Scream 4!!!!! - Part 4

[Jennifer Walters]

As for hints about Jill. It's the same once you watch the movie again. You see the little things she does that makes her reveal make sense.

 

[Anjow1060]

There was some subtle hints for Mrs. Loomis. When you look back through the movie you see some hints to her peppered throughout it. Like Debbie Salt saying "It seems to me if the killer is repeating what happened in Woodsboro, then it's possible the killer could be from Woodsboro".

The Stab clip they show with Tori Spelling and Luke Wilson as Sid and Billy is of the scene where Billy tells Sid he had to accept that his mom abandoned him and his dad.

Finally you have Randy and Dewey discussing possible suspects, and Randy saying female killers are perfect because it's sort of against the rules but not really, and cites Mrs Voorhees, a serial killer mom out to avenge her dead son, as being a terrific killer.

It's only when Mrs. Loomis is revealed these little hints become more apparent.

QFT.

- Jow

 

[Anjow1060]

Yeah, I've never seen a 25 dollar new release DVD in a Best Buy. I see 19.99 for DVD and 29.99 for Blu Ray though. Plus there are places other than Best Buy to buy movies you know.

Yeah but the other places around here are ridiculous. Target always runs out of the stock and FYE... just... no. lol And Amazon and all that are too risky in terms of when the movie will get here. I'm an impatient person when it comes to releases. And I don't wanna wait for the mail man. lol

I can get a new DVD for $14.99 if the film performs well in theaters. If it doesn't, the lowest I can get it for is like $23.99 on the day of home release for DVD.

The Blu's are usually $29.99 for good releases and bad movies usually get the $35-39 releases.

Either way - I'll end up buying the movies on Blu when it gets released if not to see if a couple months adds new perspective or just to have the Kirby phone call to save Charlie at my fingertips. I don't think you guys grasp how much I WANT to like this movie. lol

- Jow

 

[GregComicFan]

For the last time. This is not a flop. It's under-performing, sure, but it's not a flop. There was barely any advertising done for this film. So the advertising budget can't be much. Overseas it's already made 9 million past it's budget and it's still got weeks left in theaters.

Horror movies don't flop. They under-perform. It's because they are made for cheap.

I read 'Dellamorte's Box Office Wrap-Up' every week over at Chud.com

http://www.chud.com/49264/dellamortes-box-office-wrap-up/

Check out this week's section on Scream 4. It's a failure.

Scream 4 had a great ending in terms of wrapping up the series; I'm glad this will be the last of the series. Sounds good to me.

 

[Pittman4Two]

This entire series has solidified the fact that Halloween (1978) still is the best slasher movie of all time, in my opinion.

Scream 4 was not near as scary as it should have been. The finale got more laughs than screams during my viewing. Maybe it was supposed to be tongue in cheek but that's not what I call horror.

 

[Anjow1060]

This entire series has solidified the fact that Halloween (1978) still is the best slasher movie of all time, in my opinion.

Scream 4 was not near as scary as it should have been. The finale got more laughs than screams during my viewing. Maybe it was supposed to be tongue in cheek but that's not what I call horror.

- Jow

 

[Wheels]

Yeah but the other places around here are ridiculous. Target always runs out of the stock and FYE... just... no. lol And Amazon and all that are too risky in terms of when the movie will get here. I'm an impatient person when it comes to releases. And I don't wanna wait for the mail man. lol

I can get a new DVD for $14.99 if the film performs well in theaters. If it doesn't, the lowest I can get it for is like $23.99 on the day of home release for DVD.

The Blu's are usually $29.99 for good releases and bad movies usually get the $35-39 releases.

Either way - I'll end up buying the movies on Blu when it gets released if not to see if a couple months adds new perspective or just to have the Kirby phone call to save Charlie at my fingertips. I don't think you guys grasp how much I WANT to like this movie. lol

- Jow

If you want to like a movie that you don't like, then try method acting.

lt's 1999, you're a Star Wars fan, and Episode I just came out.

Andddd GO!

 

[bullets]

I read 'Dellamorte's Box Office Wrap-Up' every week over at Chud.com

http://www.chud.com/49264/dellamortes-box-office-wrap-up/

Check out this week's section on Scream 4. It's a failure.

Scream 4 had a great ending in terms of wrapping up the series; I'm glad this will be the last of the series. Sounds good to me.

Well he's calling it a failure because it didn't meet expectations. I think people are wrong in calling it a flop but then again i don't know market costs or how that all balances out. At this rate I'm just glad we got a good Scream 4 though.

 

[bullets]

Either way - I'll end up buying the movies on Blu when it gets released if not to see if a couple months adds new perspective or just to have the Kirby phone call to save Charlie at my fingertips. I don't think you guys grasp how much I WANT to like this movie. lol

- Jow

I was in the same boat with Scream 3 , when it first came out I was really disappointed but for some reason I've liked it more over the years. I still think it has many flaws but the positive outweighs the negative.

