Sequels So I guess Schuler Donner just confirmed an X4

[WorthyStevens]

The surprise clip at the end of this summer's "X-Men: The Last Stand," belied the film's title, leaving room for yet another stand of the mutant brigade. But when and which of the mutant posse will be back are the outstanding questions. Exec producer Lauren Shuler Donner reports that renegotiations will be in order for the fourth installment of the big-screen sagas. "The newer cast members are signed, and the older cast members are not." Considering the older names involved -- Halle Berry, Hugh Jackman, Rebecca Romijn, Famke Janssen and Anna Paquin -- that could run into a huge chunk of money.

http://www.dailynews.com/celebrities/ci_4177414

 

[Electrix]

I think its all talk at this moment in time. I doubt FOX will even start negotiation anytime soon, not even the next year or so. They will do Wolverine, then be working on Magneto. Then hopefully they will start on X4.

 

[RED-RAIN]

yes, well you dont sign actors for nothing now do you?
she stated, clearly, that they have signed actors...
there will be an x4...
they obviously havent decided wether they want a new bred or not, wich is easy to see why i mean the previous cast would be easier to generate money from as its easily recognisable and are the staple characters... new actors could represent a slide in profits maybe...
we will just have to wait and see

 

[xmenfilesfan05]

yes, well you dont sign actors for nothing now do you?
she stated, clearly, that they have signed actors...
there will be an x4...
they obviously havent decided wether they want a new bred or not, wich is easy to see why i mean the previous cast would be easier to generate money from as its easily recognisable and are the staple characters... new actors could represent a slide in profits maybe...
we will just have to wait and see

Sometimes they do sign actors, just in case something could happen where they would like to use them again...it's a safety precaution really. And I'd like to have as much faith in your comment that there will be an X4, but at this point who knows.

 

[Mistopurr83]

oops! double post.

 

[Mistopurr83]

Why do you believe this woman? It's the same kind of vague speculation LSD has always been giving out.

 

[Destructicus]

I'm just happy there is more speculation that x4 will become a reality.

 

[Goddessreicho]

I find it ironic that this article pointed out that we have a better chance of seeing an X4 than a Superman sequel. When everybody thinks that SR was "a much better movie, and the begining of a great franchise."

At least with X4 we might see exploration of characters that had nothing the whole GD trilogy and were nothing more than glorified cameos with no purpose except as a lame attempt to quiet fans. *cough StormCyclopsBeast cough*

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I find it ironic that this article pointed out that we have a better chance of seeing an X4 than a Superman sequel. When everybody thinks that SR was "a much better movie, and the begining of a great franchise."
At least with X4 we might see exploration of characters that had nothing the whole GD trilogy and were nothing more than glorified cameos with no purpose except as a lame attempt to quiet fans. *cough StormCyclopsBeast cough*

umm... that doesnt seem to be the exact case... i know alot of people who were very dissapointed... and alot more who even didn't bother to see it

 

[Darthkush]

To me this doesn't confirm anything. If anything, it sounds more like X4 is too big a risk to the studio. I don't think Fox wants to blow that much money to get back the older cast members. Yes, X3 made a lot of money, but after it had such a huge opening weekend, I think Fox expected it's legs to be a little sturdier than it was.

 

[Goddessreicho]

umm... that doesnt seem to be the exact case... i know alot of people who were very dissapointed... and alot more who even didn't bother to see it

Lol, I was being sarcastic. That's why I had quotes. I can see the misunderstanding. Honestly I think that film was totally unforgivable. Only Spacey escapes my wrath in how much I hated it, and not completly either.

X4 does have potential of soothing some of the written plot holes and character mishaps that were in X3, as long as Penn and Kinberg dont F it up, again.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

To me this doesn't confirm anything. If anything, it sounds more like X4 is too big a risk to the studio. I don't think Fox wants to blow that much money to get back the older cast members. Yes, X3 made a lot of money, but after it had such a huge opening weekend, I think Fox expected it's legs to be a little sturdier than it was.

ummm sorry but X3 is deemed very successful.. legs or not.. it made a hell of alot of money... This report didnt confirm an X4... but it certainly let us know that the studio is thinkin about it... chances are LSD was thinking that "some" of the cast they will sign.. and "some" they wont... wich wouldnt surprise me

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Lol, I was being sarcastic. That's why I had quotes. I can see the misunderstanding. Honestly I think that film was totally unforgivable. Only Spacey escapes my wrath in how much I hated it, and not completly either.

