The Dark Knight Rumoured - Batman has a new ride?

[Keyser Sushi]

Well it's especially glaring that mi2 ripped off hitchcock's notorious, and was an overly dumbed-down plot due to the fact that mi1 was actually intelligent and intricately plotted. meanwhile, the dumb downed plot was STILL filled with totally illogical stuff and it didn't help that the bike sequence and car crash had glaring physical impossibilities.

And I REALLY loved when ethan's bike kept changing from off-road to street tires.

Preach it.

Here's what a Batman movie would be like if John Woo directed it.

1.) The arms deal sequence at the beginning would culminate in a mexican standoff where everyone is holding two guns in each hand pointed at the people on either side of them.

2.) The big showdown between Batman and the Joker would involve a car chase where Joker, in a Jokermobile, would be driving at top speed directly toward the tumbler, and Batman, in the tumbler, would be driving at top speed toward the Jokermobile. They would both hit ramps at the same time, go into a perfect arc, just before the cars collided in midair, Batman and Joker would jump out, lock hands, and go into a flaming tussle.

In the middle of this flaming tussle, Joker would grab the batgrapple, fire it off to some unseen anchor point, and swing loose from Batman's grasp. Batman would extend his glide wings.

Joker would be shooting at Batman, Batman would be gliding, and they would be converging toward each other again.

At this point, Batman would pull out two batarangs, one in each hand, and throw them PAST the Joker; they would hit windows, the shattering glass would sever the grapple line (despite the fact that the grapple line must be made of something that would not cut so easily) and Joker would drop to his death.

I would kill everyone in the theater if I had to watch that garbage.

 

[Hunter Rider]

The Killer,Hard Boiled,Bullet In the Head and a Better Tomorrow are nothing like that at all

 

[Keyser Sushi]

The Killer,Hard Boiled,Bullet In the Head and a Better Tomorrow are nothing like that at all

Doesn't matter. M:I2 should have been nothing like that at all, but it was exactly like that. And it's a shame because I liked Face/Off, but then I saw M:I2 and it was like the same exact movie but with Tom Cruise.

And I'm sure that if he made a Batman movie, it's what he'd do.

After all, it's a comic movie, Batman's an action hero... STYLIZED ACTION, HERE WE COME!

 

[Hunter Rider]

Doesn't matter. M:I2 should have been nothing like that at all, but it was exactly like that. And it's a shame because I liked Face/Off, but then I saw M:I2 and it was like the same exact movie but with Tom Cruise.

And I'm sure that if he made a Batman movie, it's what he'd do.

After all, it's a comic movie, Batman's an action hero... STYLIZED ACTION, HERE WE COME!

It does matter,The US wanted a new action style of movie after years of the blundering big men to excite fans...Woo was making awesome movies out in Hong Kong that had action,story,heart and good acting

They brought him to the US gave him mediocre scripts and asked him to design kickass action sequences which is what he gave them

Give him a great script like he had in Hong Kong and he'll knock it out the park and as for MI-2 i don't agree with Ronny or you but im sure all 3 of us don't give a damn what the other thinks as far as who enjoyed what goes

 

[Keyser Sushi]

It does matter,The US wanted a new action style of movie after years of the blundering big men to excite fans...Woo was making awesome movies out in Hong Kong that had action,story,heart and good acting

Hrm.

They brought him to the US gave him mediocre scripts and asked him to design kickass action sequences which is what he gave them

And "they" put a gun to his head and told him he *had* to take those jobs?

Give him a great script like he had in Hong Kong and he'll knock it out the park and as for MI-2 i don't agree with Ronny or you but im sure all 3 of us don't give a damn what the other thinks as far as who enjoyed what goes

Doesn't matter. A director who makes crappy movies just for the paycheck is not a guy I want going anywhere near a film I care about.

And you're right, I don't give a damn who enjoyed what.

But I *do* know what's good, and I very much give a damn about that.

 

[DeFett]

They brought him to the US gave him mediocre scripts and asked him to design kickass action sequences which is what he gave them

I remember hearing that in MI2 the script was written around the action scenes.

