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Some in here have mentioned that there should be a BW movie; isn't it possible it would end up just like Electra?
 
Some in here have mentioned that there should be a BW movie; isn't it possible it would end up just like Electra?
I guess, if instead of writing a script they just smeared some **** on paper and told the cast to read it
 
Why would TA2 become another phenomenon....?

TA1 works as a "phenomenon" because it's new. It's unique. First time the crossover has ever been attempted. But now, the novelty of that has worn off, and it's no longer going to be a big deal to see the characters crossover and join up again.

Avengers 2 will be a franchise film, not an "event."

Well, what would Star Wars be in your opinion? The whole damn trilogy was a phenomenon, I can see the same happening with the Avengers, except even bigger due to the solo films
 
I think Marvel is going to want TA2 in theaters fast to make more of this kind of money. I think the films in-between TA and TA2 are set. We'll see IM3 and Thor next year and CA2 in 2014. Assuming TA2 comes out in 2015, I'd imagine getting Thor out in summer 2016 (as it'll have been 2.5 years since Thor 2) will be the next one. That's also a good summer to introduce as one of the smaller August entries a SHIELD film of some sort. It doesn't have to be as big in scope as TA or a Thor movie and instead be made for probably around $100 million and be a spy-actioner starring ScarJo, Renner and Jackson.

Then, I imagine CA3 and another new character to get their own film in 2017 (possibly Hulk again or someone introduced freshly in TA2). Just my speculation on how that will play out.


I think it's silly if Marvel just chooses to make strictly sequels before TA2(Like they have planned so far), instead of movies about new heroes that could be added to the roster. Heck, even if the new heroes aren't in TA(Dr. Strange, Namor, Iron Fist), they should still have their time to shine.
 
I agree with that sentiment. Ant-man and Black Panther both definitely come to mind as well as Heroes For Hire and Doctor Strange. Captain Marvel would also do wonders for introducing the Kree, Ronan, the Skrulls, and eventually Ms. Marvel. If they're going cosmic with this stuff then we should definitely see a Captain Marvel movie or at least an appearance down the road.

Maybe Nova to introduce the Nova Corps. with an appearance from the Guardians of The Galaxy.
 
I think it's silly if Marvel just chooses to make strictly sequels before TA2(Like they have planned so far), instead of movies about new heroes that could be added to the roster.
I'm hoping/assuming that's exactly what the mystery movie in 2014 is.
 
Some in here have mentioned that there should be a BW movie; isn't it possible it would end up just like Electra?

I think it's a false notion that women can't lead action movies unless they're in B-movies and wearing skimpy outfits--and BW's already halfway there on the latter anyway ;) --but can I just point out The Hunger Games, Salt and even Kick-Ass for that matter?

I think we'll see The Avengers 2 before Marvel would make that film, but I don't see why having a Black Widow film in 2015/6 or even a SHIELD movie that splits the lead between her, Renner and Jackson would be an Elektra problem unless it's just an awful script. BW stole quite a few scenes in TA, so she has audience credibility already. Just a thought.
 
I'm hoping/assuming that's exactly what the mystery movie in 2014 is.

What, The Avengers 2? I hope not, seems far too soon to me.

I agree with that sentiment. Ant-man and Black Panther both definitely come to mind as well as Heroes For Hire and Doctor Strange. Captain Marvel would also do wonders for introducing the Kree, Ronan, the Skrulls, and eventually Ms. Marvel. If they're going cosmic with this stuff then we should definitely see a Captain Marvel movie or at least an appearance down the road.

Maybe Nova to introduce the Nova Corps. with an appearance from the Guardians of The Galaxy.

I can't believe I forgot to say Black Panther!

Yeah, Marvel said they'd be going cosmic for Phase 2 yet two of their planned franchises will be earth-based. They've already introduced Thanos so they need to get the ball rolling with Captain Marvel, also the Guardians of the Galaxy and Nova Corps like you said.
 
Some in here have mentioned that there should be a BW movie; isn't it possible it would end up just like Electra?

Heavens no! It could end up like this gem.

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Some in here have mentioned that there should be a BW movie; isn't it possible it would end up just like Electra?

If they lent her out to another studio maybe. Marvel Studios has yet to put out a POS.
 
Let's hope so. It really should be more than one movie, though.
Well...one movie could mean more than one character. *crossing fingers for Heroes for Hire* :woot:

But seriously, overcrowding is a major risk with these movies. I don't think they should add more than 1 or 2 new Avengers per flick. I think in Cap 2, since we know Cap will still be working with SHIELD, they could introduce one or two SHIELD agents who are future Avengers (Danvers, please) and set up them becoming those Avengers in TA2. Then you add to that whoever the new recruit would be from the 2014 Mystery Movie, and you've got plenty of new blood, imo.
 

