Racism...

[lazur]

Racism is just another form of self-destruction, something the human "race" has always been too good at.

 

[Jerry]

It will never happen. Never. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, NOT NOW, NOT EVER. Blind Fury when will you understand the futility in your argument?Theres the way it should be, and the way it is. This is not one of those cases. This is the way it should be. Nothing anyone will ever say will ever change that.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Race doesn't exist as a scientific concept. It was born of the archaic notion that the physical characterisitc of skin is linked to moral and mental capacity. One of the key books that created modern racial labels was a book called "The Natural System" by Charles Linnaeus. The book has been exposed and panned for centuries by the scientific community at large.

Race does exist in the social sense because of the historical baggage. I hope we as humans are moving away from it since it's done nothing but create misunderstanding and bloodshed. Personally, I hate to even mark a race box on an official form. It doesn't define me. As a certain super hero once said : it's what I do that defines me.

 

[Jerry]

As a certain super hero once said : it's what I do that defines me.

Oh shut the **** up. Batman isn't real.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Oh shut the **** up. Batman isn't real.

He's just as real as the idea that the 6 genes that determine skin pigmentation also determine one's destiny.

 

[blind_fury]

It will never happen. Never. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, NOT NOW, NOT EVER. Blind Fury when will you understand the futility in your argument?Theres the way it should be, and the way it is. This is not one of those cases. This is the way it should be. Nothing anyone will ever say will ever change that.

It's a hypothetical argument.

 

[XwolverineX]

I'm tired of people pmsing over racism. I have to watch everything I say because someone is going to think it's racist. Black's are more athletic, I think white women more attractive.


Omg!

 

[Darthphere]

White men cant jump.

 

[Hotwire]

Blind Fury,
You need to ease up on the anti-white racism! There are two ways to approach any problem, one just whine about how unfair it is, and two, pick your own ass up and do something. You make the arguement that all blacks in America are owed money for slavery. Well, my family never owned any slaves so, with your logic, I don't owe you a dime! Stop asking me for a hand out. Another big problem with your arguement is that you make it seem that reperations are he only way that blacks in America will ever get ahead. This is ridiculous. There are far too many African-Americans who have become successful without ever getting one cent in the name of slavery. Get off your ass, get an education, get a job, and contribute to society. And that is judging you on the content of your character, what little character I've seen from you.

 

[Hotwire]

White men cant jump.

This is true. I can't jump to save my life. I can't dance either.

 

[Darthphere]

I can dance like a madman. K-Fed lost to me in a Dance Off.

 

[War Lord]

Just thinking about it is silly.

Am I wrong in thinking that at the root of racism is having a dislike for people for where they are from? Isn't it because of they time that a particular group of people has spent in a certain land caused their bodies to adapt to that land? Is not this the reason that African people are black, that Asian people are normally short to a lot of other races? Can't all physical qualities of a race, be explained through adapting to the land they from?

So at it's root, racism is having a dislike for people for where they are from. What is the difference in this, and say Northern people from the U.S. sterotyping Southern people because where they are from?

I'm not anthropologist, so if someone is, or can correct me, please do.

There would be several reasons why a group of people would eventually physically distinguish themselves from other people.

1. Environmental - how much sun, rain, food availablity, and other reasons.
2. Societal values - what the society values most would affect people, whether it be physical attributes, intellectual attributes, or other qualities.
3. Genetic availablity - you're not going to get a bunch of skinny people from fat people, generally speaking.

 

[War Lord]

Why not? Just pretend those slaves were paid and bought property with the riches that come from working minimum wage 18 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year (slaves didn't get vacations) from childhood to death. What happens to property when a person dies??? Say it with me! 90 percent of the time it's passed down to the next generation! Now your getting it!

Now what's so wrong with giving the slaves descendents property value they wouldve recieved anyway IF IF IF IF the government did the right thing? BLACK ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY POOR!!!! That's not justice and the government is in a position to right a wrong. WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR??? GOD TO COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND SAY, "ya know it's the least you can do for their childrens children considering the whole 400 years you exploited and cheated them".

The truth is if I was a slave and the government said to me " ya know because of technical difficulties we can't pay now but we might be able to pay your great great grandchildren" I would be say, "please do that, please don't cheat my family forever."

I love it when Blind Fury allows me to have some fun.

It doesn't matter if money is given to you or not, because the problem really isn't a lack of money. It's societal. You change the values that are practiced within your society, and money will seemingly fall out of the sky and over flow your coffers.

Proof of this is the fact that many people, through hard work, dedication, and education, go from being impoverished to large houses and a good lifestyle.

