Sequels Raimi Speaks.

[Venomfan]

the only crappy thing that will happen if they take the series in a new direction, closer to the comics, with Peter acting like he's supposed to, everyone is going to be like "i didn't like how spider-man acted in the new movie, he didn't act like spider-man at all" and then us fanboys are going to have to explain how this is actually how Spidey and Peter act and that the first 3 movies effed it up.

 

[Visionary]

I want Raimi for Spider-Man 4, and Tobey and Kirsten.

Haha...

Dude, I hope you're one hell of a fighter, because Raimi, Tobey and Kirsten haters are going to kill you, lol.

the only crappy thing that will happen if they take the series in a new direction, closer to the comics, with Peter acting like he's supposed to, everyone is going to be like "i didn't like how spider-man acted in the new movie, he didn't act like spider-man at all" and then us fanboys are going to have to explain how this is actually how Spidey and Peter act and that the first 3 movies effed it up.

Nope, the characters acted exactly the way MARVEL wanted them to act on film, they read the entire script of all 3 movies, and approved every single word, scene, character and costume. You won't have to explain a damn thing to anyone, because no one outside of Geekdom will give a f---.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

because Raimi, Tobey and Kirsten haters are going to kill you, lol.

Yeah, I've had my share of that.

 

[DACrowe]

Someone who loves the characters never would have done such monstrosity as was the Green Goblin, and then after that the fiasco that was Spider-Man 3.

wah.

 

[DACrowe]

I agree.

Not only did they kill off GG1 but also GG2.

This franchise needs a re-boot, imo.

You do realize they died in the comics right? Complaining about killing off Doc Ock and Venom is a better argument. And besides Harry's arc was the best thing about SM3 and saved the movie (IMO) from being crap. Of course I'm in the vocal minority.

 

[Golgo-13]

You do realize they died in the comics right? Complaining about killing off Doc Ock and Venom is a better argument. And besides Harry's arc was the best thing about SM3 and saved the movie (IMO) from being crap. Of course I'm in the vocal minority.

Yes i do realise they died in the comic but not within several months of their creation ( in the case of Norman). Norman/GG is supposed to be Spidey's greatest foe. And while i don't agree with venom nor Ocks death either, i feel GG's arc was too important to kill him off so soon. His on and off amnesia was a great plot devise that was meant to torment Spidey over a long period of time. They ruined that beautifully aspect of the GG saga. He was one of the 'few' ppl who knew Peter and Spidey were one in the same, but in Raimi-verse everyone and their grandmother knows who Spidey is (or have seen him mask-less) ;plus the city now loves Spidey and is holding parades in his honor?

This franchise needs a re-boot. Wait a few years, maybe give the property back to Marvel ala universal/Hulk and give us an untainted Spidey movie!

Btw, i agree with you on the Harry arc. It was the one saving grace of that god aweful SM3.

 

[Venom 1988]

Yes i do realise they died in the comic but not within several months of their creation ( in the case of Norman).

Except these arent the comics, where GG lives to fight another day and come back over and over

Norman/GG is supposed to be Spidey's greatest foe.

And I pretty much got that impression in the movie.

 

[omid17]

Both Goblins were bad ass loved , the actors, their performance, their suits and their relationship with Parker, it was perfect imo

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Both Goblins were bad ass loved , the actors, their performance, their suits and their relationship with Parker, it was perfect imo

'Nuff said.

 

[omid17]

'Nuff said.

 

[FaT_tONle]

You guys all want this crew back for one more... I always here one more... Lizard... marriage... reboot after that... but where DO they go after that? Seriously. It will be boring seeing a married Parker not going after other women... or not seeing other women persuing him. Plus we'll be getting second tier villains... I doubt they will repeat with the exception of a Sinister Six. If they can't sign the current cast to three more films (which will never happen) then goodbye... Raimi can stay as a producer... no one is against that.

 

[Blader5489]

Yes i do realise they died in the comic but not within several months of their creation ( in the case of Norman). Norman/GG is supposed to be Spidey's greatest foe. And while i don't agree with venom nor Ocks death either, i feel GG's arc was too important to kill him off so soon. His on and off amnesia was a great plot devise that was meant to torment Spidey over a long period of time. They ruined that beautifully aspect of the GG saga. He was one of the 'few' ppl who knew Peter and Spidey were one in the same, but in Raimi-verse everyone and their grandmother knows who Spidey is (or have seen him mask-less) ;plus the city now loves Spidey and is holding parades in his honor?

