Pyro vs Iceman: Why Pyro should have won

[Retroman]

I wish Iceman would ice slide after headbutting Pyro.

 

[LEX]

Don't we all?

I'd rather Iceman ice-sliding down the X-jet as Kitty phases herself alone into the ground.

 

[Retroman]

Don't we all?

I'd rather Iceman ice-sliding down the X-jet as Kitty phases herself alone into the ground.

That would have been great too.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Give it up, Iceman should've got his cheating ass kicked. If not by Pyro, then by Rogue.

I wish at the end she would've came back and had really not taken the cure and then let him sleep with her and he would die as soon as he tried to stick it in.

One item would have solved their tumultuous problem:

CONDOM...

As for getting his ass owned by Pyro, that wouldn't have happened. And yeah, Iceman did look a little whimpy when he started to remove his gloves, but I'm sure he could be a worthy adversary if pushed hard enough. The applications for water and ice are far greater than fire.

 

[Image]

callisto mentioned that magneto and pyro where above a class 3, so does this mean iceman is also above a 3. and just beat him out of more will power.

Well Iceman is an Omega, which would mean he is stronger than Professor X and Magneto, if he believed in himself to be powerful. So he would def. beat Pyro. Now him being that strong in the movie, I don't think he reached that reached the potential, but of course he would still be stronger than Pyro out of the two, especially if he knows what he is doing and how he does it.

 

[iceberg325]

Well Iceman is an Omega, which would mean he is stronger than Professor X and Magneto, if he believed in himself to be powerful. So he would def. beat Pyro. Now him being that strong this in the movie, I don't think he reached that reached the potential, but of course he would still be stronger than Pyro out of the two, especially if he knows what he is doing and how he does it.

Iceman is the man. I like him more in the comics/cartoon than in the movies, but he is one of my favorite characters. I think he would easily beat pyro.

 

[AVP82]

I remember Iceman beating Firestar from that old Spiderman series. It seems like he does well against fire.

 

[javon]

Everyone knows that iceman is Omega. And won't the writers know that people will start doubting iceman being omega since they said Jean was the only level 5 (ehich is omega in this movie)? I don't think they look at the comics much or they would be smart enough to know people will start thinking Level 5's are omega (which I do) and that Jean is the only one (which i don't).

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Everyone knows that iceman is Omega. And won't the writers know that people will start doubting iceman being omega since they said Jean was the only level 5 (ehich is omega in this movie)? I don't think they look at the comics much or they would be smart enough to know people will start thinking Level 5's are omega (which I do) and that Jean is the only one (which i don't).

That image of Iceman will be changing in the near future with Carey's run (in the comics). He's mentioned that he's going to be doing some great stuff with Iceman and his abilities. He already knows that Iceman fans are craving more out of him, and that we're tired of him being a class clown. Carey is going to make him more serious, and more combat effective in the field, rather than being knocked out by a villain with the first blow (like so many times in the past).... So we'll see... We'll see.

 

[javon]

What about Strom?!!!!

 

[ProfeZZor X]

What about Strom?!!!!

She'll soon be at home washing dishes, doing laundry, making dinner, and being a soccer mom... and creating the occasional rain storm to water her herb garden in the backyard.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Damn rushed effects.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Does anyone know the projected DVD release date?.... I wanna see Iceman icing up in slow-mo... over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.... oh yeah, and see him OWN Pyro in the process.

 

[XFanTim]

Oh plus Fire Melts Ice....I've never seen Ice Repel Fire before. But that's not my Argument.

Yeah but an ice cube isn't self cooling. In other words you provide enough heat and it's going to melt. (Whereas a fire is continually producing heat so long as it has fuel to burn.)

Iceman actually produces cold (or removes heat, if you want to get technical). He's more like the world's most powerful refrigeration unit than he is like a block of ice. So as long as he's powerful enough to take away heat faster than Pyro's flames can provide it, he can win this fight.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the makers of the film saying he's that powerful.

 

[jmao]

i thought the pyro vs iceman bit was pretty lame... they just kept shooting fire and ice... like a bad episode of dragon ball z... there shouldve been more action/movement

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Yeah but an ice cube isn't self cooling. In other words you provide enough heat and it's going to melt. (Whereas a fire is continually producing heat so long as it has fuel to burn.).

Iceman's power is to generate cold, so he IS self cooling. Just like when you see cool air coming off of an ice cube. Or when you see condensation on the outside of a glass filled with liquid and ice cubes. It still generates cold.

Iceman actually produces cold (or removes heat, if you want to get technical). He's more like the world's most powerful refrigeration unit than he is like a block of ice. So as long as he's powerful enough to take away heat faster than Pyro's flames can provide it, he can win this fight..

He generated enough cold fast enough to stop Pyro. .. That should be enough.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the makers of the film saying he's that powerful.

Actually, I don't recall them saying that at all. Do you have the article on that?

 

[Drago]

Besides, if you really want to settle this argument without going in depth regarding Iceman's power control, you only need bring one example to mind--Iceman is capable of controlling the water molecules within a person's body. For instance, he froze Legion (Xavier's son) solid without so much as lifting a finger . . . he essentially froze him from the inside out. Pyro would have a hell of a time scurrying out of that.

I don't know if anyone else noticed or not, but atleast in the films (I don't know about the comics, don't read them), Iceman needs to be touching whatever it is to freeze it (X1 Rose, X2 Ice Wall had ice traveling from his hand on the wall all the way between Logan and Stryker, X3 Skating Pond, etc.). There are a few exceptions you could try to bring up to this- freezing Pyro's fireball in X1, X2's cool soda or putting the museum fire out, etc.- but even in these cases, he makes the Ice travel through the air to the object (or freezes the air he's in contact with, however you want to look at it)- it's always in physical contact with him.

Pyro can control any flame under any circumstances, regardless of space, Iceman in the movies can't. That wasn't taken too deeply into account for the Pyro vs. Iceman standoff, but maybe it will be in the future because it evens them out more.

And I'm sticking with being content that Pyro lost. Even though I love Pyro and think Stanford has immense talent, I still think it puts him on track to be a very violent, evil, (but tragic) villian in the future.

 

[xwolverine2]

i thought the pyro vs iceman bit was pretty lame... they just kept shooting fire and ice... like a bad episode of dragon ball z... there shouldve been more action/movement

bad episode of dbz?..... IMPOSSIBLE!

 

[TNC9852002]

While under Iceman's protective form, it gave me the impression that Bobby could potentially withstand any kind of fire that Pyro threw at him,..Technially, Bobby would've had to absorb alot of heat to get into his ice form anyway...

-TNC

 

[britrogue]

Pyro should have won because he's hot! LOL

 

[Angelus7181]

Believe it or not Iceman can use fire to build energy.. so basicly Pyro was fueling him rather then defeating him. While Pyro was engulfing Iceman with flames Iceman was harnessing it's energy which lead him to completely iceup. Once in this form Iceman's powers are greatly enhanced.. Pyro didn't stand a chance.

 

[javon]

Pyro should have won because he's hot! LOL

Please tell me your a girl.

 

[LEX]

Please tell me your a girl.

So, what if he's a guy? That's a bit offensive.

 

[November Rain]

pyro's far more advanced with his abilities than bobby who showed really no imagination with his powers since his very first scene where he makes an ice rose for rogue.

the rest of his power outings have been less than spectucular.

pyro should have wiped his ass with bobby...

but the fight was incredibly unintelligent considering they both would have had acess to the danger room simulations.

 

[Ebil Gig]

Britrogue is a girl.