Prometheus - Part 5

[Viscal]

Prometheus Exclusive in new EMPIRE Magazine!
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/410

 

[nouan]

So this being in the "same universe" as the Alien movies means that this is a straight prequel to the first? Meaning this is what happens before the events of the Alien?
It just sucks that it makes the first movie look very dated, because they don't have flat screens with flashy animations and what have you in the consoles. How do they explain the lesser technology of Alien, which is suppose to happen in the future of this movie?

 

[The Morningstar]

That the ship in Alien was basically an 18 wheeler in spaceship form, a dirty, grubby mining vessel that is probably mass produced in a factory. Alien was a used future. In Prometheus all the tech is brand new, unused. And the ship itself is a first of it's kind, high tech science vessel.

Of course there is always going to be bits here and there that are off, like the screens and graphics displays.

But look at it like this. Some cars still have those crappy, cheap looking plastic dials. Some cars, like your new BMWs have actual HUDs on the windscreen.

And overall, the design of the ships interior, besides the screens, are pretty similar. Like the corridors and seats etc.

 

[Still Wynning]

Eh, I'm pretty much already accepting that this is gonna be PG-13.

Knowing Ridley Scott, though, he's probably going to push that PG-13 rating farther than it's ever gone before.

It will probably end up being a very hard PG-13, maybe even just slightly below an R. I take it that's probably what he meant by "kinda R".

 

[Viscal]

Even better EMPIRE scans now available
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/410

Also Prometheus FILM INK full article here
http://www.PrometheusNews.net/movie/film-ink

 

[nouan]

Yeah, okay, I guess you have to go with that mindset to make this flow with Alien. Besides the Nostromo crew were more of a space truck drivers, so maybe that's another reason they had ****tier tech in their "truck" ship.

 

[cherokeesam]

Yeah, okay, I guess you have to go with that mindset to make this flow with Alien. Besides the Nostromo crew were more of a space truck drivers, so maybe that's another reason they had ****tier tech in their "truck" ship.

Although you gotta admit giving them mid-to-late 20th century computer hardware and software is a bit extreme, for 2080....t: Hell, even the lowliest third-world rat-trap in 2012 doesn't still use Commodore 64s

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Even better EMPIRE scans now available
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/410

Also Prometheus FILM INK full article here
http://www.PrometheusNews.net/movie/film-ink

Thank you so much!

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea thanks a lot for those scans. Really insightful. I loved this particular bit.

Empire: Do you believe in visitation?
Scott: I think it's entirely logical. The idea that we've been here three billion years and nothing happened until 75,000 years ago is absolute nonsense.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Charlize was not impressed with the on-set hairdryers!

 

[The Morningstar]

Also this from Theron

She's been smoking a double and I got the munchies

WTF? Theron is a stoner? And i didn't think i could love her anymore than i already do!

 

[Boom]

The Empire article has officially made the two-month wait completely unbearable.

 

[Kane52630]

Michael Fassbender and Charlize Theron on Prometheus plot

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/03/20/prometheus-michael-fassbender-is-a-butler-in-space/

 

[Destructus86]

That the ship in Alien was basically an 18 wheeler in spaceship form, a dirty, grubby mining vessel that is probably mass produced in a factory. Alien was a used future. In Prometheus all the tech is brand new, unused. And the ship itself is a first of it's kind, high tech science vessel.

Of course there is always going to be bits here and there that are off, like the screens and graphics displays.

But look at it like this. Some cars still have those crappy, cheap looking plastic dials. Some cars, like your new BMWs have actual HUDs on the windscreen.

And overall, the design of the ships interior, besides the screens, are pretty similar. Like the corridors and seats etc.

Well said. I agree.

 

[Boom]

So what theories are we running with in regards to

Spoiler

Peter Weyland? He'd be in his 100's during the film's timeline, wouldn't he?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I think someone mentioned an [BLACKOUT]Android with Weyland's brain patterns[/BLACKOUT].

 

[The Morningstar]

The Empire article has officially made the two-month wait completely unbearable.

Pretty much. I don't think i've ever been this hyped for a film. Ever.

So what theories are we running with in regards to

Spoiler

Peter Weyland? He'd be in his 100's during the film's timeline, wouldn't he?

I imagine cryogenic suspension of some kind.

 

[The Morningstar]

Michael Fassbender and Charlize Theron on Prometheus plot

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/03/20/prometheus-michael-fassbender-is-a-butler-in-space/

How does Fassbender know what she does when she first gets up in the morning? All these interviews i see of those two, with little innuendo's...

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Hey, Alien 3's on tonight! Hmmm... Dunno whether to watch it or not.
Im in a constant state of Opinion-Limbo about that movie. Sometimes I think it's a horrendous waste of potential and other times I consider it an under-rated masterpiece... could never settle on a concrete feeling on it.
Weird, I know.