This franchise needs a re-boot. Wait a few years, maybe give the property back to Marvel ala universal/Hulk and give us an untainted Spidey movie!

Holy hell, you have no idea what you're talking about.

So you wanted the movies to constantly reuse the same villain, using amnesia (a plot device that people *****ed about in SM3) on a regular basis as a means of justifying Norman constantly changing from good guy to bad guy?

Jeez, talk about a total lack of creativity.

 

[Leenie]

Isn't it great how people started hating on the first two films just because they didn't care for Spider-Man 3?

Before Spidey 3, I got the impression that the fans unanimously agreed that Spider-Man 1 and 2 are not only fantastic comic book films, but also fantastic films, period. Since Spider-Man 3 was less than perfect, I've noticed that more and more people are disliking the first two films, which makes no sense to me. I mean, you all can like what you want to like, but I couldn't help but notice ...

In my opinion, Sam Raimi made two amazing films, and one good film. That's why I want him to return for at least one more movie.

 

[DACrowe]

Yes i do realise they died in the comic but not within several months of their creation ( in the case of Norman). Norman/GG is supposed to be Spidey's greatest foe. And while i don't agree with venom nor Ocks death either, i feel GG's arc was too important to kill him off so soon. His on and off amnesia was a great plot devise that was meant to torment Spidey over a long period of time. They ruined that beautifully aspect of the GG saga. He was one of the 'few' ppl who knew Peter and Spidey were one in the same, but in Raimi-verse everyone and their grandmother knows who Spidey is (or have seen him mask-less) ;plus the city now loves Spidey and is holding parades in his honor?

This franchise needs a re-boot. Wait a few years, maybe give the property back to Marvel ala universal/Hulk and give us an untainted Spidey movie!

Btw, i agree with you on the Harry arc. It was the one saving grace of that god aweful SM3.

I agree Norman is great villain but I don't feel the series should be regulated to one villain. I think starting with Ock and moving into GG could've worked for the sequel, but then people would complain about Ock not getting enough screentime in SM1 and the lower budget CGI. I really disagree with him coming back every movie and having no resolution with the amnesia subplot which was always cheesy and a point of attack people have on SM3 (even though it is resolved within the picture). Again, Raimi, nor the producers are thinking "I'm making six movies" when they did these and each has to stand alone. Raimi wanted to wrap a trilogy and he streamlined things to get to Harry Osborn as a GG type in SM3. And in the end I think the Goblin Saga is one of the best aspects of the Spidey movies as it captures that essence of the comics even without Gwen Stacy, Normie, Liz or countless mind games. It streamlines it into a trilogy and hits the major points. In that way Norman Osborn's "ghost" haunts all the characters throughout the trilogy, but it isn't just all about him.

Again I think it worked very well.

Reboot is the fan's most overused word.

 

[DACrowe]

Isn't it great how people started hating on the first two films just because they didn't care for Spider-Man 3?

Before Spidey 3, I got the impression that the fans unanimously agreed that Spider-Man 1 and 2 are not only fantastic comic book films, but also fantastic films, period. Since Spider-Man 3 was less than perfect, I've noticed that more and more people are disliking the first two films, which makes no sense to me. I mean, you all can like what you want to like, but I couldn't help but notice ...

In my opinion, Sam Raimi made two amazing films, and one good film. That's why I want him to return for at least one more movie.

And if SM4 is Raimi and is good, it is all gravy again and ass kissing. Ironic, much?

 

[Mike]

This film needs a new director. Not because SM3 sucked so bad. I just want to see what someone else can do with the franchise.

 

[TheVileOne]

No matter who directs, its better to see Raimi getting along with Sony and having input on the franchise. We don't want another Singer/20th Century Fox on our hands.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Complaining about killing off Doc Ock and Venom is a better argument. And besides Harry's arc was the best thing about SM3 and saved the movie (IMO) from being crap. Of course I'm in the vocal minority.

No you are not in the minority... many of us feel that way about Harry/GG2.

Flint should have simply been a prisoner on Dealth Row trying to escape with nothing to lose and everything to gain and Venom should have never appeared; however, they could have given Classic Eddie the Connors treatment and shelved Jr.

