Justice League Re-cast Hal Jordan for JL movie? Yay or Nay? - Part 1

Ackles would be great, but to me it doesn't seem like the guy wants to be in everything big. He's perfectly comfortable just being on Supernatural. Which sucks because he would be a terrific Hal
 
At this point, I don't care. I guess I'll say no. Who wants someone to play the role when he doesn't give a ****?
 
Jensen would be great but aren't there problems with his contract with supernatural? I remember he really wanted to do captain America but they wouldn't let him.

Such a shame. What a horrible opportunity to miss career wise
 
Sure, they wouldnt budge for Marvel but Supernatural is Warner Bros, isnt it? Different kettle of fish.
 
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but he's only contracted for another year atm isn't he?
 
Sure, they wouldnt budge for Marvel but Supernatural is Warner Bros, isnt it? Different kettle of fish.

Yes, that is a good point. He's a very good choice and he would fit in well with the others who have already been cast
 
At this point, I don't care. I guess I'll say no. Who wants someone to play the role when he doesn't give a ****?

Reynolds actually seemed pretty passionate about the role when he was promoting it. Did you see that clip of him at Comic-Con reciting the GL oath for a little kid?

That said, I think after RIPD and all those terrible romcoms, Reynolds isn't exactly a sought-after leading man anymore, so they'll probably be looking for someone who's name hasn't been tainted yet.
 
Yeah. There's one more level Reynolds needs to sink to and that's doing a magic mike sequel.

He might mcconaghey himself but I don't think that's likely. Reboot and move on!
 
This is pre-new52.


Jong Li
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Honored Fallen Lantern of Space Sector 2814; Earth's FIrst Human Green Lantern


Powers
Attractive Male
Energy Manipulation
Flight
Force Field
Omni-lingual
Phasing / Ghost
Power Item
Telepathy
Unarmed Combat
Willpower-Based Constructs


History


Jong Li was actually Earth's first Human Green Lantern, and was a monk raised in the Temple of the Dragon Lords in Feudal China.

When Jong Li was growing up, he was taught of the Dragon Lords, beings who ruled in the "Golden Age" of man, and that under these lords, man prospered. He was taught to renounce all earthly possessions and to live a life of peace and discipline, but then one day an Imperial concubine, Jade Moon, and her infant son came to him in his temple, begging for help in trying to escape her bonds. Jong Li tried to help her but failed, and his temple and fellow monks were ravaged by the emperor's troops and their commander.


Jong Li later encountered one of the Guardians of the Universe who gave him a power ring and a lantern battery to "Oppose Evil, Ease Suffering and Protect the Innocent." Jong Li later rescued Jade Moon and learned of Lung Mountain, where the last Dragon Lords supposedly lived. He set out to seek their higher authority and with their Blessing of Fire became the last Dragon Lord of the Earth, finally defeating the evil emperor's forces and saving his people.

**This was not an Elseworlds tale, but an actual in-continuity story. Still, not enough information exists to decipher whether Jong-Li's tale takes place before or after that of Yalan Gur.**










http://www.comicvine.com/jong-li/4005-54321/
 
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Nah. It made a bit but I don't think it won any interesting awards.
 
Magic Mike made almost 2000% on it's production budget. It was a genuine hit. It also was part of the Matthew McConaughey renaissance and he should have got a Supporting Actor nod.
 
I never watched Magic Mike... But didn't it make a lot of money and win some awards?

Magic Mike made almost 2000% on it's production budget. It was a genuine hit. It also was part of the Matthew McConaughey renaissance and he should have got a Supporting Actor nod.

Yeah, it was a critical and commercial success by every measure. :huh: The hatred of that movie around here is super random. I think it's anti-Tatum stuff.

Anyway, I thought Reynolds was OK in the role. I wouldn't mind seeing him back, but I foresee a recast, TIH-Avengers style.
 
Magic Mike made almost 2000% on it's production budget. It was a genuine hit. It also was part of the Matthew McConaughey renaissance and he should have got a Supporting Actor nod.

Yeah but the budget was like $2. It's not like it was a huge billion dollar blockbuster or anything.

Still, maybe it could be if they put it in 3D...
 