 

[Hunter Rider]

And "they" put a gun to his head and told him he *had* to take those jobs?

No he was trying to make a living for him and his family,the pittance they get paid in China compared to America meant he had a chance to give his family stability that's why he took the jobs in the US

Doesn't matter. A director who makes crappy movies just for the paycheck is not a guy I want going anywhere near a film I care about.

And you're right, I don't give a damn who enjoyed what.

But I *do* know what's good, and I very much give a damn about that.

already covered the first part above

Again this is all what you think and irrelevant to the point of who liked what and what you think is good is merely that nothing more or less

 

[Hunter Rider]

I remember hearing that in MI2 the script was written around the action scenes.

Yep Ive heard that as well and it's probably true,Paramount wanted him to make them the kind of sequences that would pull in huge audiences and he did that

 

[Keyser Sushi]

No he was trying to make a living for him and his family,the pittance they get paid in China compared to America meant he had a chance to give his family stability that's why he took the jobs in the US

So what you said before was incorrect? "They" didn't "bring" him to the US? "They" didn't make him make those bad movies? He chose to.

I hate "them." In one way or another "they" are responsible for everything. Whoever "they" are.

already covered the first part above

Yes you did. And the fact remains, bad movies made for paychecks. I don't fault him for that, but the fact remains that if he was asked to do a Batman movie, it would be because "they" wanted a big dumb action movie. He would likely do it just for the paycheck, and we would get a crappy Batman movie.

Again this is all what you think and irrelevant to the point of who liked what and what you think is good is merely that nothing more or less

What I think is good is more than opinion. Sure, it is my opinion, but it is based on more than just itself. It is based on a thorough understanding of storytelling, photography, and art... and that makes my "opinion" worth more than many.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Yep Ive heard that as well and it's probably true,Paramount wanted him to make them the kind of sequences that would pull in huge audiences and he did that

That is a bad way to make a movie... but studios are like that. I think it's changing now, since attendance at movies has gone down, they're trying to make decent movies again, with stories, but sheesh... for a while there, they were just going nuts with the crappy movies.

And rolling in the money.

 

[Hunter Rider]

So what you said before was incorrect? "They" didn't "bring" him to the US? "They" didn't make him make those bad movies? He chose to.

I hate "them." In one way or another "they" are responsible for everything. Whoever "they" are.

No what i said was they brought him to the US to give them some kickass new action,he took the offer because it was good money and just because you didn't like the movies he made there doesn't make them bad movies or mean he hated them all

Yes you did. And the fact remains, bad movies made for paychecks. I don't fault him for that, but the fact remains that if he was asked to do a Batman movie, it would be because "they" wanted a big dumb action movie. He would likely do it just for the paycheck, and we would get a crappy Batman movie.

No,he's made his money and went back to Hong Kong to make personal projects turning down several big US action movie offers,if he came back for a Batman movie it would be on a joint terms of making a good movie where the script would be more than action sequences the way he had it in HK
It's all irrelevant as he isn't gonna be directing any Batman movie

What I think is good is more than opinion. Sure, it is my opinion, but it is based on more than just itself. It is based on a thorough understanding of storytelling, photography, and art... and that makes my "opinion" worth more than many.

That type of stuff just amuses me

 

[Keyser Sushi]

No what i said was they brought him to the US to give them some kickass new action,

There you go again, who are "they" and how did they "bring" him here? Was it a kidnapping or did they order him from a catalog?

he took the offer because it was good money

Obviously.

and just because you didn't like the movies he made there doesn't make them bad movies

Let me clarify something. I'm not saying they're bad movies because I didn't like them. I didn't like them, because they were bad movies. There is a difference. My opinion is based on the quality of the movie, not the other way arouhd.

or mean he hated them all

When did I say he did?

No,he's made his money and went back to Hong Kong to make personal projects turning down several big US action movie offers,if he came back for a Batman movie it would be on a joint terms of making a good movie where the script would be more than action sequences the way he had it in HK

Are his other action sequences as ridiculous as the ones in the American movies?

