Resistance: The Fall of Man (threads Merged)

[Danalys]

giant energy beam does not equal muzzle flash. and i wouldn't look to games to teach you about real world lighting.

 

[Mentok]

giant energy beam does not equal muzzle flash. and i wouldn't look to games to teach you about real world lighting.

When the **** did I say a giant energy beam equals muzzle flash?

The videos are full of energy weapons that have no lighting effect on the environment. Just like the fire and the explosions and the earthly weapons.

 

[Danalys]

who are you to dictate the rules of giant energy weapons. ever see a laser light the environment around it? notice how the beam hasn't effected the shadow or tree in that pic anyway. if it was giving off light so much, the shadow would be filled.

 

[Fenrir]

in bright sunshine you can see shadows and wouldn't see a muzzle flash. so your point is?

Like you yourself have said "this isn't bright sunshine" so what relevance does this have with our discussion again?

this isn't bright sunshine by any means but your whole point made no sense at all.

Please, YOU'RE the one who's not making any sense. "You can't see muzzle flash in bright sunshine" even though you could (just watch the shootout scene in Heat), but for argument's sake, let's say we can't, but YOU are the one who's saying that "this isn't bright sunshine by any means". Wait, doesn't that mean that the muzzle flash effects should be there because it isn't bright sunshine? Especially since it looks more like 5 in the evening where there is practically NO EFFECT on the shadows of the guns and the soldiers and the chimera even though there is a BRIGHTER light source over them?

Yes, Danalys, if you only dropped the whole "I am right, you are wrong, your point doesn't make any sense, my point doesn't need to be proved right blah blah" act, maybe we'd get this discussion going somewhere.

if you can't see the difference between the conditions in fear or doom3 and resistance then that's your problem not mine.

How about Far Cry then, dear? Because it is even brighter than Resistance. Why not pop a copy in your PC, aim at the ground and watch the muzzle flash effects in full daytime glory?

 

[Mentok]

who are you to dictate the rules of giant energy weapons. ever see a laser light the environment around it?

Im not dictating anything. Its common sence. Light = Light source = Lighting.

Its not real life. Its a videogame.

Now which game looks more realistic thanks to lighting? HALO2 or RESISTANCE ?

 

[Fenrir]

ever see a laser light the environment around it?

Well d'uh, because a laser isn't as big and dense as muzzle flash, Einstein.

 

[Danalys]

i wasn't actually making a point i was just showing how the fact there where shadows was irrelevent, and considering you put it in oh so special italics you obviously were trying to make a relevent point.

pictures speach loader that words tho.

 

[Danalys]

i wasn't actually making a point i was just showing how the fact there where shadows was irrelevent, and considering you put it in oh so special italics you obviously were trying to make a relevent point.

pictures speak loader that words tho.

 

[Fenrir]

Im not dictating anything. Its common sence. Light = Light source = Lighting.

Its not real life. Its a videogame.

Now which game looks more realistic thanks to lighting? HALO2 or RESISTANCE ?

Haha pwned up:

Liz is going to be pissed when he finds out Halo (of all the games in the world) has better lighting effects (at least as far as muzzle flash) is concerned.

Oh and...Danalys, see that second pic of the Master Chief on the turret? It's from a DAYTIME level.

 

[Mentok]

notice how the beam hasn't effected the shadow or tree in that pic anyway. if it was giving off light so much, the shadow would be filled.

Yes, it HAS effected the tree. Play the game and you would know what effect weapons have on ambient lighting of objects.

Hell... Just look at the damn pic and you can see the thee surface is being hit by a light source.

The shadow is not filled because the light source is passing out above the tractor... Thus creating the shadow beneath it.

Its not that hard to understand is it?

 

[Mentok]

EDIT DP.

Damn Hype keeps locking up every time I post today

 

[블라스]

My fingers smell a bit like garlic.

 

[THWIP*]

My fingers smell a bit like garlic.

MY LEFT INDEX FINGER SMELLS A BIT LIKE POO...... OH.

 

[Avalanche]

Sheesh. All this over bloody muzzle flash. It's going to have absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever. It's such an insignificant thing.

As for some of the game shots posted above. There is indeed a lot of lighting. I would argue it's not very natural lighting however. Liberties have been taken to make the lighting look pretty.

 

[Mentok]

Character being hit with ambient lighting...

Notice the several different lighting sources...

Displays give off ambient lighting...

Lighting up area...

Notice how the lighting is shown with the player model... IN BRIGHT DAYLIGHT.

 

[블라스]

MY LEFT INDEX FINGER SMELLS A BIT LIKE POO...... OH.

 

[THWIP*]

^

Deep breaths dude.

GUYS, FORGET ABOUT THE FREAKIN' LIGHTING. THE REAL "SORE THUMB" HERE IS THE OBVIOUS LACK OF MULTIPLE TEXTURE LAYERING (LIKE IS PRESENT IN MANY NEXT-GEN TITLES) AND HORRIBLY LOW POLYGON COUNTS ON THE CHARACTER MODELS. I'M SEEING ANYWHERE FROM LATE N64 TO EARLY XBOX MODELS AND TEXTURES, AND THIS IS SUPPOSEDLY FROM A RECENT BUILD.

 

[Mentok]

MY LEFT INDEX FINGER SMELLS A BIT LIKE POO...... OH.

I thought I felt something poke me earlier

 

[THWIP*]

I COULDN'T HELP IT.....MY BUTT WAS ITCHING.

 

[Mentok]

GUYS, FORGET ABOUT THE FREAKIN' LIGHTING. THE REAL "SORE THUMB" HERE IS THE OBVIOUS LACK OF MULTIPLE TEXTURE LAYERING (LIKE IS PRESENT IN MANY NEXT-GEN TITLES) AND HORRIBLY LOW POLYGON COUNTS ON THE CHARACTER MODELS. I'M SEEING ANYWHERE FROM LATE N64 TO EARLY XBOX MODELS AND TEXTURES, AND THIS IS SUPPOSEDLY FROM A RECENT BUILD.

Yeah, I pointed that out before... Its really quite horrible.

 

[Fenrir]

Which one looks better? You be the judge.

 

[THWIP*]

Whoa, supposedly IGN has said the PS3 is pushing 265 times the processing power of the PS2, is that even possible. If so, PS3 would be more powerful than the 360 would it not?

FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR, IT'S MAYBE 265 X MORE POWERFUL THAN MY 'SHARP' CALCULATOR.

 

[THWIP*]

Which one looks better? You be the judge.

THIS HAS TO BE A TRICK, OR JUST A RHETORICAL QUESTION.

 

[Fenrir]

THIS HAS TO BE A TRICK, OR JUST A RHETORICAL QUESTION.

Isn't it obvious?

 

[Avalanche]

Which one looks better? You be the judge.

I actually don't think the second one looks better, if that's what you're implying.

Further, the Resistance shot is close up.