Another proof that simply giving money doesn't work is that, in Canada, the government gives more than $7 billion a year to natives, which works out to be more than $40 grand a year to each person and natives are still among the poorest in the country. They are given free education, free medical, and everything you can effectively think of and they are still dirt poor. The government could double this amount and have the same effect, because it's not a matter of money, but societal values.

Another proof of this is a country like Japan, which doesn't have many resources, but is still one of the richest countries in the world. If wealth building really amounted to just having resources, Japan would be one of the poorest and not among the richest. They are wealthy because of their beliefs, values, and thinking patterns.

Blind Fury, if you really want to improve the lot of blacks, you need to change the way many of them think, because their situation is only a consequence of their thinking patterns. You can start with stop asking for a hand-out and getting your butt in gear and show your community what can be accomplished through hard work, education, and pride.

 

[Darthphere]

Another thing with inheritance money is, its safe to assume that if slaves were actually paid, and gave money through inheritance, that by the time it gets to you, that money wouldve been spent at least 3 generations before you were ever even born.

And, seriously, I wish i was one of these people who inherits money, it aint ever gonna happen.

 

[blind_fury]

Blind Fury,
You need to ease up on the anti-white racism! There are two ways to approach any problem, one just whine about how unfair it is, and two, pick your own ass up and do something. You make the arguement that all blacks in America are owed money for slavery. Well, my family never owned any slaves so, with your logic, I don't owe you a dime! Stop asking me for a hand out. Another big problem with your arguement is that you make it seem that reperations are he only way that blacks in America will ever get ahead. This is ridiculous. There are far too many African-Americans who have become successful without ever getting one cent in the name of slavery. Get off your ass, get an education, get a job, and contribute to society. And that is judging you on the content of your character, what little character I've seen from you.

It must be nice to pretend slaves and their descendents didn't get shafted by the US government. I guess it would be cool if whites for the next 400 years were prevented by the US government to be paid for work or own property. 400 years of whites working night and day from childhood to the grave for nothing. Meanwhile the government gets rich and powerful.

Now here's the kicker after whites have been exploited for hundreds of years their great great great grandchildren still get nothing. Then rich black people can laugh in those disenfranchised white people's face and say "stop crying. get a job!" lolz!

There's really no excuse why the richest country in the world that spend billions every week building Iraq never give blacks their 40 acres and mule. I don't want a paycheck but there's no excuse why the government can't do more for black children. The legacy of injustice continues.

 

[Erzengel]

So an Italian, a Mexican and a Pollock are in a boat......

 

[Darthphere]

It must be nice to pretend slaves and their descendents didn't get shafted by the US government. I guess it would be cool if whites for the next 400 years were prevented by the US government to be paid for work or own property. 400 years of whites working night and day from childhood to the grave for nothing. Meanwhile the government gets rich and powerful.

Now here's the kicker after whites have been exploited for hundreds of years their great great great grandchildren still get nothing. Then rich black people can laugh in those disenfranchised white people's face and say "stop crying. get a job!" lolz!

There's really no excuse why the richest country in the world that spend billions every week building Iraq never give blacks their 40 acres and mule. I don't want a paycheck but there's no excuse why the government can't do more for black children. The legacy of injustice continues.

Do you have a job? Do you worK? No. So what have you done, personally to make the lives of your family and the black community better? Nothing. You dont deserve a dime kid. Because unlike you, your ancestors worked their asses off, were treated unfairly, and were treated like dirt. You, have nothing to complain about, nothing. You have all the opportunities in the world at your fingertips, but youre not going to get ****, sitting at home crying about getting whats owed to you. Youre owed NOTHING. I dont expect my grandfather to go to wrok and them to send me the paycheck. Thas stupid and illogical. So instead of whining and being an ass about it, get off your fatass and get working and maybe youll be able to do something with your life.

 

[Erzengel]

I'm just curious how reparations would be given out.

Obviously, you can't just go to whatever formed Bureau and say, I'm a descendent gimme.

The amount of money to be spent on research on a case by case basis would be extraordinary.

 

[Darthphere]

I'm just curious how reparations would be given out.

Obviously, you can't just go to whatever formed Bureau and say, I'm a descendent gimme.

The amount of money to be spent on research on a case by case basis would be extraordinary.

And another thing, if you were able to track down your ancestors, do descendants of house slaves get less than cotton picking slaves. Historically, house slaves were always siad to be treated better and were looked down upon their other slave bretheren.

 

[blind_fury]

I love it when Blind Fury allows me to have some fun.