X4 does have potential of soothing some of the written plot holes and character mishaps that were in X3, as long as Penn and Kinberg dont F it up, again.

i honestly don't think there was any mishaps in X3.. just a new chapter... people said old cast members had no development.. but for the most part. this is the third movie .. we know the main cast and who they are by now... and i just looked at the new characters as x-men were just starting to get to know.. much like how we hardly knew iceman in X1.. but he got development in 2

 

[Goddessreicho]

I know it was successful. I was thrilled about that. I really was. I saw it like four times. As a Storm fan, and a Halle fan, I really enjoyed her FINALLY doing something more than wearing tight white shirts, tilting her head, and flying the jet.

I also loooooooved Mags in X3. But I did have alot of problems with it, but less problems than I had with the first two movies.

I hated the fact that we saw no Angel and Psy together. Booo. No Gambit, booo some more. No Emma, booooooooo.

X4 can fix that. And help and to the multi-billion dollar franchise.

 

[WorthyStevens]

To me this doesn't confirm anything. If anything, it sounds more like X4 is too big a risk to the studio. I don't think Fox wants to blow that much money to get back the older cast members. Yes, X3 made a lot of money, but after it had such a huge opening weekend, I think Fox expected it's legs to be a little sturdier than it was.

Legs don't matter. The movie has already made it's budget back, and has made some profit. It hasn't even hit DVD yet.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I know it was successful. I was thrilled about that. I really was. I saw it like four times. As a Storm fan, and a Halle fan, I really enjoyed her FINALLY doing something more than wearing tight white shirts, tilting her head, and flying the jet.

I also loooooooved Mags in X3. But I did have alot of problems with it, but less problems than I had with the first two movies.

I hated the fact that we saw no Angel and Psy together. Booo. No Gambit, booo some more. No Emma, booooooooo.

X4 can fix that. And help and to the multi-billion dollar franchise.

lol if gambit and emma were crammed into the movie they would have been brushed aside... as would the people who didnt get enough screen time as is...

and like i said.. angel had some of the most powerful scenes, and he had more development then iceman did in X1.. so can't wait to see more in X4

 

[Goddessreicho]

i honestly don't think there was any mishaps in X3.. just a new chapter... people said old cast members had no development.. but for the most part. this is the third movie .. we know the main cast and who they are by now... and i just looked at the new characters as x-men were just starting to get to know.. much like how we hardly knew iceman in X1.. but he got development in 2

No we don't. That's the problem. Beast, Storm, and Cyclops, who are three out of the four orginal movie-verse X-men have NO backround story, very little depth, character explanation or interaction, and no emtional explanation.

This is a huge problem, how are we to relate to these people, and learn to like them for more than their powers if we have nothing more than empty shells walking around and saying their lines.

X4 can fix that. Where as SRII can't undo the mistakes were made, like the kid, or the overbearing Jesus-tones.

 

[Hellion]

As much as I want X4, probably not gonna happen.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

No we don't. That's the problem. Beast, Storm, and Cyclops, who are three out of the four orginal movie-verse X-men have NO backround story, very little depth, character explanation or interaction, and no emtional explanation.

This is a huge problem, how are we to relate to these people, and learn to like them for more than they're powers if we have nothing more than empty shells walking around and saying their lines.

X4 can fix that. Where as SRII can't undo the mistakes were made, like the kid, or the overbearing Jesus-tones.

Beast and Storm have had much more development then Cyclops... so i'll give you him. We at least got to see much more of there opinions.. and there's still many more movies to add more to theres as well as cykes, I really hope the magneto movie shows Xavier recieve his first student... scott.

Storm was much much more fleshed out in X3... she had depth, and both her and beast had explanation and interaction as well as emotional explanation.. Scott also had emotional explination.. the explanation is the events of what happened in X2.

you musn't have payed much attention.. cyclops imo was the only character hard to relate too...

Storm: Has problems dealing with leadership, she was always a shadow, and
doesnt think she's good enough, and Xavier chose her to lead she's
the compassionate team member.. and rules with her heart

Beast/Nightcralwer/Mystique: They all deal with the issue of being physically
different one uses his brains to work his way
up the social ladder breaking the stereo type
along the way, another uses his faith while
beliving even in those who are doing wrong,
and the other is fueled by her hatred.

Angel/Iceman: Both are easily relateable for those who are gay.. with
iceman's coming out scene.. and both dealing with parents
dissaproval as well as there parents wanting them to change
Warren though also has the father/son issue going on

Jean: Jean was always held back, she always felt left behind as if her powers
weren't strong enough, she felt like she was a risk to the team rather
then an asset. She loses control as the phoenix and is over whelmed..
her power controls her.

Wolverine: the loner, the stubborn team mate with alot of rough ends.. but a
heart of gold, he likes to think he does things for himself.. but he
really does it because he likes to help

Xavier: the dreamer, always believing he can over come any obstacle with
peace.. he is the martin luther king of the x-men

Magneto: scorned from his past he fears that like the nazi's the humans will eradicate those who are different.