It's all irrelevant as he isn't gonna be directing any Batman movie

And I thank Christ for that. There is a time and a place for goofy action, but not in my Batman movie. Had enough of that with Mr. West and his young ward.

That type of stuff just amuses me

It amuses me, too. But it's true. When a movie is good, I know. When it isn't, I know. I'm not fickle like other people. When I go see a movie, I *want* to like it. When I don't, I always have legitimate reasons.

You'll notice I've never said, "X movie sucks, it was bad, I didn't like it, IMO it was just horrible. Hahaha."

That's not my style. I give REASONS for everything. Most people do not, and cannot.

 

[Hunter Rider]

There you go again, who are "they" and how did they "bring" him here? Was it a kidnapping or did they order him from a catalog?

they are mongolian goat herders who sold him for a pair Nike's and three hotdogs to Donald Trump..or Paramount....take your pick,didn't really feel i needed to explain they are a movie studio

Let me clarify something. I'm not saying they're bad movies because I didn't like them. I didn't like them, because they were bad movies. There is a difference. My opinion is based on the quality of the movie, not the other way arouhd.

There you go again with the opinion is fact

Are his other action sequences as ridiculous as the ones in the American movies?

You mean like the tumbler sequence ? yes

It amuses me, too. But it's true. When a movie is good, I know. When it isn't, I know. I'm not fickle like other people. When I go see a movie, I *want* to like it. When I don't, I always have legitimate reasons.

Your reasons mean squat,it's what you like and matters not a jot to anyone else....I <3 the internet

 

[Keyser Sushi]

they are mongolian goat herders who sold him for a pair Nike's and three hotdogs to Donald Trump..or Paramount....take your pick,didn't really feel i needed to explain they are a movie studio

Yes, but you make it sound as if he was forcibly abducted, which I know is not the case.

There you go again with the opinion is fact

Not at all. Opinion is opinion. Fact is fact.

Opinion: I didn't like Mission: Impossible 2.

Fact: Mission Impossible 2 was a very lousy movie.

Ergo: I have a low opinion of M:I2 due to the fact that it was crap.

You mean like the tumbler sequence ? yes

I mean as ridiculous as the action in M:I2 or Face/Off (and remember I liked Face/Off)

Your reasons mean squat,it's what you like and matters not a jot to anyone else....I <3 the internet

Film is an art, and art is not entirely subjective.

There's a reason why what Green Day does is good, and why Milli Vanilli were garbage. It's a fact that Britney Spears is a talentless ****e and a fact that Amy Lee is both a great singer and a good songwriter.

There's a reason Pablo Picasso is considered a great artist, and a reason why Bob Ross, whom I think was a super person, is not.

There is equally a reason why Ed Wood was a horrible filmmaker, and a reason why Alfred Hitchcock is so well-loved.

Art is not subjective. Some art is good, some art is bad, and that is entirely outside the realm of opinion.

Just because art is bad, doesn't mean you can't like it. If you love dogs playing poker, more power to you. They're funny. But it ain't art.

Just as long as you understand that, we're cool.

 

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8741

"An anonymous scooper wrote in with the following: "I know guy named John Brickey here in Louisville, KY. He's one of those guys who builds motorcycles. He and his little company are building a bike codenamed 'Sidewinder.' He showed me a picture of it, unfinished, on his camera phone and told me that after building a bike for a WB executive in California, that they may want to speak to him about building the Sidewinder, or some derivative thereof, for the upcoming movie 'The Dark Knight.' The bike looks a lot like something Bats would ride.""


Sounds cool...

Intresting the first appearence of The Batcycle

 

[Hunter Rider]

EDIT*

Rather than turn this circular back to the batbike idea and why it sucks/rules

Basically i think that Nolan earned enough faith from BB to at least warrant ppl waiting and seeing how he executes the idea before ranting and rampaging

It has it's pros and cons but like most ideas it can be made to work given the right execution

 

[Tojo]

i think a bat-bike is a bit teh ghey, but Nolan cld make it look alright i guess. I prefer to keep it simple. Batman and the tumbler.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Don't worry, I'll be friends with you.