 

[Anjow1060]

I was in the same boat with Scream 3 , when it first came out I was really disappointed but for some reason I've liked it more over the years. I still think it has many flaws but the positive outweighs the negative.

I think it's really weak up until the 3rd act. Once Sidney comes out of hiding the film really picks back up..... a lot. Until then the camp runs too far for me and as much as I love them - Gale and Dewey can't hold up a film on their own.

and I may be (once again) alone in this boat... but I really hated Parker Posey in this movie...... a lot.

- Jow

PS: Speaking of things from the OT that I really don't like... I really hate when they find dead bodies and check pulses. Even in Scream 4 it bothered me. You see someone laying on the ground, stabbed, eyes glassed over and staring at the sky, chest not movie..... that ninja dead. D-E-D = dead. lol

- Jow

 

[Anjow1060]

PS: Speaking of things from the OT that I really don't like... I really hate when they find dead bodies and check pulses. Even in Scream 4 it bothered me. You see someone laying on the ground, stabbed, eyes glassed over and staring at the sky, chest not movie..... that ninja dead. D-E-D = dead. lol

- Jow

And just for the record - THAT is a nitpick.

- Jow

 

[The Joker]

and I may be (once again) alone in this boat... but I really hated Parker Posey in this movie...... a lot.

I hated her, too. She was too comedic, and ruined all the tense scenes she was in with her goofy OTT acting. Can you imagine this character in Scream 1 or 2 because I can't.

Even Craven himself has gone on record saying he thought Scream 3 was a little too goofy and Scooby-Doo.

 

[Mr. Para-Normal]

So.... I'm a troll because I didn't like the film and thus have forfeited my right to post about it? That makes no sense.

You guys can kiss each other all you want rallying for another film and I can't root against one? You guys can blame marketing and remain delusional about why the film didn't perform well and I can't argue against it?

And for the record the blind love that I feel you guys have for this movie is equally as annoying.

- Jow

You do seem like a troll really. And it's hard to take your opinions seriously when you loved Scream 3 the most, which is the worst of the series. Scream 4 was superior to scream 3 in every way possible. Sure it not horror movie scary but it's intense. And the humor wasn't chessey like Scream 3.

 

[DACrowe]

So.... I'm a troll because I didn't like the film and thus have forfeited my right to post about it? That makes no sense.

No you trolled in that post because you came in, said something that was factually wrong ("flop") in a grand sweeping generalization because you hate the movie and then said it deserves too, because you hated it.

That is not criticizing or discussing the movie....that's rooting for it to financially fail and trying to revise the narrative of its performance to suit your interests. In short: trolling.

You guys can kiss each other all you want rallying for another film and I can't root against one? You guys can blame marketing and remain delusional about why the film didn't perform well and I can't argue against it?

I don't blame Rio or the marketing department. I think general audiences are tired of this franchise or have never seen it and don't want to start now. It's been parodied to death and while it tapped into the zeitgeist in 1996, it is apparent that the torture porn generation has rejected the witty self-referential stylings of the Scream series.

If you're saying it did bad because it's a bad movie that seems again inaccurate as it performed bad because not enough people came to see it. Considering it's high user ratings by every measurable means from Cinemascope, Yahoo Users and IMDB, those who saw it (for the most part) liked it a lot. They're just not enough of them who care for the franchise anymore to save it. Oh well.

 

[DACrowe]

This entire series has solidified the fact that Halloween (1978) still is the best slasher movie of all time, in my opinion.

Scream 4 was not near as scary as it should have been. The finale got more laughs than screams during my viewing. Maybe it was supposed to be tongue in cheek but that's not what I call horror.

It was intentionally funny, so is the whole series. I know my friends and I laughed our arses off at Stu at the end of Scream 1 or Mickey's motive in Scream 2. Even the showdown between Cotton and Mrs. Loomis was meant to be amusing and smirk-worthy to a high degree.

All of these films are just as much comedy as horror (more comedy in Scream 3's case, unfortunately), but that is why I appreciate them as they're smarter than almost every slasher film ever made.

I do agree that Halloween (1978) is the best slasher ever made. But Scream (1996) is probably the second. And Scream 4 is better than any film made in the Halloween franchise ever since. 2-6, the 7-8 reboot or the RZ remakes....Scream 4 surpasses them all because it is smarter than all those movies. I'd say in my opinion, but I think that is a fact.

