Justice League Re-cast Hal Jordan for JL movie? Yay or Nay? - Part 1

[Walt Bickle]

They don't have the same name though. It's a translation. Every language on every planet has it's equivalent. The main character is from Earth and speaks English, therefore the franchise is called Green Lantern. For example, Rot Lop Fan can't see and communicates through sound, therefore his equivalent is the F-Sharp Bell.

And if the fact that Lanterns have similar shapes on different planets is difficult for you to believe, maybe a superhero forum isn't the place for you.

i wished that was true on every sci fi concept, i hate the way everyone is able to speak to eachother on diff planets.

ha ha but why is it a lantern? i just sayin its still silly. it would be like you and me coming up with the exact same invention but with one of them totally pointless as to why it is that invention

they definatally made the concept because they thought the name green lantern sounded good :-p

 

[HighFivingMF]

they definatally made the concept because they thought the name green lantern sounded good :-p

Well it certainly does.

And technically the name did exist before the intergalactic police force, what with Alan Scott and all.

 

[Walt Bickle]

Well it certainly does.

And technically the name did exist before the intergalactic police force, what with Alan Scott and all.

yeah i know, thats what i ment about being remade from an even older concept.

 

[Lantern Venom]

it's like they made his name first, and then tried to make a concept around the name green lantern alone, the power is the most ridiculous power of a hero that i can think of thats not supposed to be funny, and this chosen one to wear the ring kinda crap. and getting energy from a galactic lantern in the shape of an outdated lantern.
lanterns were created by humans on earth, so think it's dumb that there is a giant green one in space that gives people powers

Really? A small, alien super computer than incarnates the wearer's thoughts is more ridiculous than a human-looking alien who can generate heat from his eyes, chill from his lungs, and hear across the planet...all because yellow is awesome and red is a bummer.

 

[regwec]

I think his point about the lantern itself is fair- why does this artefact of the most advanced alien technology look exactly like an old miner's lamp?

The power rings themselves are not problematic, for me.

One GL I have enjoyed is Earth 2's Alan Scott. How would you feel about the movie Justice League having a gay member?

 

[Airwings]

a green lantern franchise is just not going to work

If done right, it will work.
Maybe not to you, but the GA.

 

[regwec]

If Men in Black was that popular, I can't see why Green Lantern couldn't be. It's a matter of making an honest appraisal of the merits of the source material. For me, that includes dropping Hal Jordan, or perhaps merging him with Sinestro as the fallen prodigy archetype.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Hal Jordan is vastly preferable to John Stewart. They're both pretty bad archetypes of the flyboy/gruff military types respectively anyway.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I always find it funny when I see people complain about characters being archetypes on a SUPERHERO forum.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

There is no doubt that GL has some hard mythology to adapt and not look stupid. The magical lantern and the constructs from the magical green ring are just outright dumb and campy ideas. WB should have treaded more carefully when adapting it to the big screen. A big head guy with mind powers and an evil cloud is not ****ing treading carefully.

It doesn't matter how much fanboys whine about it nobody cares about Hal Jordan. When GL was cast, most layman thought that the character was black. I'm not saying that you should like the fact that nobody cares about Hal Jordan but they don't.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I always find it funny when I see people complain about characters being archetypes on a SUPERHERO forum.

Kek. I know in terms they broadly should adhere to the supehero archetypes, but personalities should differ, develop and be unique.

Not many of the Lanterns are, obviously that should change for film, so it's likely a moot point anyway.

 

[brainchild81]

If Men in Black was that popular, I can't see why Green Lantern couldn't be. It's a matter of making an honest appraisal of the merits of the source material. For me, that includes dropping Hal Jordan

Ditto.

There is no doubt that GL has some hard mythology to adapt and not look stupid. The magical lantern and the constructs from the magical green ring are just outright dumb and campy ideas. WB should have treaded more carefully when adapting it to the big screen. A big head guy with mind powers and an evil cloud is not ****ing treading carefully.

It doesn't matter how much fanboys whine about it nobody cares about Hal Jordan. When GL was cast, most layman thought that the character was black. I'm not saying that you should like the fact that nobody cares about Hal Jordan but they don't.