The Dark Knight Rises-

Production budget- $230 million
Marketing budget- $100 million +
Domestic Return- $448 million
Foreign Return- $636 million
Foreign profit- $ 100 million potentially (sometimes as low as 15%)
Possible profit- $210 million


Warner Brothers spent $330 million and only made around 210 back. For the same price, they could make around 30 Magic Mike's, if they were all the same success, the company would be a lot richer.

But then of course greater overall risk statistics, hence why studios make an assortment.
 
Those figures don't seem to add up. Why is there no domestic profit figure to correspond to domestic return?
 
Slipped my mind, completely forgot. Yeah, obviously studios only get 55% of the domestic gross. Foreign can be anywhere between 15 and 40% IIRC.
 
The Dark Knight Rises-

Production budget- $230 million
Marketing budget- $100 million +
Domestic Return- $448 million
Foreign Return- $636 million
Foreign profit- $ 100 million potentially (sometimes as low as 15%)
Possible profit- $210 million


Warner Brothers spent $330 million and only made around 210 back. For the same price, they could make around 30 Magic Mike's, if they were all the same success, the company would be a lot richer.

But then of course greater overall risk statistics, hence why studios make an assortment.

You forgot promotional income.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-man-steel-nabs-562225

Warner Bros. has booked a whopping 98 promotional partners worldwide — so far — that are providing about $170 million in support (on top of paid ads) for Man of Steel. That’s even more than The Dark Knight Rises’ $150 million in third-party promos last summer.
 
Oh wow this is really boring. Let's get back to green lantern please.

It wouldn't suprise me if they got harry shum Jnr to play Kyle Rayner green lantern. Diversity is clearly a big issue with this film so far and I can guarantee the executives will be thinking of the asian demographic.

Plus, a younger green lantern would be great alongside grant gustin's flash which I reckon they will add to the roster
 
Yeah, it was a critical and commercial success by every measure. :huh: The hatred of that movie around here is super random. I think it's anti-Tatum stuff.

It's not random for everyone. I've never seen it, but I've read a detailed description. It's lowbrow crap, no matter how many awards it wins.

Oh wow this is really boring. Let's get back to green lantern please.

It wouldn't suprise me if they got harry shum Jnr to play Kyle Rayner green lantern. Diversity is clearly a big issue with this film so far and I can guarantee the executives will be thinking of the asian demographic.

Plus, a younger green lantern would be great alongside grant gustin's flash which I reckon they will add to the roster

Good points. I doubt WB is going to try a character with Kyle's limited history, but as a complete Rayner Mark, I'd dance the Commalla.
 
I found this interesting.




Disingenuous John Stewart “Fans” + July 2014 Solicitations



by Desh on April 23, 2014

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There’s an issue in Green Lantern fandom I’d like to address. It involves who is and isn’t a fan of Green Lantern John Stewart. I honestly don’t like saying who is and who isn’t a fan of something. People express their fandom in different ways and come into fandoms from different sources. I recognize that, and don’t disparage people over how or why they are a fan. However, I am going to break this rule of thumb in this instance, and question certain people’s fandom, because this is a special case.



Ever since I’ve been into Green Lantern, I’ve noticed people who claim they are fans of John Stewart, but they really aren’t. They are usually Hal Jordan fans. I would like you to keep that in mind while I take a relevant detour and turn our attention to former Green Lantern writer, Geoff Johns.


The above image -wonderfully drawn by Ivan Reis- is an example of why I criticize Geoff Johns so much. “Someone call for backup?” Really!?



Johns would love to keep John Stewart in the role he originally had in the 1970s; a “backup Lantern” who hardly ever showed up. An understudy who appeared during the rare instances Hal Jordan was unable to. Essentially, he was an infrequent supporting character in the wonderful world of Hal Jordan. Have a look at this other image from the Geoff Johns era of Green Lantern:


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You’ll notice that early into this scene, John Stewart identifies himself as “Hal Jordan’s partner.” In other words, his whole identity is pretty much what he is in relation to Hal Jordan. Saying, “Name’s John Stewart. I’m Hal Jordan’s partner,” would be okay if he was introducing himself out loud to some friend or acquaintance of Hal Jordan’s who did not know him. Yet, there John is, having an inner monologue identifying himself as what he is in relation to Hal Jordan.




