Secret Six official discussion thread

[hippie_hunter]

I actually thought that this was a very good issue and one of the best in the series. I think that the tension is perfect because unlike with many books where it's obvious that someone will or will not die, I think it's impossible to tell if Liana will die or not. Tension like that is severely lacking in comics these days. Will Scandal bring back Knockout? Who the **** knows! And the fight between Ragdoll and Scandal was perfect.

And you're really going to complain about this considering how excellent Simone is with homosexual characters? I can understand if it's someone like Geoff Johns, but Gail Simone?

 

[Mystirious]

There are so few really good well written lgbt characters in comics i get nervous whenever I see one in peril. I hope your right hippie_hunter and that Liana will be alive and unharmed when this story arc is over. But if she is not I won't hesitate for a second to stop buying this comic book

I found the whole scenario unpleaseant. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

End of the day I dont care who the writer is. If Liana gets tortured or killed off in this comic book I will never buy this comic book again.

So I hope your right hippie_hunter. I want to have faith in Simone. I do not want to be dissapointed. But characters like Scandal Liana and Jeanette are the reason i buy Secret Six they are the characters I care about. If Liana is killed off or tortured not only will I be disgusted and think it is stupid and offensive I will also have no reason to care about this comic book or buy it anymore

 

[Mystirious]

Read the new issue


This whole get out of hell free card thing is a total waste of time as Knockout will not be coming back. DC are not bringing any of the new gods back

The storyline about Liana being kidnapped by this subhuman brainless bigot who wants to torture her because she's a stripper and because she's gay is cliched nonsense that makes me sick to my stomach to read. I hate it

And as the reason I read Simone comics is because she writes well written and entertaining lgbt characters if she kills off or tortures one as adorable as Liana in so grotesque a fashion I shall cease buying this comic and all comic books that have Simone as their writer

If Knockout does come back I will be happy but I doubt that is going to happen

I usually love this comic book with all my love but I have not enjoyed anything about this story arc so far

 

[howl]

SECRET SIX #36
Written by GAIL SIMONE
Art and cover by J. CALAFIORE
Bane’s ambitious plans turn darker and deadlier than anyone imagined, putting The Secret Six in the most perilous position of their nasty little lives! No one escapes unscathed in this one – and the Six won’t ever be the same!
On sale AUGUST 3 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T+

3 years of Secret Six issues - WOO!!!!

 

[Roose Bolton]

a tie in to the next Nolan movie perhaps?

 

[Mystirious]

I am guessing that is probably why Bane may be becoming a villain again

 

[Spike_x1]

Guh.

If they want to put more focus on Bane to grab attention for the new Bat movie, that's fine, but I am scared s**tless that they'll regress him and undo 15 years of his character development just to make him resemble more of the man he was in Knightfall and presumably how he'll be in the movie.

He's not the same guy he was back then, and he actually grew out of that mold in an organic and natural development over the slow span of so many years, so it would be an absolute shame if all of that was undone for the sake of marketing a movie to readers who would already be set on watching it in theaters.

I'm praying that it will just be a temporary crisis of faith or whatever after learning that he's still destined for Hell, and that he gets over it and realizes that he was acting like a tool back in his Knightfall days and it's not worth revisiting those old habits.

 

[Mystirious]

I am hoping that whatever happens next with Bane isnt done just to tie in with the movie but is instead dine in a way that is interesting and makes sense

But it is a big coincidence that Bane is going to the dark side again shortly before a Batman movie comes out where he is the main villain. It does sort of seem like it is just happening to tie in with the film

Hope i am wrong though

 

[Roose Bolton]

I guess that it all depends on Gail Simone and if she'd actually go there with Bane just because there's a new movie out. Even at his worst though Bane has always had some sense of honor, so maybe there's hope.

 

[Mystirious]

Yep let's hope so

Though if Bane becomes a two dimensional villain again though i will be to see his character development undone I will keep reading Secret Six as he is not one of my favourite characters in the series

As long as Scandal Jeanette Liana and Ragdoll are okay I will keep buying it

 

[Roose Bolton]

I love Ragdoll

But in any case even if Bane does become more....Villainy, I doubt he'll lose all of that awesome character development that he's gained in the last few years, he might just get more brutal.

 

[Mystirious]

Yep you are probably right

And yes Ragdoll is fab. And hawt he makes me with all the things he says and does in the comic

No love for Scandal Jeanette or Liana Oberon?

 

[Spike_x1]

"More brutal"? How could becoming a villain again make him more brutal than he already is and always has been? This is a guy who ripped a mercenary's arm off and beat him to death with it a few issues back, once nuked a small part of Gotham just to demolish one single building, used a Mr. Freeze gun to torture a dude and cut his hand off, and massacred dozens of Ra's Al Ghul's soldiers in his one-man war to eliminate all of the Lazarus pits on Earth. Not to mention the carnage he made in Skartaris.

And those are all things he did after giving up being an outright supervillain.

Brutality has never been an area where Bane has been lacking, regardless of shifting moralities. Perhaps we'll see an increase in the frequency that those brutalities occur, but it's hard to say that that would make those actions more brutal. They'd just happen more often.

