Paul Dano is Edward Nashton aka "The Riddler"

That’s a no for me. Hannibal Lecter and John Doe are very similar to the Riddler as far as riddles are concerned. The Riddler can also be as narcissistic as Ted Bundy and be as cryptic as The Zodiac killer. That just simply is how you would do a serious version of him. He’s a psychopath.

Your hero is only ever as good as your villain, so if The Riddler is seen as pathetic, it just won’t bring as much of a challenge to Batman as it could. Stick to Riddler’s MO. Mind games, death traps, torture and a complete disregard for human life. He has been this way since his first appearance in Detective Comics 140 and he should be this way in the film.

Also, no “who is Batman” storyline. I’m sick of that. There’s hundreds of other motives he could have.
Riddler is interesting because he's genuinely menacing, he's genuinely very intelligent and can cause a lot of harm. However, there's also the flip side that once you start to strip away his plans and persona, he reveals himself to be really, really pathetic and delusional. That's what's always made the character so interesting in the comics and the animated series and Arkham Games, at least to me. He's not just a super badass dignified supervillain.
 
Riddler is interesting because he's genuinely menacing, he's genuinely very intelligent and can cause a lot of harm. However, there's also the flip side that once you start to strip away his plans and persona, he reveals himself to be really, really pathetic and delusional. That's what's always made the character so interesting in the comics and the animated series and Arkham Games, at least to me. He's not just a super badass dignified supervillain.

My thing is this. He doesn’t need to be “super badass” (however people are choosing to define this) nor does he need to be pathetic nor a stereotypical nerd. I think this is what many fail to realize about his character. I’ve never liked the idea of him being weak nor making empty threats behind closed doors nor failing at everything he works on. That limits so much of his potential.

A weasel, yes. In his first comic, he put people in harms way to create a diversion to escape. He doesn’t care if he hurts women or even babies for that matter. Strange? Absolutely. The Riddler has always displayed bizarre and “questionable” behavior such as getting tattoos in strange places ( not that I necessarily want that) or wearing eccentric accessories or even just doing something absolutely weird.

Psychopaths are highly intelligent, calculated, narcissistic and manipulative. Yet, they are also impulsive and once they feel that they are no longer in control, they become angry and get sloppy in their work. Their egos also get the best of them and that is where their delusions come from.

Another thing is that a Paul Dano is too great of an actor to be type casted as only playing “weak” or “pathetic” characters. He’s very intelligent in real life and that is what I would love to be conveyed through his version of the character.

What I want from the Riddler is simple. I want to see his MO in a serious light. I want riddles in multiple forms and not just questions a third grader can figure out. I want to see him actually outsmart Batman and the GCPD at some point.
 
We will have a Riddler who makes complicate riddles, that I'm sure of.

But physically, and this is in every comics ever created, he ain't no match to Batman, so yes, in front of the Dark Knight, he will seem weak, he won't be like Joker where's he's not scared of the Bat, on the contrary, I think it would make for a great scene that the last time Batman catches him, Riddler is scared the hell out of him. Sure I want him to be a bit of a psychopath but who thinks his actions and his motivations are right and justified.

And for the suits/costume, I don't know, Matt Reeves calling him Edward Nashton shows the more grounded way he is going for, so I think the media will call him the Riddler but he won't.

And his last interview shows that he somehow wants to integrate some surreal things in his universe but in a way that is specific et inked into his unique vision.

I don't think it will be like Wakanda's technology where all of a sudden everyone can have a mask that form from nowhere with nanotechnology as an excuses.
 
I say you need the right balance. Make him a threat, willing to risk lives and all for the sake of the puzzle, but also keep that sense of patheticness and outbursts when things don't go his way. I always saw Riddler as more of a narcissist than a psychopath. He cares more about "the game" and doesn't really set out to harm/kill, and I believe there's even been interpretations where he's regretted the loss of life . He probably sees himself as above senseless murder.
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Im definitely not expecting Edward to wear a suit, and Im fully expecting him to have glasses. I also think he'll be very experienced with computers, and of course explosives.
 
I only hope his Riddler is as funny or should I say more twisted than Jim Carrey in Batman Forever
 
This is probably my most anticipated casting in the whole film.
 
Him being surprised and also adding even more exciting adjectives in regards to the script is awesome to see.
 