It doesn't matter if money is given to you or not, because the problem really isn't a lack of money. It's societal. You change the values that are practiced within your society, and money will seemingly fall out of the sky and over flow your coffers.

Proof of this is the fact that many people, through hard work, dedication, and education, go from being impoverished to large houses and a good lifestyle.

Another proof that simply giving money doesn't work is that, in Canada, the government gives more than $7 billion a year to natives, which works out to be more than $40 grand a year to each person and natives are still among the poorest in the country. They are given free education, free medical, and everything you can effectively think of and they are still dirt poor. The government could double this amount and have the same effect, because it's not a matter of money, but societal values.

Another proof of this is a country like Japan, which doesn't have many resources, but is still one of the richest countries in the world. If wealth building really amounted to just having resources, Japan would be one of the poorest and not among the richest. They are wealthy because of their beliefs, values, and thinking patterns.

Blind Fury, if you really want to improve the lot of blacks, you need to change the way many of them think, because their situation is only a consequence of their thinking patterns. You can start with stop asking for a hand-out and getting your butt in gear and show your community what can be accomplished through hard work, education, and pride.

Jews have been known to be very ambitious and have very good work ethics that didn't mean they gave up on reclaiming what the nazis stole from them. That's because they're not idiots. They said why should we let the poeple who tried to destroy us keep our inheritance? That would be ******ed.

Everybody know blacks worked without pay for hundreds of years. Everybody knows blacks never recieved the wealth our forfathers deserved. Everbody knows it but would rather spend billions rebuilding Iraq than enhancing the education of black children. All because America hasn't changed. Back then it was the slave trade, now it's the oil trade.

You want blacks to be more responsible but the government is teaching us to cheat and steal. It's teaching us to exploit and lie. America should take responsibility for the past and give blacks their inheritance. Doing so gives blacks a reason to work like slaves again. Because it will be understood that such work will pays off eventually.

 

[Erzengel]

You want blacks to be more responsible but the government is teaching us to cheat and steal. It's teaching us to exploit and lie. America should take responsibility for the past and give blacks their inheritance. Doing so gives blacks a reason to work like slaves again. Because it will be understood that such work will pays off eventually.

Yeah I wasn't allowed in that class in high school. Was there an Advanced Placement version of this class which gave credits towards college?

 

[blind_fury]

Do you have a job? Do you worK? No. So what have you done, personally to make the lives of your family and the black community better? Nothing. You dont deserve a dime kid. Because unlike you, your ancestors worked their asses off, were treated unfairly, and were treated like dirt. You, have nothing to complain about, nothing. You have all the opportunities in the world at your fingertips, but youre not going to get ****, sitting at home crying about getting whats owed to you. Youre owed NOTHING. I dont expect my grandfather to go to wrok and them to send me the paycheck. Thas stupid and illogical. So instead of whining and being an ass about it, get off your fatass and get working and maybe youll be able to do something with your life.

Yeah yeah. Forget about injustice and go back to work. What's this? 1825?

The truth is if my forefathers had a choice they wouldn't have bled, sweat, and cried sacrificing everything for nothing but the fact remains they did and America benefitied immensely. You call it "whining" but staying silent while America continues to withheld funds from our people would ultimately be more shameful.

I do what my forefathers couldn't do without being whipped and flogged. I relax and enjoy myself. I'm not even trying to get reparations so I can buy a hummer. I'm doing it so millions of black children can get a better education. That's probably what those unfortunate slaves wouldve wanted. Not for me to shut up and work like they did at gunpoint.

 

[blind_fury]

I'm just curious how reparations would be given out.

Obviously, you can't just go to whatever formed Bureau and say, I'm a descendent gimme.

The amount of money to be spent on research on a case by case basis would be extraordinary.

Since all blacks were eligible to be slaves back then all blacks would be eligible for benefits today. And reparations would be given to ambitious school children in the form of school vouchers.

 

[Erzengel]

Yeah, you still haven't stated that you can honestly backtrack your ancestry back to Slave times. And just cause you are Black doesn't mean you shared in the same pain and anquish that they did.

And seriously stop with the whole, how can I work with their so much injustice in the world? Actually I hope you don't work, keep mooching off your family because that's so much better.

I can't wait for your father to tell you to get a job and he you tell him how can I work when reparations aren't make to the descendents of slaves, and he back hands you in the head and tells yout to get a job again.

 

[Erzengel]

Since all blacks were eligible to be slaves back then all blacks would be eligible for benefits today. And reparations would be given to ambitious school children in the form of school vouchers.

So even the ones not descended by slavery who just happen to luck out by being black. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.