Also, just judging by the solicits, it seems that he's going to go back on venom because of this crisis of faith or whatever after realizing that the morality of giving up the drug has no bearing on him going to Hell or not. Now, that could be seven different kinds of inaccurate, both on my part for possibly reading too much into that brief synopsis or the solicitation itself, but I'll be scratching my head pretty hard if it turns out to be true. The use of venom being right or wrong had nothing at all to do with his kicking of the habit. He gave it up because a) he didn't need it, as the drug never made its user that much stronger than they already are (he and Batman beat up an entire gang hopped up on the stuff with their bare hands) and he was already a mountain of muscle, and b) depending on it was a crutch and a massive weakness that Bane couldn't afford. Regardless of the morality of it, giving up venom was a win-win situation for him, especially since his mind also wasn't clouded by chemicals any more.

Now, maybe the question of the immorality of using venom will have nothing to do with why he'll start taking the drug again, so my critique above will be entirely moot, which I hope it will be.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yep you are probably right

And yes Ragdoll is fab. And hawt he makes me with all the things he says and does in the comic

No love for Scandal Jeanette or Liana Oberon?

Well I dont really care about Liana (I think she's boring), but Scandal is awesome

 

[Roose Bolton]

"More brutal"? How could becoming a villain again make him more brutal than he already is and always has been? This is a guy who ripped a mercenary's arm off and beat him to death with it a few issues back, once nuked a small part of Gotham just to demolish one single building, used a Mr. Freeze gun to torture a dude and cut his hand off, and massacred dozens of Ra's Al Ghul's soldiers in his one-man war to eliminate all of the Lazarus pits on Earth. Not to mention the carnage he made in Skartaris.

And those are all things he did after giving up being an outright supervillain.

Brutality has never been an area where Bane has been lacking, regardless of shifting moralities. Perhaps we'll see an increase in the frequency that those brutalities occur, but it's hard to say that that would make those actions more brutal. They'd just happen more often.

Also, just judging by the solicits, it seems that he's going to go back on venom because of this crisis of faith or whatever after realizing that the morality of giving up the drug has no bearing on him going to Hell or not. Now, that could be seven different kinds of inaccurate, both on my part for possibly reading too much into that brief synopsis or the solicitation itself, but I'll be scratching my head pretty hard if it turns out to be true. The use of venom being right or wrong had nothing at all to do with his kicking of the habit. He gave it up because a) he didn't need it, as the drug never made its user that much stronger than they already are (he and Batman beat up an entire gang hopped up on the stuff with their bare hands) and he was already a mountain of muscle, and b) depending on it was a crutch and a massive weakness that Bane couldn't afford. Regardless of the morality of it, giving up venom was a win-win situation for him, especially since his mind also wasn't clouded by chemicals any more.

Now, maybe the question of the immorality of using venom will have nothing to do with why he'll start taking the drug again, so my critique above will be entirely moot, which I hope it will be.

He'll certainly have a more intense personality if he does fully take up venom again, but I doubt he'll go full on "****-everything-else-I must-break-Batman" mode again, that sort of change would warrant a more Bat-centric mini event.

 

[Mystirious]

Well I dont really care about Liana (I think she's boring), but Scandal is awesome

Scandal is sauce. I loves ass kicking heroines/ anti heroines and girls in leather with short hair get a from me

My girlfriend and me are making Scandal and Jeanette costumes for this halloween

Don't think that Liana is boring though I love her and Scandal together. They be so cute together

 

[Roose Bolton]

That'd look pretty sweet

, tho I imagine Scandal's wrist blade thing would be pretty hard to come by t:

 

[Mystirious]

Hahaha yes that wont be on the costume she will be wearing

 

[Shockdingo]

Aaagh, this news of Bane worries me. ;_; I don't want to see any regression in character development for the sake of a movie.

 

[Mystirious]

Agreed I hope he doesnt start using the venom and become a villain again

Though if he does i hope it is not permanent and he doesn't lose all the character development that made him interesting

 

[Roose Bolton]

So this issue was nice, not a huge amount happened, and I'm kinda torn about Bane's depiction, but yeah I more or less enjoyed this issue.

 

[Mystirious]

Agreed I thought it was a good character issue. It was funny seeing Bane in a situation he has no idea how to deal with.

And I enjoyed watching that sick bigot who kidnapped Liana meet a grusome fate. He had it coming. Is it weird that I laughed when Jeanette bit his fingers off

I absolutely hated that nonsense in Hell as i find the entire concept utterly ludicrous. Glad that is over and done with. And the subplot about Liana being kidnapped I found awful and it just reminded me of lousy trashy horror movies so I am glad that Scandal managed to rescue Liana from that subhuman dirtbag who kidnapped her

The moments between Scandal and Ragdoll and Scandal and Jeanette were so sweet. I feel so sorry for Ragdoll and oh my gosh Scandal managed to rescue Knockout! Fun on a bun

 

[Roose Bolton]

what was really weird to me, was Bane with the money, I mean I get that he wouldnt know how to deal with a date like a normal person, being born in a prison and all, but you'd expect the guy who took down Batman would know about american currency. otherwise great issue.

 

[Mystirious]

Yep that was odd. He has spent at least a few years in America and he is an intelligent man. You would think he would know how money works

I'mma just assume he was distracted by thoughts of bow chicka wow wow with Spencer and he just doesn't care about money

 

[Shockdingo]

I think it was that. He said "Will one of these be enough?" or something. I think he merely was just taking out EVERYTHING and asking if a few of those would be enough for the coverage and then distracted by the cutie redhead. t: