Return of the Jedi special edition ramblings

[JackBauer]

y'know what's funny? what do you suppose was going on in OB1's head when he saw ghost-Hayden in ROTJ?

"Wait a second... The guy turns on everyone who cared about him, destroys the Jedi, turns the universe into a dictatorship, kills who knows how many people... And he gets to spend the afterlife looking young and pretty (though he could use a good haircut)? Damn, I should've joined the Sith. Pays a lot better."

 

[JackBauer]

Penny Arcade rules!

 

[tinister]

Han never stepped on Jabba's tail in the original scene...Jabba didn't have a tail and the original design was more like a fat Chewie that was supposed to be put in in post production. The tail stepping is ******ed, and makes Jabba look like a wuss...The Jabba from ROTJ would have had Han fried that instant for the insult. I know for a fact that the animators had come up with a way for Han to have stepped around him and not step on his tail, but George Lucas thought it was funnier to have him step on the tail.

The Special Edition version of New Hope that I saw - Han clearly steps around behind Jabba - steps up about a foot off the ground (as Jabba's eye bulges and he makes a cartoonish noise). There's even a comidic sound effect while Han does it.

George Lucas is a comedic genius.

 

[Timstuff]

But the replacing Shaw with Christensen thing should be okay, Anakin used the force to change his ghost form to the form when he could finally smell his son's fresh hair.

Uhh... Say what?

y'know what's funny? what do you suppose was going on in OB1's head when he saw ghost-Hayden in ROTJ?

"Wait a second... The guy turns on everyone who cared about him, destroys the Jedi, turns the universe into a dictatorship, kills who knows how many people... And he gets to spend the afterlife looking young and pretty (though he could use a good haircut)? Damn, I should've joined the Sith. Pays a lot better."

That's what I was thinking, LOL.

Seriously, how would Look even be able to tell Hayden is is father? The man he saw was a middle aged man who actually looked old enough to be his dad. If anything, Luke would be thinking "Is he our lost triplet?" What really makes it jarring is that Luke's reaction is the same, even though he's seeing something completely different. It's like one of those silly videos where they take real footage, but then they insert a shot of something in the middle to completely change the meaning. It was just weird and seems all wrong.

 

[Matt]

2004 DVD release

What bothers me is the way Hayden Christensen has a sleezey grin on his face that just screams "Come here little boy, I got some candy".

 

[Timstuff]

Yeah, he looks scary. Sebastian Shaw actually looked like a loving father, but Hayden Christensen is obviously stuck in the "evil Anakin" mode from the prequels.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Yeah, he looks scary. Sebastian Shaw actually looked like a loving father, but Hayden Christensen is obviously stuck in the "evil Anakin" mode from the prequels.

A middle-aged man looking at a 25-ish Luke say fatherly love.

A 25-year old man looking at a 25-ish Luke says gay love.

The POINT of that shot is to show Luke's fathr figure is restored to his glory. It's a father looking proudly on his son. It doesn't work if Anakin is the same age as Luke.

Lucas obviously got too mixed up in the prequels and forgot the original trilogy. Thus the new version with Hayden just doesn't work properly.

 

[SilentType]

But the replacing Shaw with Christensen thing should be okay, Anakin used the force to change his ghost form to the form when he could finally smell his son's fresh hair.

Uhh... Say what?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

That's all kinds of wrong.

 

[Darthphere]

Wow, really? This is getting pathetic. On all sides.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Could you PM me the list of approved, un-pathetic things to talk about plz. Thx.
Is it how Green Goblin is in Spidey's eye on the SM3 poster, or who should play Tony Stark, or what to do about bullies at school or...what?

 

[Darren Daring]

Wait, how does this make sense? Anakin dies, but he's redeemed, so he comes back as the old man he would have been had he never fallen in the lava? This is supposed to be a better bit than returning to his youth? Explain, please.

 

[Darthphere]

Could you PM me the list of approved, un-pathetic things to talk about plz. Thx.
Is it how Green Goblin is in Spidey's eye on the SM3 poster, or who should play Tony Stark, or what to do about bullies at school or...what?

Magic Bullet, Randor, Hooters Pimp, MSN love sessions.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Sounds like you're doing your own version of "We Didn't Start The Fire".

 

[Timstuff]

Wait, how does this make sense? Anakin dies, but he's redeemed, so he comes back as the old man he would have been had he never fallen in the lava? This is supposed to be a better bit than returning to his youth? Explain, please.

He's appearing to Luke, so one would think that he'd appear to him looking like his father as he would have been.

Also, if you look at the two versions of the shot, Shaw looks a whole lot friendlier than his replacement.

 

[Darthphere]

Sounds like you're doing your own version of "We Didn't Start The Fire".

Well now I am.

 

[War Party]

I like Star Wars.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

It's very common in music, when an artist has been around for a long time, to say "I like old Bowie", or "I like Heart before they sold out in the 80's." or "I like Early Stones.", or "I like Bob Dylan before he went electric."

So, I like "Old Star Wars".

 

[War Party]

It's very common in music, when an artist has been around for a long time, to say "I like old Bowie", or "I like Heart before they sold out in the 80's." or "I like Early Stones.", or "I like Bob Dylan before he went electric."

So, I like "Old Star Wars".

I just like Star Wars. Whenever there is a Star Wars thread, people always argue. So I'm just going to say I like Star Wars and leave it at that. Star Wars as a whole.

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

Han stepping on the feared crime-lord, Jabba the Hutt's tail (knowing that he owes him a ton of money and if he doesn't pay up, Jabba will have him killed) is way more egregious/******ed than even solo/greedo.

Imagine that you hadn't paid your rent in 3 months and your landlord came and said "I need the rent within the week or you're evicted."

Would anyone in their right mind step on his foot?

Now replace "landlord" with "Mafia Boss", replace "rent" with "$20,000" and replace "evicted" with "killed". (and "foot" with "ass")

I mean, that scene is proof that there has been an actual mental deterioration for George.
It's not, "ooh, it's fashionable to hate the SE's." or "ooh, nothing could compare with your childhood memories."

That is blatantly ******ed.

So is his beard.

 

[Addendum]

I just like Star Wars. Whenever there is a Star Wars thread, people always argue. So I'm just going to say I like Star Wars and leave it at that. Star Wars as a whole.

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

I just like Star Wars. Whenever there is a Star Wars thread, people always argue. So I'm just going to say I like Star Wars and leave it at that. Star Wars as a whole.

I loved the old ones, but the new ones just have so many holes in them, like Swiss cheese, that it is hard to like them. Do you know what I mean? I feel that if Lucas would've let somebody else direct them/adapt them, they could've been so much better.

 

[War Party]

I loved the old ones, but the new ones just have so many holes in them, like Swiss cheese, that it is hard to like them. Do you know what I mean? I feel that if Lucas would've let somebody else direct them/adapt them, they could've been so much better.

I understand where your coming from. But I'm not a die hard Star Wars fan, mainly casual. I just enjoyed them. I didn't think they were bad or great. Just in the middle of that. Of course I'm talking about Episodes 1-3.

 

[War Party]

This is funny. But it would be more funny if I accidently typed "hole" instead of "whole." I'm confused now. I'm probably missing the entire point of that picture.

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

I understand where your coming from. But I'm not a die hard Star Wars fan, mainly casual. I just enjoyed them. I didn't think they were bad or great. Just in the middle of that. Of course I'm talking about Episodes 1-3.

If you mean die hard by surrounding my whole life in it then no I am not a die hard fan. I like to talk about it though, with people who are interested in looking at the whole picture, rather than just Lucas' view.