The scene in the elevator is clearly also part of the deleted scene, and yes, it does include some of the same dialogue. Because shooting multiple versions (with different locations even, such as hotel bar vs. hotel elevator) of the same scene is very common.
Maybe other directors are used to do it. But not the Russos. They've said multiple times, how much they hate to shoot something and then cut it out, because it means the time and money wasted for nothing. They always try to make a script as tight as possible in order to shoot only those scenes, which will be included in the movie. They work MONTHS on the script only. They are not Zack Snyder.
This is from the deleted scene.
This is from the actual movie.
Go rewatch them back to back and see the difference. It's pretty clear, they were shooted in different times, VanCamp even has straightened hair in the first scene (which she has in ALL the other funeral and hotel scenes deleted or not, except for one) and her usual style in another. So it proves, the one movie's lobby scene was shooted separately from the others. Also, it's not the same places. It's not the same elevator. I bet, the similar shiny wall in the second case was added post-filming, you can see a mistake, when they cut close to Steve - there is no light wall behind him, even though it's pretty wide and should be seen in this shot:
I think, it's because the hotel, they filmed in the summer, was no loger available for the reshoots. They are in different clothes. It was likely reshooted after the testing audiences disliked the bar scene for the obvious reasons. Just like I've predicted back in May:
That scene has been obviously reshooted.
There really wasn't any other point not to use the bar-scene, which was already filmed and maybe only 20-30 seconds longer, than the movie's lobby scene. Without the uniform flirting it would have been even shorter.
Nor is it the Russos. It isn't their own personal sandbox to play with to their own satisfaction.
Feige might have supported Sharon's inclusion initially, only for the Russos to gradually sell him on the idea of extra scenes that required someone else losing screentime, and Sharon/EVC was the designated victim.
Plus, being a slavedriver who wants everything to their own desires makes for a ****** colleague. A decent director would meet the screenwriter some part of the way.
You've just confirmed my point once again. Even if all you've said is true, it just means, that the Russos could NOT have known for sure, when casting EVC, that they will get their way, so they had no reason to search for a cheap actress specifically. Even if her role in TWS was very small, once again, look at Martin Freeman's character. Even if they wanted her to have a small role (which in itself is ridiculous, do they hate only Sharon's character or what? They didn't know about Civil War back then), it doesn't mean anything, because Sharon's role was scaled down, evidently, only very late in the process, when, I bet, the rehearsals began.
Not when they turned Cap 3 in Civil War, but much later. That's why we've got to see her all over the merch as a part of team Cap. Sharon, not Wasp, for example, who, as we know, was also considered at one point to be in the film. Also, Sharon just being with SamBuckySteve after the Berlin's escape and in the airport fight, wouldn't have taken much screentime from anyone. She could have been just like Vision, who was there, but not showed much.
But I think, it's not how it was, the Russos have no agenda to scale down ONLY Sharon's character, while saving ALL the others. What have prevented them to just expand the running time a little more? It's not like the movie has been 3 hours long already. And I've found one more evidence.
This interview was taken back in 2014 maybe only days before CW was announced. That time they considered Sharon to have a decent role on par with Sam and Bucky:
Do you hope for new Marvel universe characters to appear in “Captain America 3,” ones you haven’t worked with before?
Joe Russo: It’s always exciting to put Cap in a situation where he’s dealing with other characters because part of his super power is his morality, and there’s an inspirational quality to his character. So it’s nice to have characters around him that he can inspire. Leadership is also a key component of his, and you can’t lead unless you have other characters around. But he’s also got an expanding universe — Winter Soldier, Agent 13, the Falcon — so there’s already a universe that’s expanding around him. It’s exciting to mix that up, and we may or may not have a few tricks up our sleeve, but that’s about all we can say without spoiling the story for anybody.
Anyway, of course, you're entitled to your own opinion, but I don't believe in so many coincidences. And I don't see a reason to continue discussion with people, who constantly ignore the evidences, which are not suitable for them.
2. This is your prattling opinion, not fact. And since you did state that professional critics don't care about shipping, this applies to Stucky.
Well, just like yours, you know, which is no better, than mine.
BINGO! Yeah, exactly, it's what I've told you. They don't care about Stucky, but even they see that.
3. Desperate that I paid attention to M&M's narrative that they themselves confirmed on interviews that Stucky are like brothers, not lovers where Bucky even tried to set pre-serum Steve out with a girl in Cap 1? And that they've been championing Sharon since 2011 because they want to adapt the Cap comics where Sharon's played a major role? Yeah, let's ignore these facts on record and stick to your NO HOMO fan fiction tumblr theory.
So? Once again, how is it relevant to a NOHOMO, which is not about what the filmmakers think, but about what they or studio don't want
the audience to think? You being a Sharon's fan know about this, but the GA only see, what they see in the movie. They don't usually even read much interviews.
And really. THE LAST TIME. I've never said, that Stucky is canon. Yes, LIKE brothers. I can't help you and it's not my problem, that you don't understand the meaning of simple words, which are about VERY close and intimate friendship. Harry Potter also said, that Hermione is like a sister to him, because he had no romantic feelings for her. But
in case he actually had, there would be absolutely NOTHING wrong with the romantic relationship between them, as there was nothing wrong with her love story with Ron, because they are not blood relatives nor are they related by any way to each other's ex-loved ones. And many people from the audience were hoping for Harry+Hermione to happen before the final chapter. And Rowling later have said, that she made a mistake and maybe Harry should have been with Hermione indeed. The point is that people don't always read fiction as it was meant to be read by creators. And creators know that.
PS. And, you know, even in these claims you're wrong. Nobody from the filmmakers have ever CONFIRMED anything. While I don't believe Stucky being canon, the Russos said many times, that they are "wide open to interpretation" and that what movie depicts allows that interpretation. What they have actually said is that "like brothers" is only THEIR personal interpretation (well, in all cases, they couldn't have said anything else openly, anyway). They have never claimed something being exactly canon or non-canon.
And in case you haven't seen this, your precious M&M actually think, that even in the comics Steve and Bucky, not Steve and Sharon, are soulmates and the longest platonic love story in each others lives. It's clear, that if only Bucky were a girl, they would totally have been an item: "their bond has all the elements of a classic romance". So, yeah, go on and make more irrelevant repetitive excuses, that they are LIKE brothers, yeah-yeah-yeah, because my points are exactly all about how Stucky are lovers in canon
*SARCASM*
It's an excerpt from the forward to TPB of Cap White by Markus & McFeely
4. Also haven't you been reading my multiple posts that Russos undermined and replaced Sharon with BW. The proof is TWS and CW.
Well, yeah, dude, that's why it's clear, that you're running in circles and don't know, how to have a decent argument discussion. You have nothing to refute my points, constantly ignoring the fact, that Sharon had a decent role in
CW initially and
wasn't replaced there with anyone. Just cut out. I know this, I have the Civil War official Artbook. Sharon is there in many arts of the airport battle with all the others, including Wanda and Natasha. I'm bored already. Whatever, go on and repeat your mantra once more to make yourself feel better.
Now it's just you being desperate. The key word: "like". They haven't ANY actual relation to each others loved ones whatsoever. If Bucky were a nephew of Steve's dead love I would be disgusted all the same. But he isn't. One can say, that Monica and Chandler were LIKE brother and sister for many years before they decided to have sex. Sometimes long close friendship grows into something more. Tony and Pepper are another example.
