Paul Dano is Edward Nashton aka "The Riddler"

[WatchProtect]

Definitely appreciate them hiding Dano as well.

Makes me wish I wasnt as deeply invested as I am lol

 

[Mindreaper21]

Riddler is using a brick chisel for a weapon…that’s interesting.

Personally I’d want to see him with a meat hook because it’s shaped like a question mark. Maybe at some point he will.

 

[WatchProtect]

I wonder if its just spur of the moment or its his specific tool for all occasions

 

[Mindreaper21]

Maybe spur of the moment. I know Riddler bludgeons Mitchell with a whiskey jar before he tapes his face up.

 

[godisawesome]

I'd wager that much like Seven and other films, Paul Dano will likely be featured in the background of certain early scenes or will bump into one of the characters without them (or most viewers) realizing who he is and that he is the Riddler until it is ultimately revealed. The filmmakers and marketing team should really keep this going up until the very end and the film is released.

That would be awesome, and at minimum, I think they’re playing up the “nobody in particular” idea behind his visual presentation outside his costume.

 

[DKDetective]

That would be awesome, and at minimum, I think they’re playing up the “nobody in particular” idea behind his visual presentation outside his costume.

I find it interesting that they had Dano go back to his dorky bowl cut from his early awkward teen nerd roles like on The Sopranos and in The Girl Next Door. It was not what I was expected, but very awesome nonetheless.

 

[WatchProtect]

Hearing his voice come out of that face is so odd, it really adds too his mystique which im really loving

 

[Mindreaper21]

I find it interesting that they had Dano go back to his dorky bowl cut from his early awkward teen nerd roles like on The Sopranos and in The Girl Next Door. It was not what I was expected, but very awesome nonetheless.

I honestly was annoyed by the bowl cut at first, but then I remembered Bruce’s hair.

 

[JubJub86]

Yeah, Doe doesn't show up until the final act of Se7en in terms of seeing him properly, would be cool with something like that here. Masked Riddler for first half, the broadcasts and taunting, they catch him halfway through and unmask him, but of course he wanted to be caught and after that he's still revelling in his plan unfold from Arkham, mocking Bats during visits etc.

 

[Captain Tired]

I honestly was annoyed by the bowl cut at first, but then I remembered Bruce’s hair.

Dano's cut is a very Mod-ish style, huh. Almost like a moptop.

But anyways, mods suck. The rockers are where it's at.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Yeah, Doe doesn't show up until the final act of Se7en in terms of seeing him properly, would be cool with something like that here. Masked Riddler for first half, the broadcasts and taunting, they catch him halfway through and unmask him, but of course he wanted to be caught and after that he's still revelling in his plan unfold from Arkham, mocking Bats during visits etc.

I have to wonder if we're being mislead with the trailer, and if Riddler turning himself in is something that happens much earlier than the film's plot would suggest? We're assuming this is a big, John Doe reveal, but that would be a really big plot point to spoil in the trailer for the movie. So what if this is something that happens before Batman is even on the scene? What if the Riddler, before going on his killing spree, and interacting with Batman, was caught by the cops a year or two before, and simply put back on the street, without the cops have any idea who this guy really was?

What makes me think this is the fact we see the slow closeup of the cup with the question mark. It acts as a reveal for the audience more than a relevant plot development for the characters, because presumably the audience would know this was the Riddler who was being arrested. So it feels more like ominous foreshadowing, to me.

Another thing, when Riddler is being pulled out of the diner, you hear a cop yell "Get outta here!". That's an odd thing to say to what we're being led to believe is a wanted man. That's more the type of line a cop would yell at someone who was in the way. We're assuming there's some manhunt for him, and this scene is the culmination, but maybe this was a completely separate incident?

We also assume that the Riddler is talking to Batman in the prison scene, but the trailers have been cagey regarding Paul Dano's appearance. Iwonder if we're actually even seeing him behind the screen, and they're simply making it seem like he is for the trailer?

 

[Eddie Dean]

I have to wonder if we're being mislead with the trailer, and if Riddler turning himself in is something that happens much earlier than the film's plot would suggest? We're assuming this is a big, John Doe reveal, but that would be a really big plot point to spoil in the trailer for the movie. So what if this is something that happens before Batman is even on the scene? What if the Riddler, before going on his killing spree, and interacting with Batman, was caught by the cops a year or two before, and simply put back on the street, without the cops have any idea who this guy really was?

What makes me think this is the fact we see the slow closeup of the cup with the question mark. It acts as a reveal for the audience more than a relevant plot development for the characters, because presumably the audience would know this was the Riddler who was being arrested. So it feels more like ominous foreshadowing, to me.

Another thing, when Riddler is being pulled out of the diner, you hear a cop yell "Get outta here!". That's an odd thing to say to what we're being led to believe is a wanted man. That's more the type of line a cop would yell at someone who was in the way. We're assuming there's some manhunt for him, and this scene is the culmination, but maybe this was a completely separate incident?

We also assume that the Riddler is talking to Batman in the prison scene, but the trailers have been cagey regarding Paul Dano's appearance. Iwonder if we're actually even seeing him behind the screen, and they're simply making it seem like he is for the trailer?

