Scream 4!!!!! - Part 4

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm aware people curse in high school I was there 7 years ago. And unless it's gotten worse in that time frame, no one curses that much. No one. He just seems set on this one thing and that's just not good.

I actually think Scream 4 kinda got teenage voices right. They curse, they say vile things, they seem desensitized to violence and tragedy, but they don't say **** every 2 seconds to show it like Laurie and her friends did in the Halloween remake.

Lol, alot can change in 7 years. Ever hear a pissed of preppy girl or cheerleader in present time, lol?

I'd say Scream 4 got it right as well in terms of overall the way high school kids talk. However, I have heard girls swear as much as linda did in his remake of halloween. Not every day, but I've heard it.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

I've heard teenage girls get pissed off in modern times, I never hear them talk like a Rob Zombie movie. Never.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Liek I said, it doesn't happen often. With a school filled with over 1200 students, it can happen. Hell, that's the only place I ever heard it happen.

 

[DACrowe]

^^ H2 (2009) may not have been great, but I enjoyed it for the most part. It's his least great film though. His remake was awesome, IMO. One of the really good remakes because it seems he put his heart into it.

I do agree that his first Halloween remake is one of the few good ones. He didn't just try to rehash what was done before (Friday the 13th, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc.) but brought something new to the table. I personally would have preferred if Michael's family were not rednecks, but it worked for his vision and made for an interesting film. The first hour was great. The second hour was okay with a strong ending. Plus the scenes between him and Loomis were amazing. It along with Last House on the Left and Dawn of the Dead were the only horror remakes in the last decade I thought were worthwhile.

But the only thing I liked in H2 were the Bracketts. As Bill said, Annie's death is really sad. The rest of the movie is really sad for how bad that it is, in my opinion.

 

[DACrowe]

^^ H2 (2009) may not have been great, but I enjoyed it for the most part. It's his least great film though. His remake was awesome, IMO. One of the really good remakes because it seems he put his heart into it.

I do agree that his first Halloween remake is one of the few good ones. He didn't just try to rehash what was done before (Friday the 13th, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc.) but brought something new to the table. I personally would have preferred if Michael's family were not rednecks, but it worked for his vision and made for an interesting film. The first hour was great. The second hour was okay with a strong ending. Plus the scenes between him and Loomis were amazing. It along with Last House on the Left and Dawn of the Dead were the only horror remakes in the last decade I thought were worthwhile.

But the only thing I liked in H2 were the Bracketts. As Bill said, Annie's death is really sad. The rest of the movie is really sad for how bad that it is, in my opinion.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Then it's not a majority thing. It's a minority thing it'd seem. The majority voice almost always rules when you're writing. It just seems like Rob writes all his characters with the same voice as he and his friends IMO.

Rob himself seems a very intelligent man, so I'm not saying he's some dummy who goes around cursing all the time, but I literally imagine his friends and he sound like that when they shoot the **** together.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

It along with Last House on the Left and Dawn of the Dead were the only horror remakes in the last decade I thought were worthwhile.

Those are on my list along with the reboot of Friday the 13th (2009), and A Nightmare On Elm Street (2010). I laso liked the remake of TCM (2003). The reboot of FT13th felt more like a sequel.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Can't speak for Last House on the Left's remake, but Dawn of the Dead and TCM were the only worth-while remakes for me.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I also forgot to mention that I also liked The Hills have Eyes remake. He produced the remake and wrote the sequel to the remake. He also produced the Last House On The Left remake.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I'm aware people curse in high school I was there 7 years ago. And unless it's gotten worse in that time frame, no one curses that much. No one. He just seems set on this one thing and that's just not good.

I actually think Scream 4 kinda got teenage voices right. They curse, they say vile things, they seem desensitized to violence and tragedy, but they don't say **** every 2 seconds to show it like Laurie and her friends did in the Halloween remake.

They definitely did. Especailly the technology stuff. Being in high school still, it made the motive of the killer to be even better for me.

We teens curse, but not as much as I heard in his remake of Halloween.

I actually likd parts of the remake. The scene with Michael and Loomis were very well done. And the ending was great too.

Can't speak for Last House on the Left's remake, but Dawn of the Dead and TCM were the only worth-while remakes for me.

I need to see the remake of TCM again, but I liked it from what I remember. And Biel was sooooo fiiiiine.

But the original was disturbing. I'll never forget that dinner scene.

 

[DACrowe]

The TCM remake was a little too slick and glossy for me. It was actually pretty good and R. Lee Emery was hilarious. I just didn't think it brought anything new to the concept and since the original is better...eh. I thought the prequel was awful though.

I recommend The Last House on the Left remake because, while it has a less shocking and brave ending as the original Wes Craven film, the rest of it is a lot better. It captures the horror of the original European folk tale that Craven found from Bergman in an American horror environment, but it is not exploitative, snuff-ish nor does it have the terrible pace-killing comic relief of the original. It is a hard-to-watch, gripping horror movie that features a disturbing but impossible-to-look-away performance by Garret Delahunt. IF you can handle the dark subject matter, it is a strong film.