Rogue: she deals with the physical difference from the inside, her difference is
hidden, and she feels cursed by who she is

Colossus: no development

Psylocke: no development

Cyclops: little development, hes stubborn, got a temper, loves jean more
then anything, has a heart of gold, the leader of the team but out
shined by the new boy (wolverine). He falls apart with jeans death.

Toad: no development

Sabretooth: no development, but we know he really hates wolverine

Juggernaut: no development

Lady Deathstrike: no development


So.. ya.. for the majority of the cast.. i do find them easily relateable.. maybe you just haven't experienced enough in your life

 

[sonicphoto]

Can they just remake X-men 3 like they are remaking the batman series with batman begins and such? Seriously if they are going to make an X4 and not bringing Cyclops back it would be boring for me. Just watching wolverine, storm and the same cast do the things they know to do again and again. I prefer no new characters because I don't want poor introductions. I barely read the comics but still find X-men 3 just is a huge disssapointed compared to how good X-men 2 was. Why superman returns got fans happy? Because he make fans happy with X-men and X2 so I am not surprised SR was good.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Can they just remake X-men 3 like they are remaking the batman series with batman begins and such? Seriously if they are going to make an X4 and not bringing Cyclops back it would be boring for me. Just watching wolverine, storm and the same cast do the things they know to do again and again. I prefer no new characters because I don't want poor introductions. I barely read the comics but still find X-men 3 just is a huge disssapointed compared to how good X-men 2 was. Why superman returns got fans happy? Because he make fans happy with X-men and X2 so I am not surprised SR was good.

with Scott's off screen death, they left leway for him to come back... please no X-remakes.. plus u'd have to wait 10-15 years for it.. and umm bud.. alot of fans were not happy with SR... infact seems to be the non supe fans who know nothing about supes... who enjoyed it the most

 

[Goddessreicho]

Beast and Storm have had much more development then Cyclops... so i'll give you him. We at least got to see much more of there opinions.. and there's still many more movies to add more to theres as well as cykes, I really hope the magneto movie shows Xavier recieve his first student... scott.

I can't believe you just said that. WTH Jean was Xavier's first student. That's one of the reasons we saw the house scene, to farther infuse the realationship between Xavier and Jean. And you accused me of not paying attention. If Scott was the first student, where is the proof, or the bond he would have formed with Magneto or Xavier, please.

Storm was much much more fleshed out in X3... she had depth, and both her and beast had explanation and interaction as well as emotional explanation.. Scott also had emotional explination.. the explanation is the events of what happened in X2.

She had words in X3, but no reason for them. We saw her be angry about the very idea of the cure, but we have no idea why. That's because we know nothing about her past (in the movie-verse). That conversation between she and Beast just proves my point. Anger with no reason. The conversation with Kurt in X2 also proves my point. Anger with no real reason. WHY IS SHE ANGRY? What happened to her that makes her feel that way. I really want to know.

Scott loved Jean. That explains alot. He never got over her first depth, and he lost himself in the downward spiral of depression. More emtional explaination. People can relate to that. That's a given.

you musn't have payed much attention.. cyclops imo was the only character hard to relate too...

See my explaination above. If you can't see how Scott never was shown going through the stages of grief properly it would explain why he shut himself off. Completly.

Storm: Has problems dealing with leadership, she was always a shadow, and
doesnt think she's good enough, and Xavier chose her to lead she's
the compassionate team member.. and rules with her heart

WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THIS FROM? Seriously I want to know. Storm has never had problems being a leader. The conversation with Xavier actually said that. Did you even watch the movie? Xavier gave her the job as leader because she's was currently the default choice. Cyke was no good, Logan is too immature to lead a team and not very dependable, Jean was dead and even if she wasn't she wouldn't be leading the team she works as a Mutant Activist and a doctor not alot of time for tacticle stuff, and Beast didn't even work in the mansion. Where did you get the idea that she thinks she is in the shadow? WTF, because we know nothing about her,we don't know what she thinks about herself, or anything outside of her hatred for humans or the cure. Watch the series again. Talk about grasping for straws, good lord. Lol. I thought we Rolo'ers were bad.

Beast/Nightcralwer/Mystique: They all deal with the issue of being physically
different one uses his brains to work his way
up the social ladder breaking the stereo type
along the way, another uses his faith while
beliving even in those who are doing wrong,
and the other is fueled by her hatred.

That's all great and good. But you kinda missed a point that I was trying to prove. How did Beast become blue between X2 (with a normal looking cameo and he was a doctor) and X3 where he was a politician? Who's gave birth to Nightcrawler, and why didn't she stick around? How did Magneto and Mystique meet? How close are they, and how devestated was she when Magneto walked away from her? Again these questions prove my point. No backround makes them unbelievable, and shallow. Why do they do some of the smaller things they do? What kind of people are they beneath the surface.

