The Flash Season 7x10: Family Matters, Part 1

[Web-Head]

Iris is pushed to the limit as she seeks to uncover the mysterious truth about Psych; Barry initiates a new training system, that could potentially backfire, with devastating consequences; Joe and Cisco make life-altering decisions.

 

[flickchick85]

Ok I think I just need to unplug my Echo dot when watching this show as long as Alexa's in the picture.

 

[The Caped Knight]

7 seasons and Barry still needs assistance to save the city and now it's not even combat it's a talking down standoff. I'm sick off this and I don't have much patience left to watch a very underwhelming series.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I am tired of this storyline and this whole "your kids!" thing is just beyond...ugh. We've spent to much time talking down bad guys. I'm bored.

But I did enjoy Ciscos storyline.

 

[Gaultheria]

Joe West: "In my decades of service as a police officer, I have earned the respect and good opinion of every employee of the Central City Police Department, who all trust me to provide calm, rational direction as their Captain. The Governor's new liaison appointee is challenging my leadership style. To teach her a lesson, I'd better quit."

 

[The Caped Knight]

So Joe leaves CCPD and that ***** is now in charge what the hell? Now she has metahuman cure bullets in her possession to gun down multiple metahuman.

 

[Web-Head]

I could've sworn someone else played Psych in episode 5, but apparently not?

Another fine episode. I'm probably in the minority but I don't mind this season so far. I can see where they're going with the family aspect but Michelle Harrison doesn't have the gravitas to pull off "Big Bad" and it's giving me some season 4 vibes with all the silliness surrounding the Thinker.

I wonder if Joe will be leaving the show now too.

 

[The Caped Knight]

The actress isn't the problem, the storyline with the Forces is, along with this bloody Paragon of Love garbage where now Barry doesn't fight, he talks with passion to calm down his enemies to turn neutral or good.

 

[Web-Head]

The actress isn't the problem, the storyline with the Forces is, along with this bloody Paragon of Love garbage where now Barry doesn't fight, he talks with passion to calm down his enemies to turn neutral or good.

I don't have too much of a problem with it. I do think they have absolutely overdone it this season, which is the problem. If it was every once in a while? Fine, but all the time...

I still believe a large part of it is due to Covid.

 

[flickchick85]

I think my problem is, I was never into the concept of the Speed Force to begin with - it's what's kept me away from the Flash comics all these years - so the notion of taking it a step further and turning these "Forces" into actual characters is just a bridge too far for me.

 

[SV Fan]

I love the actor who played Psych, he was great in Blindspot as Rich dot Com

 

[Lencho01]

 

[Flash525]

How many characters have we met now that have had to overcome their fears and couldn't up until the point that it really mattered, and all within a single episode?

How many times can that theme be recycled before people start falling asleep? Jesus. Not quite sure what 'Nora' has planned here too; why does (or did) she want two of her siblings dead in the first place? All to get back at Barry?

Weren't we promised Godspeed and Thawne for this season? The hell are they?

 

[Dark Raven]

I could've sworn someone else played Psych in episode 5, but apparently not?

Another fine episode. I'm probably in the minority but I don't mind this season so far. I can see where they're going with the family aspect but Michelle Harrison doesn't have the gravitas to pull off "Big Bad" and it's giving me some season 4 vibes with all the silliness surrounding the Thinker.

I wonder if Joe will be leaving the show now too.

No it's the same actor. I remember seeing his name Ennis Esmer in that episode but he never showed his face. I knew it was him by his voice though.

Fuerza's transformation doesn't make any sense. Where does this completely other costume come from instead of still wearing the Star Labs sweatshirt and why is her hair tied back in a ponytail? And where do her shoes go? Should've made it more like Hulk or She-Hulk where it's an actual physical transformation and not just being replaced by the other alter ego. They could've made her look like a bigger and more muscular version of Siri who still resembles the actress.

Or if not that, they could've hired a tall female bodybuilder and had the transformation more like the 70s Hulk TV series instead of a CGI creation. At least she wouldn't have just seemed like a special effect.

 

[flashpo1nt]

i don't know where the writers are going with this.....now it's like the forces are gaining up together to fight nora....this whole kill the speedforce, bring it back to life, and speedforce nora originally being a mentor for barry now seems to be more like an enemy...I'm sure there's more to the story but in all honesty I'm not finding these episodes very interesting.

Fuerza could've been treated with the same look as all the other forces without having to transform into she hulk which again continuity makes no sense, different clothes when she changes....they could've displayed super strength without the need for her to change appearances. In other words it was a waste for them to use cgi and poorly executing it by clothes not being the same and even some of the cgi scenes weren't that great I mean honestly they should've never wasted the budget on Fuerza being able to change into she hulk.

 

[Web-Head]

How many characters have we met now that have had to overcome their fears and couldn't up until the point that it really mattered, and all within a single episode?

How many times can that theme be recycled before people start falling asleep? Jesus. Not quite sure what 'Nora' has planned here too; why does (or did) she want two of her siblings dead in the first place? All to get back at Barry?

Weren't we promised Godspeed and Thawne for this season? The hell are they?

Godspeed is coming. He's been spotted on set and presumably the big bad of 7B

 

[Flash525]

i don't know where the writers are going with this.....now it's like the forces are gaining up together to fight nora....this whole kill the speedforce, bring it back to life, and speedforce nora originally being a mentor for barry now seems to be more like an enemy...I'm sure there's more to the story but in all honesty I'm not finding these episodes very interesting.

I don't think they know either. You/we can almost guarantee that the payoff is going to be an eye-roll.

