Superman Returns Routh interview pulled due to comment on not doing "origin" film

[FanboyX_Returns]

I believe the film has just been out for like a week in Japan and Germany. Before the numbers were updated the last time(before it opened in Japan and Germany) the worldwide total was 348 million, after they got updated (last sunday or monday) it was 360 million. I'm quite sure it will be around 367-368 mil when the World Wide numbers are updated the next time. And it will keep making some money. Just wait until it actually has finished its run in the theatres.

368 would be nice if it would have cost only 100million to make SR but since the budget was some 260million it had to bring in close to 500 - 600 million just to brake even.

As is the WB/Legendary pictures will have a hard time breaking even with this turkey...

Even with strong DVD sales...

 

[The Kid]

If Warner Bros HAD made an origin movie, then Routh would not have been cast in the first place, as he was cast to play the Suprman of the first four movies.

but bosworth, man?

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

is there anything to back up the claim of the article getting pulled? DO you have a link JC?

 

[FanboyX_Returns]

is there anything to back up the claim of the article getting pulled? DO you have a link JC?

Good question...

 

[Steelsheen]

it seems like he hasnt returned to this thread yet.

 

[explode7]

I'm don't mind a restart anyone want to petition???

 

[explode7]

I'm don't mind a restart anyone want to petition???

 

[Tempest19]

The production budget of Superman Returns is 204 mil, not including marketing. No one knows marketing costs.

If you're taking you're information from BOM- remember that they also screwed up on BB- stating it was 180 mil- as well as the production budgets of the Star Wars prequels. Thus, BOM not using the accurate numbers is not unheard of. Believe them if you want, but to me they are not that reliable of a resource- especially after they screwed up with BB and SW prequels. Personally, after those instances I stopped looking to them concerning budgets.

But, believe whoever you want... at the end of the day, everyone- including box office sites- are just speculating. Not like anyone has the WB finance book.

 

[Cosmic]

Hey I'm not one to give SR a hard time. I've been a supporter for a long time. Truly have no reason to talk crap against it, hell I've seen it 4 times in the theatre. Good film, could be great upon future DVD viewings Take this with a grain of salt, dismiss it if it makes you feel better but I'm confident it's credible info.

An entire interview with Brandon Routh from the L.A. Times has been pulled due to what WB reps feel could be perceived as a negative comment.

When asked "Do you believe the POTC sequel is the cause of SR not performing as well at the box office as expected, or was there any other factor?" Routh answered "I don't think a pirate can beat Superman, well maybe if he had some kryptonite. (laughs) The only factor I might consider is that some fans weren't prepared or ready for a returns story."

That's not the comment that scrapped it btw, this is the one that did apparently.

When asked "Would you have preferred an origin based story?" Routh replied "Preferred? I don't know. I would have enjoyed it, I think some fans were wanting or expecting an origin story."

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I think the first question was inappropriate, and the second one was irrelevant, except for the possibility of it being used to stir up the appearance of conflict or controversy. So, I can understand why someone would want the interview thrown out.

I disagree with Routh's comments, but he can't reasonably be expected to know what some or most fans want, or to publicly speculate on what might have made for a better film project than what his employers had planned.

The lack of an origin story really had NOTHING to do with my dislike for this film. Of my friends and family who are lifelong Superman fans in their adulthood, and were interested in this movie to varying degrees, NONE of them had any strong opinions regarding the lack of an origin.

I don't remember there ever being that much of a fuss, even here on these boards over the origin. It always seemed to me that the main issues were Superman's relationship with Lois, the mystery of the child, Superman's reasons for leaving and returning, the portrayal of Luthor, and of course, the costume. So, let's just be honest and admit that the movie didn't work. Because Bryan Singer never will. Don't blame comics fans for this film's failure.

 

[Tempest19]

In my opinion the movie did work- and I am being honest. I loved the film. 9/10. In my mind, Singer has nothing to admit other than that some people liked it while others didn't.

 

[buggs0268]

Superman 1 was the best an origin story could possibly be. At least until Metropolis showed up and it turned goofy.

Anyways, I'm glad this wasn't an origin movie. I'm tired of seeing Krypton explode.

Plus, they got to keep Brando, so it was awesome.

