All of the Eternals minus Ikaris and Sersi are mid 40s to early 50s actors. It's a aesthetic choice on the director's part to make them older because she obviously wants them to feel regal and larger-than-life. The Eternals are essentially gods and they want them to feel mature and world weary
No. They just
don't care as it should be. Scott Lang's Ant-Man is played by a man in his 40s (
correction he is now 50yo!) so is Wasp or is there some convenient loophole for that you concocted to mental gymnastics your way out of?
Mystique on the other hand is basically a shape-shifting gymnast with extreme agility, it's a physically demanding role that the actress will need to be able to play for a very long time. 32-42 is fine for Raven
So? She does stunts all the time in Westworld what are you talking about? Also Mystique from the comics is more of a espionage femme fatale who is good with a gun not a "shape-shifting gymnast" like she was in the Singer films. So if they go that route it would require less stunt work anyway.
You seem to be grasping to make this ageist argument work which is genuinely surprising given your politically correct method to casting in other respects.
Of course I realize the unfair age disparity in Hollywood between men and women regarding who gets "leading action roles" but I'm obviously not singling out female actresses, it applies to all mutants whose physical prowess is important.
You wouldn't cast a 52 year old as Wolverine starting off because it'd be much more difficult for him to maintain the physique and physicality required for the role longterm, even Jackman himself said the Wolverine regime was wearing him down and he was only in his mid 40s at that point. Jackman was 30 when he was cast
Hugh Jackman looked the most like his character at the tail end of his tenure and again
Dwayne Johnson is 47 not to mention Thandie doesn't even look a day over 35 and is a natualy fit woman so I fail to see your "can't keep in shape" argument.
Not only that but do you think these actors do 90% of their stunts? It is more sound logic to not have them do as many for insurance reasons. Even then she has proven to be down for it so why again shut her out outside of her age?
Luckily, Sarah Finn and Kevin Feige are not shallow enough to disqualify an actress because she doesn't turn men on when she reads for the role. This is a casting audition not a Victoria's Secret Catwalk. They don't cast characters based on how close they resemble a single artist's interpretation of a character -- and all characters, especially female, are/were sexualized in comic books. Jean is drawn like that most of the time because most female characters are drawn with those generic traits. Even Moira MacTaggert in Jim Lee's art is model-like.
I never claimed to be this pillar of virtue with my thought process involving casting. Sometimes being more or less traditionally attractive is a part of (not the only part of) getting a role. Do you believe that Scarlett Johansson's looks weren't at all taken into account when casting her as BW? Because your dreaming if so.
Both film and comics are visual mediums.
To say suggesting having similIar physical traits to a character is as shallow as suggesting an actress from a popular series because she has red hair and being within a certain age restriction you have arbitrarily given as the main reason to hire an actor
This is why no casting director with sense ever takes this into account and why actors who look nothing like the stereotypically portrayed characters are frequently cast. Jean's model "sex appeal" is hardly a defining trait like say Emma Frost, Poison Ivy, Selina Kyle or even Raven Darkholme.
This is a terrible way to measure how qualified an actress is for a role, yet you say
I have a problematic mindset.
"She's not hot enough for Jean!" Is neIt is going to be something you hear in the auditioning process, certainly not at Marvel Studios? And it certainly won't make them dismiss an amazingly talented, beautiful actress. Feige's top, second or even last priority isn't going to be whether Jean excites the brothers in the room.
The same could be said for "She's too old for Raven!"
Sidenote: Marvel are definitely not starting them as teenagers no matter how much you try to bend reality and logic to make it so. The Russos themselves talked about how they have pitched story ideas about "Giant Size" Claremont stories they want to adapt as soon as they get the rights. I think he takes their opions higher than us on message boards.
As far as the main topic goes even within the context of the comics they say she is very attractive. it is apart of her cannon that she stopped every one of her male teammates in their tracks the moment they laid eyes on her. I was not mentioning thst for chauvinistic reasons. This is actually canonical!
It was not just because she was the only female either because even when Storm, Polaris and eventually Rogue showed up they still all talked about their crushes on Jean and how beautiful she was. Not to mention Logan, the new member, also developed a crush and her too. I think sexuality was certainly apart of her history. The Dark Phoenix Saga is a coming of age story about Jean taking control of her power as a woman (sexuality included).
Her attractiveness is just as much apart of her character as Emma's maybe even moreso because she's the girl next door who just happens to be a bombshell. She doesn't have this need to shove her sexuality down our throats because she doesn't need to have that validation that Emma or Psylocke for example do.
Even Professor X himself has a canonical crush on Jean Grey because of how strinkingly attractive she is supposed to be! Which is really weird and pervy but true.
I am just telling you that for this character specifically they are saying visually as well as in context of the story she is attractive. So take it up with Lee and Claremont about the objectification part. I'm just reporting the news here.
Amybeth McNulty is a beautiful young actress with a promising future and she would be a great choice for a younger version of the character. She could easily grow into the role over the course of 10+ year journey. That's what I'm personally looking for in my X-Men in the MCU.
I dissagree I think she is rather one note and hammy in her acting. Never said she wasn't beautiful either so please don't insinuate I am trying to slight this little girl. I would prefer someone with more range than I have seen from her though.
You prefer Jim Lee/90s Jean and that's perfectly fine too but understand that Jean Grey does not begin and end with Jim Lee's interpretation which you seem to basing your entire critique of who is or isn't qualified
Though I agree with the sentiment in general which is the image people will immediately think of when thinking about this character? Is it the images I shared or yours that are fewer and further between? It's about iconography. With my images you know that is Jean Grey some of yours could easily have been Rachel or Hope Summers. That's the difference.
There are many versions of Jean, not all model bombshells, and they are just as valid. Peyton List is not the strongest actress and certainly not anywhere near as dramatically talented as Amybeth McNulty-- at least from what I've seen of her.
Your missing the point I'm not saying she is not a talented actress just that she doesn't fit the role in two very important ways. Not only does she not look visually enough like her imo but she also doesn't have the acting range either.
The picture of Peyton was just a response to your initial question "how does Jean Grey look?" That was your answer. I think many would agree Jim Lee's Jean Grey is the quintessential look they associate with the character (That or her Phoenix look). So I don't think I'm in the minority wanting that visual.
In the 90s The X-Men was at the height of their popularity so people wanting iconography to be displayed from that era is valid. Especially when we are fresh after the Singer films that largely ignored said iconography and people want another take.
