The Defenders Sigourney Weaver is the Big Bad Villain of The Defenders

Head of IGH?

That sounds rather boring.

Hopefully the Defenders will have villains to fight with more individual personalities than just the Hand as cannon fodder. But not Nobu again.
 
My inside sources are telling me that she is playing Marvel's version of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton? Good call after all Hillary is the real world's Mephisto.

Maybe we'll see her in Infinity War as well?
 
That sounds rather boring.

Hopefully the Defenders will have villains to fight with more individual personalities than just the Hand as cannon fodder. But not Nobu again.

Elektra had quite the personality before she got killed. Hoping that they don't Jean Grey her (X-Men The Last Stand) and let that personality shine a little and be a fun enemy for them to deal with before she, hopefully, switches sides.
 
I don't understand why people keep saying every older actress working with marvel in Janet when Rudd said they are still very early in development.

We won't hear who is playing Janet until casting starts next year I would imagine.
Clickbait journalism.
 
Here's a possibility nobody has yet mentioned: Weaver could be playing the entity that Black Sky Elektra is summoning/possessed by.
 
Could she be the Crane Mother from the Iron Fist comics?
 
When does the Defenders start shooting? Is there anything shooting right now?
 
I think Finn Jones said in about 3 weeks.
 
Roxxon Oil gets mentioned a lot as a background player, and Daredevil season 2 suggested that they work with the Hand. Maybe she will be the head of the company.
 
Roxxon Oil gets mentioned a lot as a background player, and Daredevil season 2 suggested that they work with the Hand. Maybe she will be the head of the company.

Maybe Roxxon Oil is connected to IGH?

She also could be playing a female Ken Wind like character from the Elektra Assassin mini series...
 
OK, so what about Sunset Bain or Rosalind Sharpe?

Sharpe is not a badguy in the comics and I think it be a bit weird to make her one, especially if she is going to be the major Big Bad.

I don't see how Bain would be a bigger threat then the villains we saw in Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. It seems like she would be another generic corporate baddie and there are already a ton of those in the MCU, I think I would like something more epic and I think Weaver deserves a really juicey villain role.
 
Yeah, Rosalind Sharpe is basically Jerri Hogarth, not a model citizen, but not a villain.
 
I don't think it's going to be Sharpe. Coleen Wing's mother already works for the Hand. Deviating from the source material so that Foggy's mom is also not only a member of the Hand but the Snakeroot itself? That's way too much of a stretch, particularly since Foggy isn't a fighter of any sort.

And I'm not sure if she's Sunset Bain either since Bain is an Iron Man villain but that's actually a really good guess. She's fought a number of other heroes in the Marvel U like Machine Man, Ghost Rider and Taskmaster. She's a weapons manufacturer so she could have ties with Justin Hammer and Diamondback. The Hand have ties to a number of corporations like Roxxon. There's nothing saying that Sunset Bain can't be made CEO of IGH or that IGH can't be a subsidiary of Baintronics. And Sunset Bain is absolutely amoral enough to want to get involved in the creation of supersoldiers and would join The Hand if it meant more power.


But let's look at who the villain is likely to be and what role Weaver's character is likely to play in the story. Stick's narration in the trailer, the big hand in the logo, The Hand having Elektra's body and the lingering subplot of The Hand digging a hole in New York City all but confirms that she's somehow related to them in some sort of leadership position. She could very well be The Beast but he needs a human host and that doesn't bring us any closer to Weaver's character's name.

Now let's look at what role this character (whoever she is) is likely to play in bringing the heroes together. Daredevil is already an enemy of The Hand. Colleen Wing's mother is named Izuma Ozawa and she's connected the The Hand so that brings the two of them together. (Considering that Sigourney Weaver can't pass for Japanese, she's probably a separate character.) And if Iron Fist sticks to the source material, Danny is going to be framed for the murder of Harold Meachum by a ninja. And that ninja is likely to be working for The Hand.

Luke is likely to be brought in by Matt as he helps to clear Luke's name. But that says nothing about Jessica getting involved since Luke and Jessica left on poor terms and Danny and Jessica could meet through Hogarth but Jessica and Hogarth are also not currently the best of friends. That means that Jessica needs a connection to Matt... or the villain needs a connection to IGH. We know that Seagate Prison was contracting somebody else to do their experiments on inmates. We have no idea if Burnstein was working for IGH or somebody else but considering how we only know of three organizations in the MCU building supersoldiers and AIM nor HYDRA is tied to any of the Netflix series so far (and I don't buy that Momentum Alternative Energy isn't tied to somebody bigger), it's likely that Burnstein was an employee of IGH and that's going to get Luke to want to make amends with Jessica since he knows that she's investigating them. Therefore it follows that Weaver's character is involved with both groups.