Don’t be silly Art. You don’t send a swat team to bring in someone who’s done nothing. You don’t treat them with the hostility they treat him with. And you see his glasses reflections in the glass devide in Arkham

 

[Art Vandelay]

I'm not saying he hasn't done anything to warrant having the cops coming to arrest him in that particular scene, I'm just not sure when in the movie's timeline this scene would appear, and if this is a part of his master plan. I stand by thinking this would be a big plot development to spoil for the audience in the trailer for the movie.

If the Riddler being arrested is him surrendering to the police, then the coffee cup shot is kind of redundant. Because the audience would know that's the Riddler, as would the cops in that scene if they are arresting him. So why is the question mark reveal given so much gravity in this scene? Well, if the cops don't know they're arresting the Riddler, then the audience would know something they don't. So the slow zoom on the cup would make more sense.

I don't know how to square the Riddler being arrested with the other footage we see of him, particularly the shot of Batman pummeling him in the face. This would mean he got away from Batman, or broke out of prison, and later on Batman caught him again.

 

[DKDetective]

Don’t be silly Art. You don’t send a swat team to bring in someone who’s done nothing. You don’t treat them with the hostility they treat him with. And you see his glasses reflections in the glass devide in Arkham

That's not exactly accurate. If he was black for instance...

But Riddler is white so I see your point.

 

[JubJub86]

Yeah, pretty much in the "he'd have had to have done something pretty freakin' severe for the cops to show up with that type of force if it's before they think he's Riddler". Heh.

Guess it's not beyond Reeves to play with expectations, but still - I'd be betting that's mid-movie or something, he's already been on a spree for weeks or months, he's achieved the first part of what he wanted to and now he's intentionally revealing himself & letting them catch him. Of course with more of his scheme unfolding once he's behind bars, only ****ing with people's heads further. But all playing out pretty differently to Joker in interrogation in TDK of course.

Maybe Bats is certain it's him, but the cops are starting to have doubts once he's already locked up and stuff's still going down? Who knows.

Dano's cut is a very Mod-ish style, huh. Almost like a moptop.

But anyways, mods suck. The rockers are where it's at.

Mods & Rockers? How old are you, dude?!

Ahh who am I kidding? *Adjusts leather jacket, slicks back hair, calls someone 'Daddy-O'.*

 

[BatLobster]

I'm not saying he hasn't done anything to warrant having the cops coming to arrest him in that particular scene, I'm just not sure when in the movie's timeline this scene would appear, and if this is a part of his master plan. I stand by thinking this would be a big plot development to spoil for the audience in the trailer for the movie.

To be fair, TDK's marketing was awash with imagery of Joker in the jail cell.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Hearing his voice come out of that face is so odd, it really adds too his mystique which im really loving

Agreed. I feel like Riddlers voice is even deeper than I thought it was gonna be. "I've been trying to reach you" doesn't sound like Dano's voice as much as I thought it was gonna. Sounds even more menacing!

 

[Art Vandelay]

Guess it's not beyond Reeves to play with expectations, but still - I'd be betting that's mid-movie or something, he's already been on a spree for weeks or months, he's achieved the first part of what he wanted to and now he's intentionally revealing himself & letting them catch him. Of course with more of his scheme unfolding once he's behind bars, only ****ing with people's heads further.

The part I'm having trouble with is why he lets himself be captured. I'll admit, the John Doe reference also crossed my mind, but then I remembered the only reason Doe turned himself in was so that Mills would kill him later that evening. He never intended to actually spend a day behind bars. But with Riddler, of what good does it serve him to be arrested? Messing with people's heads doesn't sound like a legitimate answer.

 

[JubJub86]

Could just be his way of getting a face-to-face talk with Bruce, one-on-one opportunity to enlighten him about all the Gotham history shenanigans and how his family name's part of it. Lame as that seems. But I guess if he's already killed all the politician bastards he had his eye on, game's done in that respect, he could be content to just sit back and watch whatever the rest of his handiwork is unfold.

Doesn't seem like much of a guy for self-preservation. Like, he's messing with a guy that's out there brutally beating people every night. And if this corruption stuff is potentially linked to the Court Of Owls in some first-step of bringing all that to light, he must figure they'd want his head too. Might even be some fatalist "Arkham's as safe a place for me as any, for now" thinking. Or simply he's made his point, he doesn't care what happens from there.

 

[Eddie Dean]

The part I'm having trouble with is why he lets himself be captured. I'll admit, the John Doe reference also crossed my mind, but then I remembered the only reason Doe turned himself in was so that Mills would kill him later that evening. He never intended to actually spend a day behind bars. But with Riddler, of what good does it serve him to be arrested? Messing with people's heads doesn't sound like a legitimate answer.

Yeah, why would The Riddler mess with people's heads? That's not his MO at all.

 

[JubJub86]

Probably a bad way of wording it. Just meant, you know, pushing Bruce's buttons, distracting him from whatever play Riddler has coming up, that sort of thing.

 

[PepS]

This isn't a knock on Jonah Hill, but I'm so glad he passed on the role and we got Paul Dano instead. I've thought he'd make a great Riddler even during the Nolan days.

 

[Art Vandelay]

So Riddler turns himself in and faces possibly life in prison just to mess with people's minds?

Good one, Riddler.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Just throwing this out there, but maybe, just maybe, there's something we don't know about that provides context to why Riddler seemingly let himself get caught?

 

[Eddie Dean]

Just throwing this out there, but maybe, just maybe, there's something we don't know about that provides context to why Riddler seemingly let himself get caught?

No way, it can't be.