practical Effects, but this is a character who really is larger than life. Planet of the apes has done phenomenal using MoCap and I don't see why they didn't do that here. Or at least getting the face right like in that picture I posted a page back. That alone does so much.
 
I wanted this to be my signature in the worst way. Alas, it was too long. Maybe I can make it into an avatar.

If you believe:

-That blue and purple are the same color...

That appearing skinny is the same thing as wearing bulky armor and musculature...

-That a thorny squid crown is the same thing as a technologically advanced headpiece that is growing into one’s skin...

-That having mostly smooth skin is the same as having extremely wrinkled skin.

-That a chin with squid thorns is the same as a chin without them...

-That an armored blue and silver Egyptian tunic-like garb is the same as a long purple sparkly and studded cloak, robe and sash combo…

-That having a giant silver neckpiece is the same as having no neckpiece...

-That having tubes coming out of your head and arms is the same as not having them at all...

Then congratulations, because the education system has failed you.
 
Oscar Isaac talks abit about Apocalypse

In the latest X-Men installment, due May 27, 2016, ancient mutant Apocalypse is unearthed after 5,000 years and recruits four mutants—Magneto (Michael Fassbender), Psylocke (Olivia Munn), Storm (Alexandra Shipp) and Angel (Ben Hardy)—to reboot the world through destruction.

Isaac has been a fan of the series since he was a kid. “I grew up reading the comics and I actually collected X Factor when I was younger and that was when Apocalypse first showed up,” the actor told EW on the set of Apocalypse. “And I was particularly freaked out with like the second coming and the end of the world, the apocalypse, so when there was a character that embodied that, and even from Sunday school, I remember the four horsemen and all that kind of imagery that’s still to this day some of the scariest imagery I can think of.”


Image Credit: Jesse Grant/Getty Images for Disney
Creating the look of Apocalypse was a group effort and required a few iterations in order for the blue mutant to make it to the screen. “We had to do some adjustments here and there and be like, alright, maybe this is too alien,” says Isaac, who endures two hours of makeup for the look. “He also is someone who people would want to follow and not just be terrified of. So the balance, and then making sure that there’s some great elements from the comic but also making our own thing as well. In the comic, he generally is like 12 feet, 600 pounds.”

Without giving too much away, Isaac does say he gets to do some pretty badass things in Apocalypse. “I mean that last battle is going to be pretty insane. I mean, it’s like freaking Apocalypse fighting all of the X-Men. It’s pretty cool.”

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/15/oscar-isaac-promises-insane-final-battle-x-men-apocalypse
 
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Without giving too much away, Isaac does say he gets to do some pretty badass things in Apocalypse. “I mean that last battle is going to be pretty insane. I mean, it’s like freaking Apocalypse fighting all of the X-Men. It’s pretty cool.”
That will be glorious.
 
BINGO!!!

Somebody finally said it!

Jesus, tired of these weak a**, spin doctor excuses for every X-film! There's always an excuse for these films! Singer cannot do this genre. It's obvious and staring us all in the face. The dude has no vision or flare for these types of films.

Would it have really been so horrible to go mo-cap and CGI for Apocalypse? Would the earth fall off it's axis if, god forbid, we got accurate costumes and character depictions? Oh, silly me, I keep forgetting How corny, silly and stupid these characters would look if they had comic accurate costumes like the MCU and DCU.

The X-franchise continues to be the odd-ball franchise. Even WB/DC looks like they have finally figured out the formula for these films. Not Fox/Singer! "Just throw the fans a bone or two with nods from the comics and that should be enough". Going all out fantasy/sci-fi with our comic book properties is to great a risk. Let's just stick to what we do best and let it ride".

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Ugh.....this franchise. X-fans continue to hope and wait for the X-Men to get the same big screen bonanza treatment as the MCU and DCU comic book films.

Yikes, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

I agree that Singer's style is not congruent with the MCU or Zack Snyder (who seems to be painting the DCCU in his image these days). But what the Hell, I'll give it a chance?

After X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Days of Future Past--both VASTLY superior IMO to each competitor's most recent films in the funeral dirge that was Man of Steel and the noisy nonsense that was Avengers: Age of Ultron--despite how bad the costume looks (and I agree it looks bad in these pictures), they've earned enough goodwill for me to keep an open mind. Oscar Isaac is one of the best actors of his generation and from just the vocal choices of his line-readings from the Comic-Con trailer, I can already tell he will bring some amazing charisma to this role....hopefully enough to overcome the costume.