Metropolis showed up and it turned goofy? He was just showing Metropolis to be like New York, and the fast paced lifestyle that New York was back then. I don't see anything goofy about the Metropolis scenes at all except for Otis, who Donner had to tone down as he knew kids would be seeing this, and parents would be dropping the kids off at the theater for Saturday matinees. He even is quoted somewhere as saying that Puzos script had Luthor and his henchmen being very homicidal, and he had to tone it down while still making them villians because of the kids in the audience.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Hey I'm not one to give SR a hard time. I've been a supporter for a long time. Truly have no reason to talk crap against it, hell I've seen it 4 times in the theatre. Good film, could be great upon future DVD viewings Take this with a grain of salt, dismiss it if it makes you feel better but I'm confident it's credible info.

An entire interview with Brandon Routh from the L.A. Times has been pulled due to what WB reps feel could be perceived as a negative comment.

When asked "Do you believe the POTC sequel is the cause of SR not performing as well at the box office as expected, or was there any other factor?" Routh answered "I don't think a pirate can beat Superman, well maybe if he had some kryptonite. (laughs) The only factor I might consider is that some fans weren't prepared or ready for a returns story."

That's not the comment that scrapped it btw, this is the one that did apparently.

When asked "Would you have preferred an origin based story?" Routh replied "Preferred? I don't know. I would have enjoyed it, I think some fans were wanting or expecting an origin story."

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Routh has a point there. The biggest source of b***hing in my opinion has developed because people were split on how they wanted the Superman movie to be done and didn't get the movie they wanted. We had people who jumped on board to the Superman II sequel that we got. We had people who wanted a Batman Begins styled restart with a new origin. We had people who wanted a restart by no orign. We even had people who wanted Smallville the Movie.

 

[The Kid]

I skip all of otis' parts when I watch stm now.

 

[super85]

368 would be nice if it would have cost only 100million to make SR but since the budget was some 260million it had to bring in close to 500 - 600 million just to brake even.

As is the WB/Legendary pictures will have a hard time breaking even with this turkey...

Even with strong DVD sales...

Again, I didn't say that the BO will end at 368. It will sure make more then Batman Begins 371 million.

 

[IT is Batgirl]

As far as I know, Brandon never did this interview with the LA Times.

 

[Immortalfire]

Please. Zod ? Lex ? Old school. Superman needs young, fresh ideas to grow. Superman does not need any more old school thinking.

The only problem is convincing Bryan "Superman has no life outside the original movies" Singer of that. Because that's his apparent state of mind.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

As far as I know, Brandon never did this interview with the LA Times.

No offense meant but, you have no assocation with where this comes from. It's true, whether you feel it's negative for Routh or not to have said these things. Honestly I don't even know what your opinion is on the said comments. I understand you run that fan site and all... so don't feel I posted info to bash Routh, I'm a fan of his performance in SR. Don't shoot the messenger. As for any who have a doubt all I can say is ask Paradox whether I get info on certain things It's true folks, and I'd be the last person to try and sabotage SR or Routh for that matter. What I posted was said by Routh and the interview was thereby cut.

 

[The Kid]

I think routh is jealous of Christian bale. Who agrees?

 

[LostSon88]

How do ya' figure?

 

[The Kid]

Bale's not trying to play keaton's batman.

 

[BULLITT]

Only an idiot would pay money to see an origin story..AGAIN!

 

[buggs0268]

I kind of tend to agree. Is there anyconfirmation that that quote is what got the interview pulled? I am not doubting that this may not have happened, but I would just like to see if there is any confirmation either way.

 

[Showtime]

Well at this point there is no evidence that the interview is true, and no proof that the interview is false.

 

[Showtime]

Only an idiot would pay money to see an origin story..AGAIN!

Come on man, it is a matter of taste, some want to see an origin and some don't. None are idiots.

 

[FanboyX_Returns]

The production budget of Superman Returns is 204 mil, not including marketing. No one knows marketing costs.

If you're taking you're information from BOM- remember that they also screwed up on BB- stating it was 180 mil- as well as the production budgets of the Star Wars prequels. Thus, BOM not using the accurate numbers is not unheard of. Believe them if you want, but to me they are not that reliable of a resource- especially after they screwed up with BB and SW prequels. Personally, after those instances I stopped looking to them concerning budgets.

But, believe whoever you want... at the end of the day, everyone- including box office sites- are just speculating. Not like anyone has the WB finance book.

The reported marketing budget was around 50-60 million so like I said the total budget when you include marketing was 260million or so... give or take a million.
Double that, and thats the number you need to get in order for the film to break even.. Remember all movies split the theater ticket money in half with the theaters which play the movies.
So if the movie makes 380m world wide then it lost a close 200million...
Even with strong dvd sales they will not break even because the WB would have to pump a good 20-40million to market the dvd which will put them even deeper in the red.

They can say what they want but they won't break even on this thing...