 

[The Morningstar]

I like Alien 3. I really like the "assembly cut" or whatever they call it. But yea, it was wasted potential for such a great concept. It could have, should have been so much better.

 

[Destructus86]

Hey, Alien 3's on tonight! Hmmm... Dunno whether to watch it or not.
Im in a constant state of Opinion-Limbo about that movie. Sometimes I think it's a horrendous waste of potential and other times I consider it an under-rated masterpiece... could never settle on a concrete feeling on it.
Weird, I know.

It is an interesting love/hate relationship.

 

[chamber-music]

The Nostromo didn't look like a new ship either. Prometheus takes 30 years before Alien and the Nostromo could be as old or even older than the Prometheus ship which is state of the art as its directly funded Science mission by Weyland.

I imagine Fifields gonna be the 'I'm to old for this s***' guy. Good to know future Geologists rock red mohawks and facial tattoos.

 

[Kane52630]

How does Fassbender know what she does when she first gets up in the morning? All these interviews i see of those two, with little innuendo's...

I've been saying since the start, they be ****ing.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Yeah, the assembly cut is better, no doubt. Everytime I see Alien 3 I cant help but be reminded of the Vincent Ward "Wooden Monastery" idea for it. That, IMO, is the film they shoulda made.

Spoiler

The story by Vincent Ward and the screenplay with co-writer John Fasano had Ripley's escape pod crash landing on a monastery-like satellite, which had parts of its interior, both, wooden and archaic in design. The Alien 3 special features disc set, Alien Quadrilogy[12] explains how Ward came about creating the story for this partially wooden satellite also as a place of refuge for Luddite-like monks.
The story begins with a monk who sees a "star in the East” (Ripley's escape pod)[13] and at first believes this to be a good sign. Upon arrival of Ripley, and with increasing suggestions of the Alien presence, the monk inhabitants believe it to be some sort of religious trial for their misdemeanors, punishable by the creature that haunts them. By having a woman in their monastery, they wonder if their trial is partially caused by sexual temptation, as Ripley is the only woman to be amongst an all male community in ten years. To avoid this and (hopefully) the much grimmer reality of what she has brought with her, the Monks of the "wooden satellite" lock Ripley into a dungeon-like sewer and ignore her advice on the true nature of the beast.[14] The monks believe that the Alien is in fact the Devil.[15]
Primarily though, this story was about Ripley's own soul searching complicated by the seeding of the Alien within her and further hampered her largely solo attempts to defeat it. The Alien Quadrilogy DVD set features scenes and illustrations that show this ‘Wooden Planet’. Aspects of the monastery and monks of these drafts were later utilised in the final production of the film by having the male inmates participating in an apocalyptic religion that forbade sexual relations. Primarily it was the plot of Alien 3 that was borrowed from this story but little of this world remained in the film. Despite his credit, Ward noted that the things he liked best about the story and those that he believed would have made it work were not used. The screenplay featured scenes set in different locations on the one-mile (1.6 km) wide wooden planetoid, ranging from wheat fields, through a grisly but darkly comic scene in the monks’ communal toilets, to furnaces and a glass works (also used in the finished film).
Empire magazine described Ward’s ‘Wooden Planet’ concept as ‘undeniably attractive – it would have been visually arresting and at the very least, could have made for some astonishing action sequences. In the same article, Norman Reynolds - Production Designer originally hired by Ward - remembers an early design idea for “a wooden library shaft. You looked at the books on this wooden platform that went up and down”. ‘Imagine the kind of vertical jeopardy sequence that could have been staged here – the Alien clambering up these impossibly high bookshelves as desperate monks work the platform’.[16]:156 Sigourney Weaver described Ward’s overall concept as “very original and arresting.”[16]:153 Former Times journalist David Hughes included Ward’s version of Alien 3 amongst ‘The Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made’[17] in his book of this title. Since Ward’s vision for the film was never borne out into the arena of public scrutiny, this is obviously reserved for those who have taken a particular interest in the Alien project. However, Ward’s proposed version of Alien 3 has gained a certain following with the 2009 article in Empire Magazine[16] and an extensive section dedicated to Ward’s vision in the Alien Quadrilogy box set.

 

[chamber-music]

Hey, Alien 3's on tonight! Hmmm... Dunno whether to watch it or not.
Im in a constant state of Opinion-Limbo about that movie. Sometimes I think it's a horrendous waste of potential and other times I consider it an under-rated masterpiece... could never settle on a concrete feeling on it.
Weird, I know.

They have been showing all the Alien films (one each wednesday on E4 other the past few weeks)