Originally posted by GammaBeast
MFM if you're not actually going to debate then stay out of the debate. You could have alteast offered some proof.
Proof? I can't give you "proof", since that fight never happen.
But, if you want, check out this board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000113&topic=15508937
There are actually a more interesting discussions back then (and they explicitly mention SSJ4 Goku in their discussions), but those topics are closed now, and this one is the only one left at that site (and they didn't mention SSJ4 Goku explicitly this time).
Hurry up though, topics like this are usually closed early because those people there are tired of repeatingly answering some DB fanboys (who overpowered Goku, claiming that he can do things that he never able to do) or just plain Superman haters (ignoring the facts of what Superman is capable of).
But, most of them (including DB fans, the reasonable ones) backed up their opinions with reasonable explainations (though some of them are actually being sarcastic because these kinds of topic keep popping up every now and then eventhough they've already make it clear who the victor is) and agreed that Superman can beat (or at least, have the chance of beating) any Goku, including SSJ4 Goku.
Oh, and did I mention, that topic was actually in a Dragon Ball forum?