Well...one movie could mean more than one character. *crossing fingers for Heroes for Hire* :woot:

But seriously, overcrowding is a major risk with these movies. I don't think they should add more than 1 or 2 new Avengers per flick. I think in Cap 2, since we know Cap will still be working with SHIELD, they could introduce one or two SHIELD agents who are future Avengers (Danvers, please) and set up them becoming those Avengers in TA2. Then you add to that whoever the new recruit would be from the 2014 Mystery Movie, and you've got plenty of new blood, imo.

I'd be happy with Black Panther, Wasp, and Ant-Man/Giant-Man being added to the roster. I'd save Ms.Marvel and Vision for the third.
 
I think they should focus on using the success of Avengers to encourage people to give other, lesser known characters a try. "From the Studio That Brought You The Avengers" is a good sell right now.
 
I think it's a false notion that women can't lead action movies unless they're in B-movies and wearing skimpy outfits--and BW's already halfway there on the latter anyway ;) --but can I just point out The Hunger Games, Salt and even Kick-Ass for that matter?

I think we'll see The Avengers 2 before Marvel would make that film, but I don't see why having a Black Widow film in 2015/6 or even a SHIELD movie that splits the lead between her, Renner and Jackson would be an Elektra problem unless it's just an awful script. BW stole quite a few scenes in TA, so she has audience credibility already. Just a thought.

Haywire was pretty good as well.
 
Question: Did she ever actually use her "Widow's Bite" weapon? They showed it in the pre-battle montage, but I dont remember if she used it.

Also, I think a "Shield" movie might work. It could have BW, Fury, Hawkeye, Maria Hill, and one or two more. They could flash back to the origins of shield through the ages (Imhotep, da Vinci, Howard Stark) like in the limited series. Maybe throw in a Winter Soldier tease for a future Cap sequel.

Just spitballin here of course.

Actually I guess SHIELD is an ongoing monthly at this point. My bad.
 
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I think they should focus on using the success of Avengers to encourage people to give other, lesser known characters a try. "From the Studio That Brought You The Avengers" is a good sell right now.

Guarantee this will happen. Cap and Thor were marketed with the Iron Man tag, but now that Avengers is the most successful, you will DEFINITELY see that name attached to future promotion, especially for movies about lesser known characters.
 
Question: Did she ever actually use her "Widow's Bite" weapon? They showed it in the pre-battle montage, but I dont remember if she used it.

She did, twice against the aliens. They were used as close range almost like a tazer. It was blink and miss it sadly.
 
Salt, at least in broad strokes, is basically a version of the BW origin story. Just watched it last night off the dvr.
 
She did, twice against the aliens. They were used as close range almost like a tazer. It was blink and miss it sadly.

Thanks. I thought maybe she used it while on the glider thingy. Couldnt quite remember tho. A few seconds of her testing it during the montage wouldve helped methinks. Lol talk about nitpicking.

Maybe I'll catch it the third time around.
 
As others have already said; I just loved on how Whedon brought depth to what I had considered a one dimensional character based on her presentation in IM2.

He didn't need a whole lot of time, but he established her back story where it was enough to give you an idea as to how she was brought up, but in the same time, it left you wanting to find out more as well.

And as a previous article mentioned, I loved both the vulnerability and inner strength that Widow presented in this film where you got to see her at both her best and worst moments.

Oh and I appreciate the fact that Whedon didn't use BW as another LI for someone on the group and how she was presented as a group member with significance instead of just being there for the sake of being someone's love partner.

Props to Whedon indeed.
 
As others have already said; I just loved on how Whedon brought depth to what I had considered a one dimensional character based on her presentation in IM2.

He didn't need a whole lot of time, but he established her back story where it was enough to give you an idea as to how she was brought up, but in the same time, it left you wanting to find out more as well.

And as a previous article mentioned, I loved both the vulnerability and inner strength that Widow presented in this film where you got to see her at both her best and worst moments.

Oh and I appreciate the fact that Whedon didn't use BW as another LI for someone on the group and how she was presented as a group member with significance instead of just being there for the sake of being someone's love partner.

Props to Whedon indeed.

I agree. The difference between IM2 and TA are the director and screenplay writer, and while she had a bit less things to do in IM2 than TA you can tell that her problem wasn't the number of minutes she was onscreen, but rather the quality of those scenes she appeared in. Whedon is the perfect man to really bring out the best in BW, and if she ever spun off into her own movie, she has Whedon to thank.
 
I prefer IM2 Black Widow compare to Avenger Black Widow because she was more mysterious, like in this Avengers movie, she really loosen up with everybody.
 
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