But yes, truly at this point it reminds me of casting Willem Dafoe and putting him in that horrible Green Goblin costume for the first Spider-Man movie. With that said, Bryan Singer has demonstrated more vision for compelling storytelling than any director not named James Gunn at Marvel Studios. So, I will reserve judgement until the final film, especially since all the other costumes look terrific.
 
Honestly, he looks horrible, IMO. He looks like a guy who is painted blue and wearing clothes that are too big for him. It is underwhelming, IMO.

I was always fearful about Singer directing this, because he lacks imagination as a director. If you want a down to earth, character piece, Singer is your guy. If you want a sci-fi/fantasy epic (which is the stage needed to do a villain like Apocalypse justice), you need someone else. His unimaginative and underwhelming use of Sentinels underlines his lack of a vision on this level, IMO. I hope he proves me wrong, but the early shots do nothing to reassure me.

I am a little surprised at this. I was under the impression you were a fan of Days of Future Past. And honestly, I thought the Sentinels and Quicksilver both looked visually boring in that when I first saw the production designs. Then in the finished film, they still are better than their contemporaries in the much more expensive and comic book accurate Age of Ultron (ultronbots and Pietro, respectively).

But yes, I agree the costume looks horrible in the photos. Hopefully, in the film though it will not matter.
 
Not surprised people are jumping into conclusions with DCCU. For starters MOS was a very divisive film and there's still no guarantee the same won't happen with BVS. At this point I think FOX is doing better in terms of reception (until FF comes out, that is...)
 
I'm not worried about the movie, just his look. You can imagine how excited fans got when they announced Apocalypse. The FIRST thing people think of is his iconic face. Shame.
 
Tell me how tall generally he's in movie, not in comic.
 
We don't know. He tends to upgrade himself as he grows more powerful, and one of his powers is changing his size as needed. So make of that what you will.
 
I am a little surprised at this. I was under the impression you were a fan of Days of Future Past. And honestly, I thought the Sentinels and Quicksilver both looked visually boring in that when I first saw the production designs. Then in the finished film, they still are better than their contemporaries in the much more expensive and comic book accurate Age of Ultron (ultronbots and Pietro, respectively).

But yes, I agree the costume looks horrible in the photos. Hopefully, in the film though it will not matter.

Actually, I preferred the look of the movie sentinels to the comics (where they often looks non-threatening/goofy). The past Sentinels were meant to reassure people, so naturally they'd look more benign. And the future one's are supposed to be the stuff of Mutant's nightmares (which they were).
 
I love the Sentinel designs, they feel naturally like they belong in the X1-2 world. If they just do to his face what a photoshopper did a few pages back, it'll look great.
 
BINGO!!!

Somebody finally said it!

Jesus, tired of these weak a**, spin doctor excuses for every X-film! There's always an excuse for these films! Singer cannot do this genre. It's obvious and staring us all in the face. The dude has no vision or flare for these types of films.

Would it have really been so horrible to go mo-cap and CGI for Apocalypse? Would the earth fall off it's axis if, god forbid, we got accurate costumes and character depictions? Oh, silly me, I keep forgetting How corny, silly and stupid these characters would look if they had comic accurate costumes like the MCU and DCU.

The X-franchise continues to be the odd-ball franchise. Even WB/DC looks like they have finally figured out the formula for these films. Not Fox/Singer! "Just throw the fans a bone or two with nods from the comics and that should be enough". Going all out fantasy/sci-fi with our comic book properties is to great a risk. Let's just stick to what we do best and let it ride".

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Ugh.....this franchise. X-fans continue to hope and wait for the X-Men to get the same big screen bonanza treatment as the MCU and DCU comic book films.

Yeah Singer needs to take notes of Aquaman's costume in DCU comic book film.
 
We don't know. He tends to upgrade himself as he grows more powerful, and one of his powers is changing his size as needed. So make of that what you will.
I know he can grow, I want to know what his generally height in this movie. If only 6ft, then go fu.. yourself Bryan.
Apocalypse is my favorite X-Men villain, and he's one of those big scary looking bad guys, so better...
 
