Rate MAN OF STEEL......once and for all - Part 2

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[BH/HHH]

I personally think editing could have saved the Pa Kent scene as it is, if it didn't look like they all just stand there and watch him for 5 mins then I think it would be more accepted.

As I've said before it thematically fits in with the film it's just not edited or executed very well. I have my preferences of how I'd have liked it to go down but those are my own hang ups. Still it's one scene and there's not another one I dislike so it's not a deal breaker at all.

 

[Micromind]

It would have been better if Pa Kent had died similarly but while rescuing some family and their dog while Clark was simultaneously saving others, then he realizes that Pa Kent would not be able to save himself.

 

[BH/HHH]

It would have been better if Pa Kent had died similarly but while rescuing some family and their dog while Clark was simultaneously saving others, then he realizes that Pa Kent would not be able to save himself.

Yeah that's what I said, have it so Clark is saving people and Pa Kent is also helping people, I'd have also had it in the middle of Smallville where all the shops are and that. Clark is trying to get to his Dad but he's also having to help people, when he finally makes it to where his Dad is, his Dad is swept away by the tornado. It still would have worked thematically. I think having had that happen would have also left Clark feeling he needed to find answers to his past and still saving people been careful.

 

[batfreakforever]

There was nothing wrong with man of steel.
Its was made for men not boys. BvS looks to following the no bs way of thinking like MoS.

 

[Flint Marko]

Pretty much every superhero film with a PG-13 rating is a four quadrant movie.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Deadpool is rated R, and yet, that looks more like it's tailored for teens than adults.

 

[Mjölnir]

It's ironic that it's generally only immature people that focus so much on which ages a movie is made for. When you learn what it is to be an adult you no longer have to rely on what kind of movies you like to prove it.

 

[The Batman]

I'm sure a lot of people found more value in a "kids film" like Inside Out than they did in a supposed "Adult Movie".

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It's ironic that it's generally only immature people that focus so much on which ages a movie is made for. When you learn what it is to be an adul[YT][/YT]t you no longer have to rely on what kind of movies you like to prove it.

Unsurprising. Immaturity is not in short supply around here.

 

[Dr.]

It would have been better if Pa Kent had died similarly but while rescuing some family and their dog while Clark was simultaneously saving others, then he realizes that Pa Kent would not be able to save himself.

Clearly, MOS wanted to explore a heart-rending, “Sophie’s choice” style dilemma. Jonathan’s self-sacrifice would protect Clark and (“meta-textually”) ensure the future existence of Superman. So it was Jonathan or Clark - but not both.

Now, it could/might be legitimate to criticize this cruel predicament as too dark or otherwise inappropriate for a Superman story. In which case, it’s relatively easy to imagine alternatives. Clark could use super speed (or some other deus ex machina) to save his father and maintain his secret. Or (as you describe) events could be structured such that Jonathan’s death was effectively unavoidable. Either way, the “Sophie’s choice” is bypassed. But it’s useful, I think, to recognize that the notion of choice is the core controversy with this scene. To wit: Like James Kirk during the Kobayashi Maru test, some fans - when it comes to Superman - “don’t believe in the no-win scenario.”

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Deadpool is rated R, and yet, that looks more like it's tailored for teens than adults.

To be honest, Mr. Scrotumface's Wild Adventure aka Deadpool looks like they hired a ten or eleven year old boy to write the script. "Now you can swear all you want, kid".

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Yeesh . Thank god for the ignore feature.

 

[C. Lee]

Whiskey Tango.....Batsfan1.....if either of you continue the childish argument you have been disrupting this thread with......I will send each of you to a certain upstate new York institute and have you lobotomized.


All Hail Doc Savage

 

[Swamp Spectre]

I never got to officially vote, but put me down for "Excellent."

Not a perfect film by any means, but a powerful one with off the wall action that actually overwhelmed me a bit the first time I saw it. That just means I had to go see it twice in theaters to soak it all in!

 

[BH/HHH]

I never got to officially vote, but put me down for "Excellent."

Not a perfect film by any means, but a powerful one with off the wall action that actually overwhelmed me a bit the first time I saw it. That just means I had to go see it twice in theaters to soak it all in!

Welcome to the hype! I went to see it three times myself and loved it every time

 

[Rowsdower!]

One thing I want to add here since it gets brought up a lot specifically in regards to this film. I almost never go to see a movie -- any movie -- more than once in a theater. I've only seen The Force Awakens once and it's doubtful I'll go see it again. Doesn't mean I didn't love the film. I bring it up because I only saw MOS once in the theater as well, and I love that film as well. But since the majority of MOS's box office came in the first couple weeks, a lot of people have said that the film failed with audiences because there wasn't a huge return crowd.

That may be true, but it may also be true that most of the people who saw it only saw it once or twice. That doesn't mean they didn't like it, just that they didn't go back and see it again and again. I believe this might actually be happening more than we think with a lot of blockbuster (or would-be blockbuster films). Movie tickets aren't the most expensive thing in the world but they're not cheap (especially when it comes to 3D IMAX films). And then when you factor in snacks, parking (depending on where you're seeing the film) and other things, I would imagine that there is a large percentage of people who only go to see a movie once. Of course, there are always going to be outliers (I'm sure most people here and most of the people I know are going to see TFA multiple times if they haven't already).

 

[Swamp Spectre]

Welcome to the hype! I went to see it three times myself and loved it every time

Thanks! I actually enjoyed it more the second time I saw it in the theater, once I had the chance to digest some of the themes and sequences. I like it even more after having purchased it on Blu-ray and rewatched a few times.

 

[BH/HHH]

Thanks! I actually enjoyed it more the second time I saw it in the theater, once I had the chance to digest some of the themes and sequences. I like it even more after having purchased it on Blu-ray and rewatched a few times.

I often think you get your true opinions on a film on a second watch, further watches show a films replay value and for me MOS has plenty of replay value.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

I do think something like Man of Steel is a film you should take in multiple times before forming an ultimate opinion simply because it was so different from what people got in the past.

 

[BH/HHH]

I do think something like Man of Steel is a film you should take in multiple times before forming an ultimate opinion simply because it was so different from what people got in the past.

Its true but I think you can say that about most movies to be fair. My brother was disappointed with The Force Awakens but saw it for the second time today and he loved it second time.

 

[The Batman]

The more I watched MOS, the worse it got. I used to think it was a 7/10 film,now I can't consider it higher than a 6. The same thing happened with Superman Returns.

 

[BH/HHH]

Its a 9/10 for me, honestly if I could make what little changes I would like to it would be a complete 10

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

The more I watched MOS, the worse it got. I used to think it was a 7/10 film,now I can't consider it higher than a 6. The same thing happened with Superman Returns.

Same thing happened with me. The movie got worse every time I watched it...how is that even possible?

Batman vs Superman looks better, though.