 

[Ponyboy]

Thinking more about Scream 4 after seeing it Sat night, I enjoyed it. It was entertaining. Here's my ratings:

Scream ...... 8
Scream 2.... 7
Scream 3.... 6
Scream 4.... 7

 

[Sith Scotti]

Scream 4 failed because the audience that watched it is now an older audience who are likley to wait to dvd blu ray . Its not this generations hip thing like torture porn , but this has been the best sequel in many peoples eyes who saw this film . It is what it is . Kick Ass had the same reaction last year . People who saw loved it but it did so so at the bo.. Sometimes Box Office has nothing to do with wom believe or not

 

[kickass]

I'm sorry, I know you guys all see something in this movie that apparently the rest of us don't and while you may be a majority on this forum... in the general theater going public... you're the minority. I'm not trying to be a d*ck. I'm just saying... the rest of us didn't think so much of it.

- Jow

Maybe in your world but on planet EARTH where I've read Twitter comments, forum reviewers, Facebook status's, and friends who aren't even loyal Scream followers all say they really liked it, I beg to ask who are all the ppl you're saying hate it?

The problem is we're discussing the film, you're just bashing it. Yes, I get you've already stated why you don't like it - hate it, even - but nag nag nag all you want, we liked it, and dare I say 80% of everyone else liked iot to.

You can refer to the haters on Twitter all you want. Most of them, and I **** you not, are ghetto punks who don't even know or understand the satire or wit that Scream is. Before its release these same ghetto punks would ask "Iz Scream a comedy cus like it don look scurry" or "Yooo Scream 4? I didn even no ther wuz a prt 2 dawg". So don't come at us with that tripe.

A terrible movie does not recieve THAT great of a reaction from the audience all 3 times I've seen it. What's more is everyone else seem to have the same positive reactions in their theater. I can assure you we didn't all go to the same showing in the same city at the same time.

As much as I love Scream 3 - and yes, I do LOVE it, regardless of what anyone says - even I know when a good Scream film beats it. Scream 4 ripped it apart. In many ways, you can watch Scream 1 and 2 and then skip right to the 4th and it's a true trilogy (just like Halloween, Halloween 2, then H20). In fact, I can clearly point out all of the similarities that might suggest Scream 4 is REALLY the Scream 3 Kevin originally wanted. Replace the remake theme with the Trilogy theme. And they were supposed to be back in Woodsboro in 3, right? Replace Sidney's brother with her COUSIN and tada! Scr34m!!!

But back on point, you fault Scream 4 for all the things you loved about Scream 3. And you're basically telling us we're WRONG for liking it as much as we do. WHY? We're not just posting mindless showers of praise for the film, we're discussing it's strengths, flaws, details, dialogue, everything, That's the difference between what we're talking about and your "I hated it! It sucks! And if you liked it, you suck, too!"

 

[antsman41]

Jow, I'd dress up as GF just to kill Parker, I hate her that much.

She is even close to being as bad as that Jason kid in Superman Returns.

 

[CrypticOne]

Thinking more about Scream 4 after seeing it Sat night, I enjoyed it. It was entertaining. Here's my ratings:

Scream ...... 8
Scream 2.... 7
Scream 3.... 6
Scream 4.... 7

Yeah, those are my ratings for the movies too.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Saw Scream 4 a 3rd time 2 days ago.

 

[Ponyboy]

3rd time?! Jeezas... you are a fan

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Lol, I usually do that with films I love. That's pobably how many times I'll see Thor.

 

[marvelman2006]

Again, "flop" and "underperforming" are two different things. It's already made three quarters of its budget back, and made it back fully if you count in worldwide sales already. That is not "dead" either. It will still have several weeks left in the theaters to make even more. And if you think that dvd sales don't factor anything in, then you're very mistaken. There have been many times over the years that films got sequels or considered successes due to those, because yes, those are a part of how the film is sold, and they clearly bring in money to the studios for it, so yes, they do look at how lucrative those are in wanting to invest in possibly making more of it.

the movie dropped all the way to 5th place and will probably drop off out of the top 10 this week with the release of fast five. The movie just didnt have a big splash like some predicted. The DVD sales are a different beast and I really dont factor those into when movies get made, most people who buy DVD's and Blurays of new releases are older audiences and people who just cant afford to go to a cinema and plop down $40 for two people to see a movie. Granted certain movies have taken a life of there own on DVD but I can garunteee you that movie studios arent going to greenlight a scream 5 and 6 if 4 barely makes back its production cost. Every movie including the Hottie and the Nottie makes money on DVD, its just an endless argument. Its not a bad thing that scream 4 has performed the way it has, the genre itself is just in a funk right now where not alot is going on that is interesting, right now scifi is running wild. It all goes through cycles.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Films have underperformed before and have gotten sequels. As fro the genre being in a "funk", there are great horror filsm that are being released straight to DVD. If Half of them were put into theaters, you'd see a big boom of the horror genre. Simple as that.