Paramount Dumps Tom Cruise

[Darthphere]

I think it was used more as an excuse. I'm sure if MI3 was the top of the box office, Cruise wouldn't have been let go. I think they were willing to tolerate his antics if his movies did well.

Of course.

 

[Matt]

have you seen any of his movies?.. really, cause thats just f**king retared what you just said. Collateral, WOTW, Jerry Maguire, Vanilla Sky, The Last Samurai, Eyes wide shut, Magnolia..yeah, he played the same character in all of these movies

About time somebody says it! Cruise has not been stuck in his 80s Maverick persona...since, well...the 80s. He is one of the most accomplished actors in Hollywood.

 

[Darthphere]

But on another note, Maverick ****ing rocks.

 

[Matt]

But on another note, Maverick ****ing rocks.

Yes he does.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I think it was used more as an excuse. I'm sure if MI3 was the top of the box office, Cruise wouldn't have been let go. I think they were willing to tolerate his antics if his movies did well.

Of course they were. But his antics hurt his image, his image hurt his marketability.

 

[Erzengel]

Come to think of it. He was quiet after the whole thing with Oprah, Lauer after War of the Worlds ended. A year later with MI3 and people still didn't forget.

 

[Matt]

Come to think of it. He was quiet after the whole thing with Oprah, Lauer after War of the Worlds ended. A year later with MI3 and people still didn't forget.

Thats because the media won't let go.

 

[Chris Wallace]

True.

 

[ultimatefan]

Mission Impossible III is marked at $393 million worldwide.
Tom Cruise was paid upwards of 80 million not including his %revenues.
Thats why MI3 was a failure with Cruise.



The problem with Cruise is his name is the only thing that keeps him in work. Its not like hes a great thespian. I mean how many of his characters are actually different from one another? People hire Tom Cruise to be "Tom Cruise" and now that "Tom Cruise" is a joke they arent going to be hiring him.

Like I said before, Cruise can be a good actor when he´s not just doing his Maverick persona, as he did in movies like Collateral and Last Samurai.

 

[7Hells]

you got a link to this claim?

Sure, go to the first page of this thread and click.

Like I said before, Cruise can be a good actor when he´s not just doing his Maverick persona, as he did in movies like Collateral and Last Samurai.

and Rain man, Cocktail, mission imossibles, war of the worlds, minority report, The Firm, a few good men, far and away, days of thunder, born on the fourth of july, young guns, Color of money, risky business, jerry maguire...

I think it is far less work to ask in which of his movies did he not play a cocky, smart yet good hearted guy with a hot temper.
Interview with a Vampire comes to mind but I havent watched it in a while so cant comment.
I also have not seen Eyes Wide Shut.

Im not saying his performances arent moving im just saying the roles he is cast in and plays are merely an alteration of one character.

 

[gvcool2]

Sure, go to the first page of this thread and click.

and Rain man, Cocktail, mission imossibles, war of the worlds, minority report, The Firm, a few good men, far and away, days of thunder, born on the fourth of july, young guns, Color of money, risky business, jerry maguire...

I think it is far less work to ask in which of his movies did he not play a cocky, smart yet good hearted guy with a hot temper.
Interview with a Vampire comes to mind but I havent watched it in a while so cant comment.
I also have not seen Eyes Wide Shut.

Im not saying his performances arent moving im just saying the roles he is cast in and plays are merely an alteration of one character.

you pretty much named every personality someone could have

 

[7Hells]

eeer ok.
You need to get to know more people then.

 

[gvcool2]

ye thats what i've been told

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yes, it was all the media's fault, Cruise had nothing to do with it. Good thing I never cared for that overrated rant factory.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I watched "Legend" yesterday. It's a shame that entertainers aren't judged solely by the quality of their work.

 

[Erzengel]

I doubt Cruise thinks of Legend as one of higher quality roles. I use to make the joke, that Legend is what they put into their machines when Cruise was over friends' houses
.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Maybe. Even though it looked like 2/3 of the movie's budget went into Tim Curry's costume, it was still fun.

 

[TrailerCues]

I can see Cruise pretty much taking a vacation for a while, stay on the down low like Ben Affleck did & then come back with a hit. I think alot of crazy famous people will be following Ben Affleck examble

 

[Chris Wallace]

Because in Ben's case, it seems to have worked. We know absolutely nothing about Ben & Jennifer's marriage, what's going on w/Violet, their home life, nothing. And nobody's asking. Then "Hollywoodland" comes out & people are raving about it. This is how you repair your image in Hollywood. Get out of the spotlight for a minute, let people forget about you, then wait for a worthwhile project to come along & take it. Tom's making all the right moves right now; hopefully he'll be smart & continue to do so.

 

[Erzengel]

I don't think Ben ever embarassed himself and the media jumped on it like Cruise.

 

[gvcool2]

theres a difference between a bad movie and crazy public antics

 

[Chris Wallace]

The worst thing w/Ben was we were getting sick of his love life. I think even if "Gigli" had actually been good it still would've bombed because it starred 2 people that we just had seen too much of.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

I noticed in almost all the commercials for Hollywoodland...They never mention Afflecks name...lol. Yet still show him.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Hadn't thought about that BB, but you're right. In fact I've seen promos that didn't even show him.

 

[jimmylace]

I like cruise as an actor, and he has been in some incredible films-in fact my favourite movie of all time is one of his......but I also think that the main reason for his slide in popularity is blown out of proportion by the media.
The guy in the UK that squirted him with a water pistol (show ironically called balls of steel) looked absolutely petrified when cruise pulled him up. fair play- the guy deserved it and cruise never pressed charges.
The oprah "fiasco," big deal-it really wasnt that bad, just a little cringeworthy.

The big thing for me is the support of scientology-which truly is by all definitions an insidious and potentially dangerous cult. Why doesnt cruise believe in psychiatric drugs?
I thought he had a point, he almost swayed me with a simple argument. "the ideal situation is not to be on drugs, and I dont think that there is enough scientific evidence to validate their use"-I'm paraphrasing, but still....I thought well...fair enough.

But then of course I read this:

"Hubbard claimed that psychiatrists were an ancient evil that had been a problem for billions of years. He cast them in the role of assisting Xenu's genocide of 75 million years ago. In a 1982 bulletin entitled "Pain and Sex", Hubbard declares that pain and sex were the INVENTED TOOLS of degredation," having been devised eons ago by psychiatrists "how have been on the (time) track a long time and are the SOLE cause of decline in this universe."

It's official. The man needs help.