The only way of somehow saving this for me is if whatever happens at the end of this arc is the reason Thawne (and Godspeed?) are back in the picture, but even then, there's gotta be a better way to bring them into the fold than this catastrophe.

I've gotta' ask too, but does anyone ever wonder whether the cast have a say in the script? You'd have thought by now one of them would've stepped in and said "hold on guys, this script is trash, you can do better".

Godspeed is coming. He's been spotted on set and presumably the big bad of 7B

That being the case, I wish they'd have just scrapped 7A. Godspeed best be worth this wait!

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't think they know either. You/we can almost guarantee that the payoff is going to be an eye-roll.

The only way of somehow saving this for me is if whatever happens at the end of this arc is the reason Thawne (and Godspeed?) are back in the picture, but even then, there's gotta be a better way to bring them into the fold than this catastrophe.

I've gotta' ask too, but does anyone ever wonder whether the cast have a say in the script? You'd have thought by now one of them would've stepped in and said "hold on guys, this script is trash, you can do better".

That being the case, I wish they'd have just scrapped 7A. Godspeed best be worth this wait!

I could've done without 7A as well. It's been a dull storyline. Fuerza could've been interesting if she hadn't been just a CGI creation but an actual transformation and there were an actress playing the more muscular version.

Why hasn't Caitlin even gone to visit Frost in prison or even spoken about having visited her?

What's Joe West going to do now that he isn't captain anymore? Unless he does become Captain again by the end of the season and the other woman is removed or killed. Maybe she'll become a metahuman herself and will be hunted and know what it's like.

 

[Dark Raven]

Natalie Portman as she currently is with her muscles could've played Fuerza.

 

[flashpo1nt]

i'm not sure what's going on with nora as she's supposed to be barry's mentor/power....yet she's turning against him. its like she's not the real nora, or something is manipulating her.

she could be in fear of her life, yet her actions and betrayal of barry don't add up, at least not like the way nora/speedforce was in past seasons.

i don't like the fact that iris has something to do with barry's powers, it's utterly ridiculous that the writers use sparks from both iris and barry, it was barry that was struck by lightning/speedforce not iris....her love or her in general should have nothing to do with barry's power or abilities, other than than supporting him to make him believe in himself or to do the right things.

stupid writing and concept in my honest opinion. my guess is either they bring the forces back together or the split and form god speed or bring thawne back, sometimes I wish the writers could have a panel of comic book enthusiasts there when they write to proof read and tell them this is good and this is trash.

 

[Dark Raven]

i don't like the fact that iris has something to do with barry's powers, it's utterly ridiculous that the writers use sparks from both iris and barry, it was barry that was struck by lightning/speedforce not iris....her love or her in general should have nothing to do with barry's power or abilities, other than than supporting him to make him believe in himself or to do the right things.

stupid writing and concept in my honest opinion. my guess is either they bring the forces back together or the split and form god speed or bring thawne back, sometimes I wish the writers could have a panel of comic book enthusiasts there when they write to proof read and tell them this is good and this is trash.

But... but... Iris: "we are the Flash!"

 

[flashpo1nt]

But... but... Iris: "we are the Flash!"

I think the writers are going with the idea that whenever a speedster has children, parents and child or children are electromagnetically connected...which just means within in close contact an electromagnetic spark generates.

my guess is the reason iris can do this even though her and barry haven't had a child yet, is because the speedforce isn't bound by time therefore in the future iris will be in a nice not meaning to be rude way will be infused with parts of the speedforce when she becomes pregnant.

The connection is sort of already there even though they haven't had a child yet, maybe it was supposed to be dormant but they stumbled upon it now and the writers are incorporating that into the forces as being similar to children they would be connected to.

That's my explanation as to why iris can generate a spark.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think the writers are going with the idea that whenever a speedster has children, parents and child or children are electromagnetically connected...which just means within in close contact an electromagnetic spark generates.

my guess is the reason iris can do this even though her and barry haven't had a child yet, is because the speedforce isn't bound by time therefore in the future iris will be in a nice not meaning to be rude way will be infused with parts of the speedforce when she becomes pregnant.

The connection is sort of already there even though they haven't had a child yet, maybe it was supposed to be dormant but they stumbled upon it now and the writers are incorporating that into the forces as being similar to children they would be connected to.

That's my explanation as to why iris can generate a spark.

I don't know if it has to be a future thing though. Maybe when they have sex now, there is some transference of lightning or the speed force from Barry to Iris, otherwise how would a future child also be a speedster if there isn't?

 

[flashpo1nt]

I don't know if it has to be a future thing though. Maybe when they have sex now, there is some transference of lightning or the speed force from Barry to Iris, otherwise how would a future child also be a speedster if there isn't?

that was what I was getting at, there already may be tiny traces of dark matter or speedforce inside iris from her and barry being intimate.

so the spark would make sense, because even when we've seen speedster steal others speed it's done very much the same way, it's like the sparks connect and then transferred.

I don't think iris has super speed or the abilities, except that she's just connect to barry which generates a spark, it's not like iris can turn on and off superspeed, I mean small traces could be in her dna now but not like the what barry had to experience in order to be graced with super speed from the speedforce.

 

[Sithborg]

So Joe leaves CCPD and that ***** is now in charge what the hell? Now she has metahuman cure bullets in her possession to gun down multiple metahuman.

So, these idiots of writers are going to attempt to do a story about police brutality? Can't say BLM, because "waves at Candace Patton's complaints". And giving the episode that was about covid trauma, its not even going to be a trainwreck in an entertaining way.