 

[Man in the Suit]

H2 director's cut is great. Best Halloween since the original.

The remake isn't that good because he had to find a balance between ZombieVision and Carpenterland. It didn't work. That's why the first half is the best.

 

[The Joker]

I can't stomach either of Zombie's Halloween movies. He essentially stripped Michael Myers of everything that made him scary, and turned him into a man mountain white trash killer with long hair.

 

[Doctor Jones]

The TCM remake was a little too slick and glossy for me. It was actually pretty good and R. Lee Emery was hilarious. I just didn't think it brought anything new to the concept and since the original is better...eh. I thought the prequel was awful though.

I recommend The Last House on the Left remake because, while it has a less shocking and brave ending as the original Wes Craven film, the rest of it is a lot better. It captures the horror of the original European folk tale that Craven found from Bergman in an American horror environment, but it is not exploitative, snuff-ish nor does it have the terrible pace-killing comic relief of the original. It is a hard-to-watch, gripping horror movie that features a disturbing but impossible-to-look-away performance by Garret Delahunt. IF you can handle the dark subject matter, it is a strong film.

The Last House remake looked pretty good for a remake when I saw the preview to it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The TCM remake was a little too slick and glossy for me. It was actually pretty good and R. Lee Emery was hilarious. I just didn't think it brought anything new to the concept and since the original is better...eh. I thought the prequel was awful though.

I always liked the remake, but was never better than the original, iMO.

 

[Man in the Suit]

stripped Michael Myers of everything that made him scary

I guess being a robot in HII ('81), being a cult controlled cousin raping killer in part 6, having a CG mask in H20, and fighting Busta Rhymes in HR didn't.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

HR (2002) was an insult to Miachael Meyers.They were still using "The shape" version of Michael in that film with all the karate scenes. H20 should have been it for the old Halloween frnachise.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

First off: Niece raping. At least get the plotline right.

What Michael Myers represented for Carpenter was an eternal fear of evil and the evil in man in general, by putting a face behind that, by giving that face a story of why it's like it is. It takes EVERYTHING that was Michael Myers in Halloween and Halloween 2 which was WRITTEN by John Carpenter, mind you. And just throws it out the window and makes it an entirely different thing. He's no longer Michael Myers. He's an entirely new serial killer being in the Zombie remakes.

 

[Marx]

HR (2002) was an insult to Miachael Meyers.They were still using "The shape" version of Michael in that film with all the karate scenes. H20 should have been it for the old Halloween frnachise.

I think we can all agree on that.

 

[The Joker]

I guess being a robot in HII ('81), being a cult controlled cousin raping killer in part 6, having a CG mask in H20, and fighting Busta Rhymes in HR didn't.

Hyperbole much? His "robotic" stalking of his victims added an air of menace to the character. Coupled with the fact that HII also kept Michael's sadistic playful nature, like letting Nurse Karen kiss his hands thinking it's her boyfriend, or writing Samhain in blood on the classroom chalk board etc.

There was ONE brief shot in H20 of the CGI mask. I would never ever defend H6 or HR. They were trash, but so were Rob Zombie's Halloween movies.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

First off: Niece raping. At least get the plotline right.

What Michael Myers represented for Carpenter was an eternal fear of evil and the evil man in general, by putting a face behind that, by giving that face a story of why it's like it is. It takes EVERYTHING that was Michael Myers in Halloween and Halloween 2 which was WRITTEN by John Carpenter, mind you. And just throws it out the window and makes it an entirely different thing. He's no longer Michael Myers. He's an entirely new serial killer being in the Zombie remakes.

Yes, and Rob knew that which is why he said this is the way he wolud have imagined Michael Myers in the real world. Carpenter's Halloween is still there, and it will never be topped by any of the remakes, and Rob wasn't trying to. I think I even remember Zombie saying that Halloween (1978) was his favorite horror film.

 

[Man in the Suit]

First off: Niece raping. At least get the plotline right.

lol u mad?

Who cares? It was terrible anyway.

Halloween 2 which was WRITTEN by John Carpenter, mind you.

He cared so much that he wrote it when he was wasted.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

My only gripe with H20 is literally two things:

1) They reused Marco Beltrami's Scream score for most parts
2) They couldn't just let it be the end.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

lol u mad?

Who cares? It was terrible anyway.



He cared so much that he wrote it when he was wasted.

I never said the plotline was good, but at least I know what the terrible plotline is.

And that just goes to show that Carpenter has more talent DRUNK and WASTED than Rob Zombie does sober.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

As much as I really like Rob Zombie's Halloween, I also love Halloween 2 (1981) as well. The worst of the franchise is HR (2002).