Weaver is too old to be Typhoid Mary and Mary is way too unstable to lead any sort of organization. Ma Gnucci is a shady underworld type who may make deals with The Hand but I can't see her leading IGH. I don't think that she's Viper due to rights issues with Fox and the fact that HYDRA would be a third villain faction to add to what's already a convoluted story.

The part that makes me think that she isn't Bain is that there's another female villain who's a gangster, billionaire corporate executive and has an army of ninjas at her disposal. More importantly, the only Defender who lacks a personal reason to get involved is Misty Knight. Sigourney Weaver is clearly Celia Ricadonna. In the comics, she's an enemy of Misty's who played a role in both a Daughters of the Dragon miniseries and the post-Civil War Heroes for Hire ongoing. She also clearly has some skill with black magick where she can pull weapons out of thin air despite them not being holstered on her which leads back to The Hand every bit as much as the ninja thing. Then there's also the whole, "unbreakable katana" thing. I'd be surprised if that wasn't Weaver's character.
 
And I don't think that Celia Ricadonna is going to be the only villain. I feel like she's just going to be the leader/Jessica's main enemy. I feel like there are going to be three more who are each a match for each Defender. Matt will presumably fight Ikari who has roughly the same powers as he does in terms of super senses and a personal radar. Luke Cage will probably fight Kirigi the Undying who has been alive for centuries and cannot physically die. Iron Fist is probably going to fight Onehand who's a one-armed swordsman who dies but comes back to life and gains the nickname, "Fist." Misty and Colleen are most likely to fight The Nail who are four female Hand ninjas who Colleen commanded during the Shadowland event.

There you go. I figured out who the Defenders are fighting and why before any image has been released.
 
This is beyond cool. I never really imagined them even attempting to cast a huge star like her.

Easier to cast big name stars when they're senior citizens. Demand for them as well as their pay request isn't as great as once was.
 
I think I most see her being Headhunter, Mephisto or Ma Gnucci. Ruby Thursday possibly? Any counter arguments?
 
Yeah, Rosalind Sharpe is basically Jerri Hogarth, not a model citizen, but not a villain.

Yup but the shows change a lot of things about the comics. For example, Scarfe was always a pretty loyal straight arrow cop. Until recently that is.
 
Until recently is the key. There's absolutely precedent for what the show did there. Also, from a practical perspective, there's a big difference between a twist and announcing "Foggy's mom is the villain to our show." We know Sigourney Weaver is a villain.
 
There was never precedent for what happened to Ben Urich and Purple Man either.

More than likely it's not going to be someone like Rosalind Sharpe. But I'd like her to not be some corporate CEO type. I'd like her to be a really iconic character. Corporate CEO villains are boring and have been done to death already.
 
Maybe Roxxon Oil is connected to IGH?

Eh, Roxxon Oil shows up all over the place. I don't think its appearances in Netflix really mean anything. Its just a convenient "generic evil corporation". Note that its never been plot-important in the way that, say, Hammer Industries was for Luke Cage.
 
Yup but the shows change a lot of things about the comics. For example, Scarfe was always a pretty loyal straight arrow cop. Until recently that is.

I don't see how Sharpe would be a good fit as a really powerful Big Bad that unites the Defenders, if you turn her into that, you are changing the character far more then with Scarfe, who went from an honest cop to a corrupt cop, making her into the Big Bad of the Defenders seems like taking a kinda shady lawyer and turning her into a full fledged super villain. Plus I think it would be a bit silly if Foggy's mom, is the big evil mastermind the Defenders have to spend 8 episodes taking down.

I think I most see her being Headhunter, Mephisto or Ma Gnucci. Ruby Thursday possibly? Any counter arguments?

How would Ruby Thursday be a good fit as the Big bad of this series? This character only seems appealing based on how weird she looks in the comics. I don't think her look would like good in live action, I certainly don't think it would look good on a Netflix budget and I don't see what she adds to this series, which is about 4 street level heroes in a darker world then the movies, she really doesn't fit that tone.

People keep bringing up Ma Gnucci, she is a better pick then then Ruby Thursday, but she doesn't doesn't bring anything to table that Fisk couldn't do better and DD beat him by himself, so I don't think she is a good fit for the Big Bad of this series.
 
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I can't really see Ma Gnucci as anything more than a Punisher villain.
 
Hillary Clinton? Good call after all Hillary is the real world's Mephisto.

Maybe we'll see her in Infinity War as well?

Better that than Lex Luthor without a brain cell. :o
 

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