This is an example of what Geoff Johns has done to John Stewart, which is downright insulting to his fans. He refused to acknowledge that John Stewart has legitimately and organically evolved out of that supporting character role. He liked to paint an image showing John Stewart as unimportant, a side character, and not noteworthy. Not just compared to Hal Jordan, but to all the Earth Green Lanterns. Geoff Johns was likely bitter over the fact that many people came to know John Stewart as Green Lantern. John was shining bright on the television sets of millions of people, being cemented in their minds as THE Green Lantern, while his favorite -Hal Jordan- was rotting in the grave. Johns is a fanboy who has been put in a position of power, and like a fanboy, he childishly took his revenge against a character he does not like. He probably heard people saying things like, “Oh yeah. I know Green Lantern. That cool Black superhero,” which burned him up similarly to people saying “Aquaman is the lamest superhero,” burns him up.



Geoff Johns often throws telling a great narrative aside to biasedly prove a point about his favorite and least favorite heroes. His playing of favorites is incredibly transparent and something many people across comic fandom have noted. What I’m pointing out with John Stewart is a very real example of him doing this. YES, Johns is an incredibly biased comic book fanboy! It is a well-established fact. He’s not entirely unlike the many you may see on the internet. Do you think those fanboys are above performing petty acts like that?


I certainly don’t.



As writer of Green Lantern, and undisputed creative mastermind of the franchise, Johns’ word was ‘law’ and canon. Thus his horrible disrespect of Green Lantern John Stewart, teamed with his burning passion for Hal Jordan, gave plenty of Geoff Johns’ toady fans fodder to denigrate John Stewart and proclaim the singular greatness of Hal Jordan, which I believe is essentially what Geoff Johns wanted to achieve.




He set up a perception where Hal Jordan was undoubtedly the “main Green Lantern,” and clearly superior to John Stewart, who was a frequently absent, boring background supporting character. This was Johns taking a massive passive aggressive dump on all the people who came to greatly respect the John Stewart character from the Justice League cartoons and identify him as being the Green Lantern. And, of course, we know this lasted for a very long time. After much patient waiting, it became apparent that so long as Geoff Johns was overseeing Green Lantern, John Stewart wasn’t going to get anywhere.



From a short Twitter discussion I had with the producer of Green Lantern: The Animated Series, I learned there were unrealized plans to bring John Stewart into the show. That sounds exciting, right?


No. Not really. Because I’m guessing if that happened, John Stewart would be a supporting character, just as I feel he would have been in some hypothetical Green Lantern film that would have happened if the 2011 Green Lantern movie was a success. There is great reason to believe John Stewart would have been some kind of stooge of Hal Jordan’s, while Hal Jordan would likely remain the lead hero.


That is why -I’m just going to say- the success of that cartoon show and the 2011 film was not in a John Stewart fan’s best interest, regardless of whether we’d get to see him in some capacity or not. What was in our best interest is exactly what happened. Now, John Stewart has a legitimate great chance of being THE Green Lantern next time Warner Bros. decides to use Green Lantern in a meaningful role in animation or film. Indeed, most people who address the current state of Green Lantern in those sectors of entertainment are telling Warner Bros. they want a reboot featuring John Stewart as the lead.

The people who I say are not true fans of John Stewart are people who support the structure Geoff Johns built, and who DO NOT want to see John Stewart headline the franchise. They are people who are okay with John Stewart being around, and who don’t openly blast the character (unlike the people who are overtly against him), but who are only okay with him so long as he doesn’t have a better role than Hal Jordan. To me, one cannot be a John Stewart fan yet still wish for his hindrance. To me, one cannot be a John Stewart fan depending only on his relation to another character. Green Lantern isn’t set up to work that way.



To explain that better, I’d like to momentarily consider the Sailor Moon franchise. I don’t think Sailor Mars fans typically want her to usurp Sailor Moon’s position, even though they may like Sailor Mars better, because of her personality, character design, character arc, and so on. Sailor Mars was never meant for that position, and she never organically grew into a role where it was plausible for her to be in that position. These Hal Jordan fans would like for John Stewart to be like Sailor Mars. They may think John Stewart is okay, just as many Sailor Moon fans like Sailor Mars. They may think he has a place, and they may think it’s cool if you like him best. However, in their minds, John Stewart is not meant to be THE Green Lantern, just as Sailor Mars is not meant to be the focus of the Sailor Moon franchise. To them, he is a “secondary character” and that is all he should be. There is a glass ceiling, and he cannot rise above it. To them, maybe if Hal Jordan is really successful, John can enjoy some of that and get a spin off.