Now remember, none of us are quite certain about Doc Ock's death... Sam in interviews, did hint and left that door open about Doc Ock's possible survival.

Norman/GG is supposed to be Spidey's greatest foe. GG's arc was too important to kill him off so soon. He was one of the 'few' ppl who knew Peter and Spidey were one in the same, but in Raimi-verse everyone and their grandmother knows who Spidey is (or have seen him mask-less) ;plus the city now loves Spidey and is holding parades in his honor?

I understand what you are saying and for the most part I agree; however, I just don't think one can cram the whole essence and history, from years and chapters of a villain in a 2hr plus film. I think Sam capture the basic essence of the GG. I just wish he would have capture it with Gwen first and have MJ introduced and console Pete at the end for his loss and go from there.

There is no need for a re-boot IMHO.

Both Goblins were bad ass loved , the actors, their performance, their suits and their relationship with Parker, it was perfect imo

Couldn't have said it better... Dead-on... no pun intended.

No matter who directs, its better to see Raimi getting along with Sony and having input on the franchise. We don't want another Singer/20th Century Fox on our hands.

No one has articulated the truth as coherent as that... couldn't agree more.

 

[Immortalfire]

Glad Sam is still up for it.

Now if he can keep Avi Arad out of his hair, we'll be all set.

 

[omid17]

Glad Sam is still up for it.

Now if he can keep Avi Arad out of his hair, we'll be all set.

 

[Beanjuice]

Keep raimi away from SM..... lets get new blood

2nd

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I just want to see what someone else can do with the franchise.

What if the film fails though? We're better off with Sam, IMO.

 

[boog_spin]

Raimi approved that awful design and even that black ninja costume was better looking than that plastic armor - excuse of a cheap 'goblin' design. But Raimi ruined the story in many other aspects than just in horrible interpretation of the Goblin, and that doesn't mean that Dafoe played perfectly his part as Osborn, but when he is the Goblin he is silly and stupid looking. The switch between Mary Jane and Gwen's character is also Raimi's doing. Dunst should have played Gwen Stacy and she should have been killed there on the bridge... and not continue to be damsel in distress for every future installment. In Spider-Man 2 it worked, but with Spider-Man 3 it was too much. It becomes too predictable.
The fact is that Raimi is making these films not with passion to those characters and stories, but for fame and money. The team behind the new Spider-Man show are real fans of those stories and characters and they're making a perfect job, maybe Raimi, in his pride, should finally realize how things are done for the fans and look at the new show for ideas and inspiration.

aw c'mon dude...when they made the 1st spidey movie they really HAVE to go with the most well known characters...i would say the majority of people recognize MJ as peters gf....as his "love". the majority of people identify spiderman with the GG or doc ock...so they chose GG as his enemy. you really cant complain about how they did it....

i totally understand what you are saying, as i would have preferred the whole gwen dying thing, but kids love spidey, and to kill off a main character in the first movie would have been a little "weird"

and i agree with you that the whole having to save MJ at the end of every movie is getting a little old, but if he was just saving some random chick at the end, then the payoff is pretty much meh...there's no real payoff.

and you really think sam only did these movies for money? for fame? i thinks its fairly obvious he loves the character. i'm not saying he nailed it, but he made 2 great movies (IMO) and one so-so one (and i think it was just so-so because of the studios interference)

anyways...i think it would be cool if they did 4-5 back to back in one big story..wrap up everything..then wait 15 years or so and start over...

and i also think using batman beins as a reference to how you should save bigger villians for the sequels is a pretty bad example. we had 4 batman movies before. they used the joker in the 1st. then the penguin, catwoman, 2 face, the riddler..etc. they had already done these characters before. so most people have already seen the joker, so it wasnt really necessary to use the most famous villian in order to draw people in. spidey had to use the GG because this was the first spidey movie ever mad...you gotta go with the most familia route, i think, when doing these movies...

but thats just what i think so who really cares haha

 

[jrd550]

new director and actors please.

raimi had his chance and he blew it with Spidey 3 - it could have been a perfect trilogy, but instead we got 2 1/2, much like x-men

 

[Immortalfire]

Reboot is the fan's most overused word.

Too true. I enjoyed Batman Begins as much as the next fan, but it certainly has cursed us all with that dreaded word.