Endgame Rate and discuss the new trailer

[samsnee]

I should have made it a public poll

 

[shinlyle]

I should have made it a public poll

Well, usually someone who votes a 1 is either A) a troll, B) A HUGE DC fanboy who can't like both, or C) someone with a genuine perspective I would like to hear!

We have seen all 3 here on the hype, and, whereas the first 2 are entertaining from a clown-like perspective, the third is always thought-provoking and interesting...

 

[Tony Stark]

Most likely A or B. As I said I can see where someone might have a technical complaint about the trailer, it doesn't show much and most of it is from previous films. Having said that from a marketing aspect this is pure genius. you evoke nostalgia among the fanbase, and you kept the plot a secret. Hell they haven't even shown Thanos at all yet.

Marvel could have premiered this trailer with CM but they have learned the exposure from social media and the Internet is way more powerful than attaching it to a film. So they have the post credit scene in CM that is very much a teaser, and they drop this a week after the release of CM and the tag scene is a scene with CM so they just advertised CM for it's second weekend.

As I said this is exactly how to mass market your product. This is the kind of stuff that even Apple and Tesla could learn from.

 

[Luigi]

5

Tone and characters are at the forefront of this trailer.

 

[samsnee]

I love that at best we’ve seen 5 minutes of footage from a 3 hour movie.

 

[BrianThompson]

After a very long time in movie history, the marketing campaign is done how it should always be done for every single high stakes movie. I've been saying that for over a decade at least. It's been a lot of disappointment over the years, that's why I'm very happy and excited for Endgame.

Trailers for movies like this shouldn't show anything regarding the plot. Even more so when you know a movie has unexpected twists and turns in it. One of the reasons why I say most people these days are shallow, have ridiculously mindless logic about movies and in all honesty don't deserve movies of this magnitude is this - they want to see a lot of footage, especially juicy parts, but at the same time they don't want to know anything ''big'' about the movie. And then they're mad when the trailer shows too much, but they don't realize they ask for too much to begin with. That's just not how it works.

The main problem with trailers is exactly that - showing juicy stuff. How it works for me for example is, I see a trailer, I watch it a few times and I remember it completely whether I want to or not. And then, when I go see the movie, I just keep ''deleting'' trailer scenes from my mind as they show them in the movie. I know exactly which scenes have been shown and which haven't when I'm watching the movie. And that is a huge problem because it takes away the surprises the movie has completely whether they want to or not simply because of the tiny, juicy trailer footage.

For example, that was a huge disappointment for me in Fast and Furious 8 (The Fate of the Furious). I'm a huge Fast and Furious fan too and those who follow it will know what I'm talking about. There was a scene in the trailer for that movie showing Jason Statham's character taking off his helmet inside of a plane, that's it regarding that scene. I remembered it, of course. And then, when I watched the movie, there was a scene in the middle of the movie where Jason Statham's character gets shot and presumably killed. Even a few scenes later, one other character SAYS he's dead (to throw off the other characters).

It should've been ''wow, he's dead, he can't be dead, please no blah blah blah'', right? That's what the writer and the director were going for. But, because they showed the footage of Jason's character in the back of the plane in the trailer, I was aware that the scene from the plane didn't happen in the movie yet and that's why I knew he wasn't dead. A huge twist gone down the drain just like that, ruined. Just because they wanted to show something ''juicy'' or ''cool'' in the trailer.

With Endgame, it's almost perfect. They have fake scenes, digitally removed content from the real footage and trailers that don't show anything other than transitional scenes or minor scenes that don't reveal the plot itself. Unfortunately, almost perfect. For example, they made the first trailer perfect, but they screwed it up with the second one regarding Tony Stark. They showed him and Nebula in the Avengers HQ, thus spoiling that he was gonna return back to Earth. They showed Ant-Man out of the Quantum Realm, that's another screw up too, but other than that, it's perfect.

They have to be careful what they show. Almost none are unfortunately.

 

[MagicalMe]

Maybe the scene of Stark and Nebula on Earth is a fake scene and they actually spend the entire movie floating around in the Benatar then he dies.

 

[BrianThompson]

Maybe the scene of Stark and Nebula on Earth is a fake scene and they actually spend the entire movie floating around in the Benatar then he dies.

To be honest, I know probably nobody believed that Tony was gonna be in that ship the whole movie, but Marvel's job is to make us question everything, definitely not give us a straight answer, like ''here he was, now he's here, boom''. Reveal that ruins the surprise. Not a big one, but still a surprise. It ruins the suspense above anything. However… I do have a different theory that I don't think has been proposed by anyone yet. I might be wrong. It's partially my wish also because that would be the coolest thing in my book if it happened.

It's about that particular scene with Tony in space. My theory is that present day Tony (or Tony from the ship in the trailer) actually dies there in the first 20 minutes of the movie. BUT... Tony from the past is the one who is in the Avengers HQ. It's most likely a time travel movie (as we know from leaks that they new shot scenes from the Avengers movie where Tony was in S.H.I.E.L.D. uniform escorting Loki to the Hulk cage (which didn't happen in the original Avengers).

So, I believe that the present day Avengers time travel back to the past, specifically to the events of The Avengers and they take Tony from The Avengers with them back to the future (or present day). Maybe only Ant-Man brings him back and the other Avengers don't go to the past.

Another theory I have is that all present day Avengers die fighting a rematch against Thanos and then Ant-Man stays the only one alive and travels back to the past via Time Vortex and recruits the Avengers from the past to fight Thanos directly in the past or travels to the future (present day) with them.