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But real John Stewart fans recognize the situation isn’t comparable. John Stewart is no Sailor Mars. Real John Stewart fans recognize that John Stewart is GREEN LANTERN. Real John Stewart fans recognize the character organically grew out of his role as a supporting character a long time ago, to the point where a lot of people think he’s THE Green Lantern. Real John Stewart fans recognize that his profile is higher than Hal Jordan’s, and it’s definitely more respected, seeing as the only thing Hal Jordan has done on any level compared to what John has, is star in a critically panned financial flop of a film.


So, those who like to hold John Stewart in that Sailor Mars category ARE NOT JOHN STEWART FANS, simply on grounds of them not genuinely having John Stewart’s or his fans’ best interests at heart. If John Stewart legitimately steps above Hal Jordan, and they are dissatisfied by that, THEY ARE NOT JOHN STEWART FANS.

Just to clarify, I’m not saying every Green Lantern fan has to be a zealot on one side or the other. I’m sure there are many people who would be welcoming to either Green Lantern, but the individuals in question are not those people. Do not be fooled by the so-called John Stewart fan who appears in an attempt to shut you up if you speak out against the character’s treatment while Geoff Johns was overseeing the franchise, and who then proceeds to tell you why Hal Jordan should be Green Lantern, despite financial bombs. No matter what they say, these individuals do not care about what is best for the John Stewart character, nor do they have the best interests of John Stewart fans in mind. If they were really fans, why would they be so against John Stewart’s advancement, be so blind or apathetic to his mistreatment during the Johns years, and take such offense when someone mentions it?

I think this why i am becoming more of or have become more of blue marvel fan recently then green lantern or john stewart fan.
I maybe HAVE BECOME MORE OF a fan of ICON then john stewart at this point.
They could be tie however,hard to say still.

I have already become more of a marvel fan again anyway recently.

To some john will always be seen as a backup or replacement.

That's why i am becoming a little bit more of a fan of original superheros that are really powerful then those that are just backups and really powerful,black or white etc....

I realize overtime superheros that start out as backup's or replacements but still have the same title is always seen by some as not as good or not the real one.

John stewart join another group briefly called the darkststars and had another title.
Maybe he should have just stayed with THEM.

John stewart is still a great character,so i am still sticking with him as one of my top favorites,but he is not at top top any more,but all this talk i hear OR READ from some saying that john is not a true green lantern etc.. just makes me want to be more of a fan of a few other superheros that are really powerful,AND have a more independent or independent and original origin LIKE some of the ONES I just mention above.


I guess john stewart may not show up as green lantern in the big screen after all.
Anyway i never thought i would rather see a blue marvel movie or maybe even icon movie before a john stewart movie now.
Wow things have changed.

Blue marvel or the new captain universe may show up on the big screen or small sceen in live action before wb/dc puts out a john stewart movie or even him showing up at all in live action.

Heck i read or heard they were going to kill john stewart off,and for me that made things abit worse.
Of course dc said no,so it's hard to say if they really were going to do it or not.
Anyway he is not treated as badly as before in comics under Geoff john's writing but still some of the damage for me was done.






Note- i started out as dc fan when i was really young because i knew less a about marvel,but over time i became more of a marvel fan,but i stop buying comics for while and lost track,so i did not know what was going on in marvel and dc .

The justice league cartoon with john stewart overtime made ME more of fan of dc again and tie TO marvel,but recently i started to become a little bit more of a DC fan mainly because of john stewart.

SINCE i lost track what marvel was doing i only caught up abit recently and i realized what they have done and still doing so i changed my mind recently again,and now i am more of a marvel fan again.

The superheros/characters in marvel on average just interest me abit more again now.

Anyway to read comments what others think open link below.

http://greenlantern.co/disingenuous-john-stewart-fans-july-2014-solicitations/
 
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