My thing is this. He doesn’t need to be “super badass” (however people are choosing to define this) nor does he need to be pathetic nor a stereotypical nerd. I think this is what many fail to realize about his character. I’ve never liked the idea of him being weak nor making empty threats behind closed doors nor failing at everything he works on. That limits so much of his potential.

A weasel, yes. In his first comic, he put people in harms way to create a diversion to escape. He doesn’t care if he hurts women or even babies for that matter. Strange? Absolutely. The Riddler has always displayed bizarre and “questionable” behavior such as getting tattoos in strange places ( not that I necessarily want that) or wearing eccentric accessories or even just doing something absolutely weird.

Psychopaths are highly intelligent, calculated, narcissistic and manipulative. Yet, they are also impulsive and once they feel that they are no longer in control, they become angry and get sloppy in their work. Their egos also get the best of them and that is where their delusions come from.

Another thing is that a Paul Dano is too great of an actor to be type casted as only playing “weak” or “pathetic” characters. He’s very intelligent in real life and that is what I would love to be conveyed through his version of the character.

What I want from the Riddler is simple. I want to see his MO in a serious light. I want riddles in multiple forms and not just questions a third grader can figure out. I want to see him actually outsmart Batman and the GCPD at some point.
Yeah, the thing about trying to make the Riddler pathetic is that it can kind of hurt his credibility as villain. He can still be madman who gets sloppy when things go wrong, and who values his skin over everyone else, and yeah, a “weasel.”

It’s just that it pays to remember that weasels are still carnivorous predators, not scavengers. They’re conniving and deceitful, but like any nasty vermin, backed into a corner, they can bite and claw.

Paul Dini writes my favorite version of the Riddler, even though the bulk of it was during his semi-reformed private eye days; he’s a scumbag, but he’s a scumbag who can grin and bear it under most circumstances when he’s physically outflanked, because he’s planning his way out, and will backtalk and seek to prove his greater intelligence over his adversaries Even in adversity... and oftentimes, *does.*

He’s a guy who has to be faced with a genuinely clever strategy or escape to actually lose his cool - “Riddler’s Reform,” the episode in BTAS Dini Co-wrote, where he seems to almost go straight and sets a trap for Batman he most definitely doesn’t intend to leave any escape in, sees him being a smarmy and smug operator when Batman’s physically confronting him... and only going ballistic and whining when he can’t figure out how Batman escaped.

In contrast, a Riddler I can’t stand would be the one from Jeph Loeb’s work - he always tries to emphasize Riddler as a loser and coward, and even his attempted rebuilding of the character via Hush is ultimately kind of lackluster.

I don’t want a Riddler who gets scared and intimidated by Batman or Falcone, and doesn’t know what the answer to the main mystery is. I want a Riddler who get have his face bloodied after being worked over, yet maintains his position as uncooperative unless they agree to play his game.
 
Hooded figure instead of a suit/tie? Is that what most of us are expecting? From a design perspective i can see why that would be a fresh take, after all the suited villains (plus Cobblepot). I prefer the classier look, but as long as he’s not too nerdy, I can deal with a more low key design.
 
I'm amusing the pics are just placeholders...



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I think it’s real, but the images could be a good indication that Riddler has a hood and Catwoman has a cowl. If they make Nashton a bit grittier in this, hopefully that means they go the opposite for the Joker and give him the classiest suits imaginable.
 
So it's a genuine piece of marketing, but with placeholder images. That sure as **** isn't Pattinson's batsuit.

Curious about the source of that Riddler image though.
 
So it's a genuine piece of marketing, but with placeholder images. That sure as **** isn't Pattinson's batsuit.

Curious about the source of that Riddler image though.

Fan art it would seem just blackened and crudely colored green: I thought the forehead looked familiar and I looked through some of my collection of back issues. It’s Gotham Knights #9, cover illustrated by the great Brian Bolland I do believe.

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oh come on He’s not bad at all. He’s talented and also acted in Game of Thrones

the kind of new fans this movie would gain by casting boldly like this would be immense.

And Craigaat, in no way are these the two worst Eddies. They’re actually really quite talented, sharp and have won fans and awards across the globe. The honor for the worst Eds goes to Eddie Van Halen, Eddie Vedder, and Ed Norton by far.

Plus it would have been such a kick to see an Ed cast as an Ed ie Ed Nygma. The titles for it would have been snappy, sharp, cool and Burtonesque to a degree
I know you did NOT just do Eddie Vedder like that.
 

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