Yep. Hal's never really meant that much to people outside of his comic fanbase. His comic fans will likely see any GL in live action so it would have been much safer to go w/John in the first place. Get everybody's money!

I think Hal should be stated as dead in the JL film and sinestro wiped everyones minds of the events of the first GL movie and should be the villain in JL along with AMAZO. John Stewart should be Hals replacement.

I'm fine w/Hal being dead but I'm not sure if they'd be able to make the mindwipe thing work. They'd probably be better off just pretending Hal never existed

 

[Walt Bickle]

Really? A small, alien super computer than incarnates the wearer's thoughts is more ridiculous than a human-looking alien who can generate heat from his eyes, chill from his lungs, and hear across the planet...all because yellow is awesome and red is a bummer.

yeah but no one would be able to control there thoughts like that in fairness. ''okay need to imagine a giant mallet, but everyone is watching..whatever you do don't think of a giant naked hot chick!' (giant naked hot chick appears). ''ah ****!''
and god knows what would happen with Alan scott, yikes!

yeah I know superman is dumb to, but not as bad as GL.
I really hope they leave out the freeze breath in the sequel... wished they retconned the glasses crap too!

 

[HighFivingMF]

Yep. Hal's never really meant that much to people outside of his comic fanbase.

And John's never really meant much even in the comic fanbase...

 

[Walt Bickle]

If done right, it will work.
Maybe not to you, but the GA.

to the GA? out of all my friends I only know one person who went to see GL in the cinema. and most of them are into marvel and dc movies etc.

I haven't even seen the movie. He's just a very dull character

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And John's never really meant much even in the comic fanbase...

He obviously means something if people thought the GL character was black when the movie was cast. Comic fans do not make movies hits.

 

[brainchild81]

Ditto

 

[HighFivingMF]

Yeah, it means people saw a black dude in the costume once. Doesn't mean they cared for him.

 

[brainchild81]

They cared enough to remember him. He was memorable. He meant something to them. Hal didn't and now that his movie sucked so bad, to the small amount that he does mean something to, he probably means something BAD.

 

[RadioSha]

I would like a new origin movie for GL. This time for John Stewart.

Since he doesn't really have a very fleshed out origin to becoming a GL, I think WB could get super creative with him. Imagine Stewart as a physically and mentally scarred military vet just coming back from duty. He comes home to no job (he may be homeless). Also, he may have no family to come back to because at the time, he believed that serving for his country was the only opportunity he had.

I don't know if any of you guys have seen Out of the Furnace with Christian Bale and Casey Affleck, but I could see the origin film to resemble the struggle of Casey Affleck's character. Broken down and deprived of opportunities. This could be nice rival to the whole "will" theme of Green Lanterns.

However way they want to execute it, Stewart gets the ring and realizes that all his struggles can be overcome by having strong will and imagination, hence realizing that there is more to him than being a hired gun (yadi yada yada -and he fights aliens- yadi yada yada).

I don't know. I think that would be cool. It separates from the whole ego-centric, military man stereotype.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I think his point about the lantern itself is fair- why does this artefact of the most advanced alien technology look exactly like an old miner's lamp?

The power rings themselves are not problematic, for me.

One GL I have enjoyed is Earth 2's Alan Scott. How would you feel about the movie Justice League having a gay member?

Scott's sexuality isn't a problem for me, but the mythos of his ring is.

Hal Jordan is vastly preferable to John Stewart. They're both pretty bad archetypes of the flyboy/gruff military types respectively anyway.

Stewart doesn't have Jordan's exposure, but he's every bit as deep and refined as Hal. Granted, he's been somewhat of a malaise since Rebirth, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a great part of the GL mythos.

It doesn't matter how much fanboys whine about it nobody cares about Hal Jordan. When GL was cast, most layman thought that the character was black. I'm not saying that you should like the fact that nobody cares about Hal Jordan but they don't.

The fact is that Green Lantern, with Hal Jordan as its centerpiece, has been around since 1959. Not only does GL keep reappearing in various media decade after decade, the concept has spawned a mini-universe with DC comics. Characters which "nobody cares about" don't last for over half of a century.

