Civil War Sharon carter A.K.A. Agent 13 - Part 1

[RedRose]

I still feel like it's such a vague term though. Like was Pietro fridged in AoU? Or did he just get killed?

 

[BullMcGiveny]

When Steve died wasn't that fridging for Tony, Bucky, Sharon, the Marvel universe at large etc?

Character death is always used to elicit emotion, often for the loved ones left behind.

The difference is that Steve was shown to have had such a huge presence in everyone's life that everyone was mourning him. His death was treated as a big deal because of who he was, not because of who specifically was mourning him.

Sharon dying, on the other hand, was shown to only matter in as far as Steve went. Despite being a SHIELD agent, Maria Hill didn't particularly care aside from how it was impacting Steve's psychological wellbeing.

I think the biggest problem with Sharon as a character and how she's been used over the last decade is that her two major defining moments are 1) being brainwashed and pumping multiple bullets into Steve's chest to "kill" him and 2) shooting Ian in the throat and "killing" a child. Her relationship with Steve is currently like a bad country song and she doesn't have much to do outside her relationship with Steve.

I'm not sure when either became defining character moments, and by who, exactly. The later, particularly, said a lot more about Remender than it did about Sharon.

Why is Sharon 'killing' Steve a 'defining moment' and her bringing Steve not?

Presumably the reason Stark crying at at Steve's memorial service is one from Tony and him dumping Steve's body in the arctic isn't.

As for Sharon getting a solo... Kind of an uphill battle, that, when people are selective in acknowledging what she does, or defending of her exclusion.

 

[Voltron]

Sharon's on the merch!

 

[Raiden]

I think I'm going to buy one of these mugs. Where will they be sold? Btw, I wish Scarlet Witch is on one of the mugs as well; it's not right that she has locked out from the merchandising in CW.

 

[Voltron]

Well I'll definitely get the Freedom mug. I'm sure Scarlet Witch merch will be released after the movie comes out since the merch might reveal the CW plot.

 

[Mike5575]

I love how Sharon is on the Civil War Merchandise, but she should be on the same cup as Cap.

 

[BoredGuy]

She is, they're both on the "FREEDOM" cup

 

[Herolee10]

I hope this film at least shows that Sharon's fighting/combat skills have significantly improved since the events of "TWS" because I feel like any of the heroes involved in this film could take her out easily.

 

[BoredGuy]

ugggh don't start that again

 

[Xeno]

I hope this film at least shows that Sharon's fighting/combat skills have significantly improved since the events of "TWS" because I feel like any of the heroes involved in this film could take her out easily.

Of course any of the heroes could take Sharon out without breaking a sweat. She's not on the Avengers' level. A squadron of Ant-Man's trained ants would make short work of her. A few dozen fire ants down that controversial cleavage and it's all over.

 

[Voltron]

I hope this film at least shows that Sharon's fighting/combat skills have significantly improved since the events of "TWS" because I feel like any of the heroes involved in this film could take her out easily.

Sharon is not super powered just like avengers Nat, and Clint but she has the potential to be just as capable like her comics version depending on the writers.

TWS showed that she's an excellent marksman and would've shot Brock in the back dead if the bullet proof glass weren't in the way. When Brock unarmed her she couldn't retaliate since a gunfight broke out and she opted to save that tech guy's life first and foremost. t:

 

[Voltron]

Blink and you'll miss Sharon and Martin Freeman's character. Hoping Sharon kicks at least one ass in this, pretty please Russos.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

Ugh, so she's working for him?

I mean I know she'll jump ship at some point but still.

 

[Silvermoth]

Maybe she's doing undercover work? It's not like Steve would trust shield or whatever you call it these days after what happened with hydra.

So do you reckon freeman is her Bae now? Bit of a downgrade from Steve IMO

 

[Voltron]

Looks like Freeman works for the CIA. On whether Sharon's undercover for SHIELD remains to be seen, but I doubt it because at the end of TWS there wasn't any accords in the works since the Ultron events have yet to transpire.

Hopefully in the next trailer we get to see more Sharon, Wanda, Ant-Man, Zemo, and Crossbones with dialogue and less of Natasha, and Tony.

 

[TalismanRing]

Maybe she's doing undercover work? It's not like Steve would trust shield or whatever you call it these days after what happened with hydra.

So do you reckon freeman is her Bae now? Bit of a downgrade from Steve IMO

Off course but she never had Steve.

She's with the CIA so it would make sense to have her working with the gov't and in a personal capacity Ross or whoeverBilbo'splaying.

 

[Voltron]

So do you reckon freeman is her Bae now? Bit of a downgrade from Steve IMO

No, Freeman wishes he's her bae. I really want Staron to happen.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

It would be cool if she's undercover, but that's expecting too much from the Russos.

The CIA handles foreign intelligence, which is fairly common knowledge. So it doesn't really make sense for them to be the ones quarterbacking the Accords.

Unless she doesn't work for the CIA anymore because the Russos weren't giving her much thought when they were making CATWS.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

So do you reckon freeman is her Bae now? Bit of a downgrade from Steve IMO

Could be worse. She could be trying to **** the hulk.

 

[TalismanRing]

It would be cool if she's undercover, but that's expecting too much from the Russos.

The CIA handles foreign intelligence, which is fairly common knowledge. So it doesn't really make sense for them to be the ones quarterbacking the Accords.

Unless she doesn't work for the CIA anymore because the Russos weren't giving her much thought when they were making CATWS.

Why wouldn't foreign intelligence play into the Accords which is a worldwide organization in response to largely action by Americans on foreign soil. They don't need to be quarterbacking them but there as a tool.

Her stint with the CIA was done in pick ups, months after the film wrapped, after they read the full AOU script and began working on the CW script. Ditto Nat talking to Congress.

 

[Voltron]

Could be worse. She could be trying to **** the hulk.

that's Nat's dept.

Seriously, it's not too much to ask to give Sharon an action scene to make her look bad ass like she is in the comics. You can have more than one woman in this movie kick ass.

Well CIA and terrorists intel will play a part.

 

[Rote]

And someone seriously assumed she could fight the Black Widow

Yeah, it seems like we are getting much more Stucky than Staron in this one. Hail, Russos!

 

[Voltron]

EVC is the 6th headline name. It looks like she'll play a bigger role and wasn't featured much in the teaser since her part's under wraps.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

Why wouldn't foreign intelligence play into the Accords which is a worldwide organization in response to largely action by Americans on foreign soil. They don't need to be quarterbacking them but there as a tool.

Her stint with the CIA was done in pick ups, months after the film wrapped, after they read the full AOU script and began working on the CW script. Ditto Nat talking to Congress.

Because they're based in the US, not on foreign soil.

The accords are an agreement, and presumably there is some government body to enforce it. Doesn't make sense for the world to pick the CIA for that.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

EVC is the 6th headline name. It looks like she'll play a bigger role and wasn't featured much in the teaser since her part's under wraps.

I can't see anything.