The Amazing Spider-Man Peter and the fly

[Billy the Poet]

it does seem like they are trying to gross us out a little. in raimi's movie after getting bitten peter is looking in the mirror going 'YES!' but in webbs movie after getting bitten peter is looking in the mirror and pulling out a web out out of his NECK and his face is grossed out like, 'THE HELL?! and then the classic fly scene where peter looks totally out of it.

man, I need to see this movie NOW!!

Good point here. If in Raimi's Peter had immediate transformation and it was a positive process for him, Webb shows Peter's transition as progressing and uncomfortable for Peter to deal with.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Apologies if this has been discussed somewhere... but I cant seem to find where it HAS been discussed. Please merge if necessary.

What is with the scene in the teaser when Parker is in kind of a trance when he has the fly in his hand...he looks like he's about to eat it! ....Before Aunt May snaps him out of it.

Okay, are they trying to do some kind of cross over between Seth Brundle in The Fly??? Because what with the spider bite in his neck ... (Im guessing some spider blood, venom or saliva) has made it's way to Peter's spinal cord? Thus affecting his central and peripheral nervous system? Its a good angle.

But is THAT what they are trying to do? Make Peter literally more "spider" than man? It just seems weird. Why then are you going for mechs over organic web shooters? Surely the organics would be a fit if you're going down the becoming half an organic spider route. (Although I have always been for the mechanics)

What I DO think is pretty cool is a hunch of mine, upon seeing the teaser, that Dr Connors may be indirectly part responsible for the spider transformation .... isn't it in Connors lab that Peter gets bitten? Possibly.

Along with working on Lizards, possibly Connors is also looking at other species and their regenerational (is that a word?) capacities to find the best biological model to base his arm re-growth on ....or perhaps modifying species via genetic modification or radioactivity (cough cough such as particular spiders cough cough) to see how this would affect their abilities to regenerate certain body parts .... I dunno.

But looking good so far.

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I think it's more that he's shock by his sudden enhance reflex when catching the fly. That's just one of many scenes, I'm sure, of him discovering his new abilities.

As far as the neck bite, not only does it differenciate from Raimi's version(bite to the wrist/organic); but, as you have said, closer to the spinal cord where the central nervous chord runs, better explains his heighten senses, reflexes, strength, agility, and ability....while not going as far as his body actually producing organic webbing. Just enhancing his abilities; not producing organic compounds.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

Well I always thought Peter going through the changes after being bit by the spider was a metaphor for puberty and that was not always comfortable lol. Anyway it's the spider sense and reflexes. Like someone said, catching a fly is simple but to catch it between your index finger and thumb AND not kill it in the process? That's incredible

 

[Billy the Poet]

I'm sure while making the movie they were influenced by Franz Kafka's The Metmorphosis, the story about a man's transformation into a big ugly spider. It's one of my favorite works by Kafka.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Not sure if serious.


It's amazing how such a small thing can turn into such a huge discussion. Man, do I love movie hype.


I think it's pretty obvious like many have stated that this Peter's discovery of his reflexes. As someone said, the fact that he grabbed a fly out of mid-air in between his thumb and finger without damaging it is otherworldly. Carry on now.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I'm sure while making the movie they were influenced by Franz Kafka's The Metmorphosis, the story about a man's transformation into a big ugly spider. It's one of my favorite works by Kafka.

Inspiration of an episode of Supernatural

 

[Nemi]

Inspiration of an episode of Supernatural

I'm gonna need to read that then.

 

[Billy the Poet]

Inspiration of an episode of Supernatural

Never got to watch the show? Is it any good? And what episode was that?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Spider-Man will not be some crazy mutant who literally transforms (partly) into a spider. That scene was to demonstrate his reflexes, and some form of (I'm hoping) his spider sense.

It'd be awesome if the spider sense was like a slowed down perception of time, he's in normal speed, everyone else is super slow. But to everybody else, Spidey looks super fast.