The Sentinels were great. Not a direct replica of the comic book Sentinels, but a smart adaptation.

Apocalypse is a smart adaptation of the comic book version, balancing a pharaoh aesthetic, future/alien technology, and an appearance that isn't so alien that no one would follow him, while completely transforming Isaac into something unrecognizable.

I would take this practical design over CGI/mo-cap any day. Thanos looks exactly like the comics, but he doesn't look real; I didn't believe that Thanos was actually there existing in the same space as Ronin, for example. He doesn't look like a character who you could shake hands with or touch because he's a cartoon. That works in the MCU because their movies are clearly artifice and ungrounded. Apocalypse has a real presence and that will make a huge difference when watching him interact with other characters and his environment.

The last thing I want for the X-films is for them to feel like a Marvel Studios movie.

I hope Apocalypse doesn't have white eyes, at least all the time. I want to be able to see where he's looking. Isaac will do a lot of acting through his eyes.
 
The Sentinels were great. Not a direct replica of the comic book Sentinels, but a smart adaptation.

Apocalypse is a smart adaptation of the comic book version, balancing a pharaoh aesthetic, future/alien technology, and an appearance that isn't so alien that no one would follow him, while completely transforming Isaac into something unrecognizable.

I would take this practical design over CGI/mo-cap any day. Thanos looks exactly like the comics, but he doesn't look real; I didn't believe that Thanos was actually there existing in the same space as Ronin, for example. He doesn't look like a character who you could shake hands with or touch because he's a cartoon. That works in the MCU because their movies are clearly artifice and ungrounded. Apocalypse has a real presence and that will make a huge difference when watching him interact with other characters and his environment.

The last thing I want for the X-films is for them to feel like a Marvel Studios movie.

I hope Apocalypse doesn't have white eyes, at least all the time. I want to be able to see where he's looking. Isaac will do a lot of acting through his eyes.


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Let's put it like this, although Apocalypse is a great villain, he always did look like he could be a villain on Power Rangers (even in the comics). The cosplay pics that people keep posting does not help, instead it makes it even more obvious that he's a Power Rangers monster. The only version of Apocalypse that doesn't have a Power Rangers vibe is the one from X-Men Evolution due to the Egyptian themes being played up more.
 
I would take this practical design over CGI/mo-cap any day.

Same. Then again I've gotten older and more grumpy, and I often like to moan like this: "that could've been a real set instead of a cartoon background"

...but I do love practical sets/effects/performances over pure CGI. CGI is perfect when it's used to fill the gaps seamlessly. When it's used too much, I get thrown out of the movie immediately.

And I do like how these movies don't all look and play the same. It's good to have competition and variety. It does seem like different studios have their own thing they're aiming at (too much even, trying to fit everything into a certain mold), and I can appreciate different kinds of movies. I wouldn't want them all to be the same.
 
He should take notes from MCU's Thanos absolutely. Theres no argument against that except that they're saving *real* Apocalypse for when they reboot the series from scratch.
 
Because of Apocalypse this forum is like

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He should take notes from MCU's Thanos absolutely. Theres no argument against that except that they're saving *real* Apocalypse for when they reboot the series from scratch.
There are a ton of arguments.
 
That Thanos doesn't look real? He looked more *in* the scene than the future Sentinels looked IMO. They looked cool but also like CGI, wrongly lit etc.

Look at that Apocalypse cosplay a few pages back, that is dedication from people who want to make the character look real and straight off the page. If its CGI thats the problem, do it the way that cosplayer did

Also this purple/blue Ooze villain doesn't look anything like the grey skinned, blue lipped kid at the end of DOFP.
 
I would prefer both mo-cap and CGI together. Like they did Colossus for Deadpool. Maybe even some practical effects.

Use mo-cap so he isnt completly fake as he have real motions. Use CGI to echance him even more to look big and give him look which looks more real so he isnt like Thanos. And as I said I use makeup or prostethics so he doesnt look fake, he can have expressions in closer look from the camera.

https://36.media.tumblr.com/198f7c7567a38ff0c41bec4ca096cb02/tumblr_nn9w93XwEM1u3qoh5o1_500.jp

If they wanted to make real Apocalypse they could done it. They clearly did not. We got cheap fake Power Rangers costume, same as we did for two incarantions of Green Goblin, etc.
 
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