Because I agree.

Just when I thought I liked you guys! *throws up hands in frustration*

 

[Ronny Shade]

Preach it.

Here's what a Batman movie would be like if John Woo directed it.

1.) The arms deal sequence at the beginning would culminate in a mexican standoff where everyone is holding two guns in each hand pointed at the people on either side of them.

2.) The big showdown between Batman and the Joker would involve a car chase where Joker, in a Jokermobile, would be driving at top speed directly toward the tumbler, and Batman, in the tumbler, would be driving at top speed toward the Jokermobile. They would both hit ramps at the same time, go into a perfect arc, just before the cars collided in midair, Batman and Joker would jump out, lock hands, and go into a flaming tussle.

In the middle of this flaming tussle, Joker would grab the batgrapple, fire it off to some unseen anchor point, and swing loose from Batman's grasp. Batman would extend his glide wings.

Joker would be shooting at Batman, Batman would be gliding, and they would be converging toward each other again.

At this point, Batman would pull out two batarangs, one in each hand, and throw them PAST the Joker; they would hit windows, the shattering glass would sever the grapple line (despite the fact that the grapple line must be made of something that would not cut so easily) and Joker would drop to his death.

I would kill everyone in the theater if I had to watch that garbage.

HOW IS THAT BAD??!!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Spider-Fan83]

a bike would be more practical for getting round without make such a big scene, but, batman on a bike just doesn't have the same feel as a batmobil, he needs something in between, something like this design might work

Spoiler

BTW:
robins bike from B&R wasn't that bad, it did look kinda cool,

 

[Retroman]

Well you know it can be done, but technicaly its not that easy since it mostly would have to be cg, and the challenge is to make it look as real as possible. On the other hand there is the scene in BB in which batman is being pulled down by a mob of fear gassed people and he grapples himself up and it looks fantastic, you even see him going away and a guy falling off batman as flies up,( I think that scene looked pretty much like the pic you posted but from behind) so if we get more scenes like that in TDK it would be great.

Yeah i'd just like one ellaborate Batman swings-through-Gotham-to-stop-villain rope scene.t: They could CG with real background shots. I was surprised to hear that the final shot of Batman was CG so audiences can be fooled into thinking that its real.

Now you're talking... but it seems to me that Nolan is using the cape/glider to serve the function that in the comics is normally reserved for the 'rope'. That is to say, the grapple gun get’s Nolan’s Batman up, but it is the cape that allows him to move through the air from building to building.

Well he can't always rely on the cape/gilder as a few scenes in BB showed.He'll need to get out the old rope every now and then.

Intresting the first appearence of The Batcycle

I love this design.

Spoiler

BTW:
robins bike from B&R wasn't that bad, it did look kinda cool,

You were wise to use spoiler tags.he het:

 

[BatScot]

Intresting the first appearence of The Batcycle

No, this was the first...

*** shivers ***

 

[Pythenis]

^^^WICKED




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I like what appears to be a little Bat insignia cut out of the (not sure) but looks like the oild filter cover on the side..

 

[Silver Souper]

A few things I'd like to throw out here:

1. Applied Sciences wasn't just for storage of prototype military gadgets - he also mentions consumer products - which would cover motorcycles, no? I don't see a problem with Bruce getting it from him.

2. There's a pratical need for something more streamlined than the Tumbler - the Narrows for starters. The place is likely a mess and...well, it got it's name for a reason. My point here is - Nolan likes everything to have a function other than to look cool, so if there is a motorcycle being added to Batman's arsenal, it'll be for a purpose.

Admittedly, I'm also for this for a purely shallow reason - Bale + motorcycle = happy ovaries!

well argued and funny. welcome to the Hype!

 

[Bale]

^^^WICKED




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Now thats great, I love it. Very powerful and hardcore like the Tumbler, hope there is a bike in the sequel, it should be as hardboiled as the Tumbler.

THIS One is perfect !