The spider sense in the Raimi movies was like that, but apart from the one scene we got in the first movie, we only really heard it as that bell going off.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Slowed down time is good enough for fast reflexes but you need an added effect for the spider-sense.

 

[Spiderman6592]

They probably won't do this, but I think a cool effect for spider sense would be to use a technique where Spidey could have a bit of an out of body experience where he sees himself reacting to the danger seconds into the future and he kind of follows his future self almost like a shadow until it catches up to real time. It's complex but it could be a pretty cool effect.

 

[Oscorp]

Slowed down time is good enough for fast reflexes but you need an added effect for the spider-sense.

This! Sometimes it seems people mix up Spider-Man's super reflexes with his spider sense.

 

[Spiderman6592]

I liked my idea

 

[Oscorp]

You mean kinda like what Spidey does in those Edge of Time vids?

 

[Anno_Domini]

I'm gonna need to read that then.

The "Metamorphosis" episode in season four. Isn't a fly in the episode, lol, but the inspiration is clearly there.

Never got to watch the show? Is it any good? And what episode was that?

THE best show on broadcast television. It sucks because it doesn't get as much accolades as it did when it first aired in '05, but it's still at the top of its game, imo. Besides Supernatural and Craig Ferguson, I don't think I would even care about broadcast television and just live on cable.

The episode is simply called "Metamorphosis" and the inspiration there lies in an everyday guy turning into a monster called a Rugaru. Isn't a fly, but it as been brought up as an inspiration from the writers of the episode. And the whole series, or at least the first five seasons dealt with an upcoming Apocalypse with Azazel, the Yellow-Eyed Demon looking for a "special child" to open up a Hell's Gate to free another demon, Lilith and that started a journey with breaking 66 Seals to unleash Lucifer. The whole Apocalypse angle has ended though, and now Supernatural relies on a post-Apocalypse world. The coming season will deal with an ally of theirs, Castiel, who's an angel, who has become a God of sorts after devouring the souls from Purgatory.

 

[Troy_Parker]

They probably won't do this, but I think a cool effect for spider sense would be to use a technique where Spidey could have a bit of an out of body experience where he sees himself reacting to the danger seconds into the future and he kind of follows his future self almost like a shadow until it catches up to real time. It's complex but it could be a pretty cool effect.

This reminds me of a scene in Prince of Persia: Sands of Time.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Never seen it. Is that a bad thing?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Not really bad. Just reminded me of it. It was a cool effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Ov2xnatXs

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Not really bad. Just reminded me of it. It was a cool effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Ov2xnatXs

Interesting.

But taking that effect now would be stealing.

 

[Troy_Parker]

How about we just stick to a really fast Spidey?

Would slowed down time be enough to pass off as Spider sense? It was really well done in Raimi's Spider-Man. Time is slowed down enough for Peter to analyse all possible threats.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Would slowed down time be enough to pass off as Spider sense? It was really well done in Raimi's Spider-Man. Time is slowed down enough for Peter to analyse all possible threats.

I really think so. I can't think of another way of it being shown in a film other than the way Raimi did it.

 

[Troy_Parker]

^Exactly. It can't really be done any other way except for that or adding a cheesy effect like having the dangers flash or something.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

How about we just stick to a really fast Spidey?

Would slowed down time be enough to pass off as Spider sense? It was really well done in Raimi's Spider-Man. Time is slowed down enough for Peter to analyse all possible threats.

Slow mo indicates faster reflexes but the spider-sense is a form of ESP.

If there's a hidden bomb, the spider-sense will alert Parker. How would you show that using slo mo?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

^Exactly. It can't really be done any other way except for that or adding a cheesy effect like having the dangers flash or something.

There are hundreds of ways to show the spider-sense. It just requires knowledge of effects and an imagination.

 

[Troy_Parker]

^Could you suggest some?

No "flashing" or anything like that. lol.