 

[mace1]

They cared enough to remember him. He was memorable. He meant something to them. Hal didn't and now that his movie sucked so bad, to the small amount that he does mean something to, he probably means something BAD.

You will like this.

Green Lantern Corps #26 - Homecoming Review

John Stewart has a few words to say to Hal Jordan. But instead he punches him in the jaw. Meanwhile, the Lantern recruits take an unexpected stand against a personal injustice.

It’s Lantern vs. Lantern as John Stewart battles Hal Jordan for the leadership of the Corps! For months, John Stewart has let his anger build as Hal Jordan sent Guy Gardner into the Red Lanterns and declared war against other corps across the spectrum. After the devastating events of “LIGHTS OUT,” John is determined to rebuild the Corps as he sees fit—even if it means taking down his oldest friend!

Read the reviews and comments and tell us what you think.

http://www.comicvine.com/reviews/green-lantern-corps-26/1900-2515/


and

http://www.comicvine.com/green-lantern-corps-26-homecoming/4000-436155/

 

[Lantern Venom]

You will like this.

Green Lantern Corps #26 - Homecoming Review

John Stewart has a few words to say to Hal Jordan. But instead he punches him in the jaw. Meanwhile, the Lantern recruits take an unexpected stand against a personal injustice.



Read the reviews and comments and tell us what you think.

http://www.comicvine.com/reviews/green-lantern-corps-26/1900-2515/

John is finally regaining his footing with recent GLC issues. I like Guy heading the Reds as well, although it seems many long-time fans don't like the new look. New Guardians was an outstanding book for awhile, although its hit a rough patch in recent months.

Also, I hope this "limited resource" story point goes away eventually. That is only going to be a hindrance in the near future.

 

[mace1]

mace1: He wasn't an official member. Kyle was. Replacing Hal for a few one-three missions doesn't equal membership status.

You did not make make yourself clear.
I all said he was a member at times,but i did not say official.He was in more then just 3 missions with them.
Those were just examples i posted.

 

[brainchild81]

Scott's sexuality isn't a problem for me, but the mythos of his ring is. The starheart origin, the inability to combat wood, and Scott's disconnection from the GLC make him "meh" character on his own.



Stewart doesn't have Jordan's exposure, but he's every bit as deep and refined as Hal. Granted, he's been somewhat of a malaise since Rebirth, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a great part of the GL mythos.



Those "laymen" are the ignorant GA sheeple. Not only is their opinion of Hal irrelevant, if they didn't care about John enough to explore him outside of the JL 'toon, they don't respect him, either.

The fact is that Green Lantern, with Hal Jordan as its centerpiece, has been around since 1959. Not only does GL keep reappearing in various media decade after decade, the concept has spawned a mini-universe with DC comics. Characters which "nobody cares about" don't last for over half of a century.

This again? You're not getting it. You're too close to it. No one is taking away what Hal is to comic readers. Hal's been in the comics for over half a century, but he's never been in the public eye like a Spidey, Bats, Supes, or Hulk. That 50+history means a lot to comic fans but it means absolutely nothing to the GA. That's just the way it is. I don't like the fact that most people aren't into comics either, but it's not a reason to hate on the GA because they don't share your fondness for a fictional character. That's a lame attitude to have. You're better than that. The bottom line is that the GA's opinion on Hal is really the most relevant when it comes to Hal in live action films. They can make him a success there. You can't. It may be a harsh reality, but it's reality.

You will like this.

Green Lantern Corps #26 - Homecoming Review

John Stewart has a few words to say to Hal Jordan. But instead he punches him in the jaw. Meanwhile, the Lantern recruits take an unexpected stand against a personal injustice.







Read the reviews and comments and tell us what you think.

http://www.comicvine.com/reviews/green-lantern-corps-26/1900-2515/


and

http://www.comicvine.com/green-lantern-corps-26-homecoming/4000-436155/

Dammit, Mace! You're gonna make me start buying GL/DC books again after I swore against it when I heard about plans to off John. Everything about that cover looks awesome! That's right, John! Hit him w/the ring hand! That artist has serious skills. I wish they'd go back to the bald guy w/goatee look again tho