Angel/Iceman: Both are easily relateable for those who are gay.. with
iceman's coming out scene.. and both dealing with parents
dissaproval as well as there parents wanting them to change
Warren though also has the father/son issue going on

This is why didn't mention either one. These two NON-ORIGINAL movie-verse x-men got explainations, childhood scenes, familes, and reasons why they do the things they do, and why and how they got to the mansion.

Jean: Jean was always held back, she always felt left behind as if her powers
weren't strong enough, she felt like she was a risk to the team rather
then an asset. She loses control as the phoenix and is over whelmed..
her power controls her.

Yes, JEAN WAS THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE SHADOWS! Why do we know this as a fact? Because it was the one connection from X2 and X3 that was made. Xavier explained to Wolverine and Cyke that she felt left behind and in the shadow. The Phoenix HATED Xavier because of that. She never felt like a risk to the team. Again your grasping for straws. She left the plane in X2 because she felt like she was the only one who could do it. It was quiet obvious she wasn't thinking straight. Storm Iceman and Jean could have used their combinded strength and powers to hold the jet together, freeze the lake or build a damn, and use winds to fly the plane. Simple common sense she lacked at the end, it killed her and I lost the little respect I had for her. But its fixable.

Wolverine: the loner, the stubborn team mate with alot of rough ends.. but a
heart of gold, he likes to think he does things for himself.. but he
really does it because he likes to help

More straws, huh. He does it for himself. He chases Jean, not because she wants him, but to please himself. He convenently ignores how torn she is, and what it does to her realationship with Scott. Just in case you haven't noticed, he doesn't stick around, he isn't dependable, and he (not Storm) is the one who is overly emtional. He goes chasing after crap with no preparations, no plan, no team, and usually no good reason. He chased after Jean and his past, both times he came up empty because he didn't have the right information going in (numbnuts didn't bother going under in the base) and he forgot Magneto can stuff his foot up his metal behind.

Xavier: the dreamer, always believing he can over come any obstacle with
peace.. he is the martin luther king of the x-men

Finally, ya got one. But as history has showed pacifisim does work, but only haven't alot of blood is shed. Such a shame.

Magneto: scorned from his past he fears that like the nazi's the humans will eradicate those who are different.

That's two straws so far. Because we know about his PERSONAL backround we can REALATE to that. See what I mean. His character makes sense on screen. Thank you for proving my point.

Rogue: she deals with the physical difference from the inside, her difference is
hidden, and she feels cursed by who she is

The cure fixed that, didn't it. Problem solved. It only took three movies. Too bad she was a boring washout to begin with.

Colossus: no development

Psylocke: no development

And they will never get properly devolped. We wont see Colossus's life under the Iron Curtain, nor will we ever see Psy be a brittish ninja. Sucks.

Cyclops: little development, hes stubborn, got a temper, loves jean more
then anything, has a heart of gold, the leader of the team but out
shined by the new boy (wolverine). He falls apart with jeans death.

Yes, again with the lack of devolpment which was my point. TEMPER...where did you get that. He never showed an inkling of a personality until he told Logan to go to hell in X3. Heart of gold, really? Where? I didn't see. It's hard to tell when you get written down to nothing more than a gloried cameo who is a geek and not worthy of the main love intrest. Boooo, that sucks. I want to know why Scott was so uptight. They could tell us about the horrible life he lead on the streets, the abuse he had by Jack, or about his unaccounted for brother. Something, anything. All we get is he loves Jean, and he's the leader. That's it. YAWN!!!

So.. ya.. for the majority of the cast.. i do find them easily relateable..

I can see Iceman and Angel, but everything else had a major blah element.

maybe you just haven't experienced enough in your life

You have no idea about your last statement. So don't even go there, lets keep this on topic, the last person who tried that crap with me threw a tantrum, and made himself look like a hole.

 

[Uncanny]

http://www.dailynews.com/celebrities/ci_4177414

She said nothing about James Marsden at all.

That does not look good for Cyclops coming back. What do you guys think about this.



WOLVERINE AND X-MEN 4
Source: LA Daily News August 14, 2006

"X-Men" executive producer Lauren Shuler Donner talked to LA Daily News about X-Men 4, for which they would have to renegotiate with the bigger stars, and also Wolverine and Magneto:

"The newer cast members are signed, and the older cast members are not." Considering the older names involved -- Halle Berry, Hugh Jackman, Rebecca Romijn, Famke Janssen and Anna Paquin -- that could run into a huge chunk of money.

 

[swifty]

they can get rid of Anna Paquin, we really don't need her useless ass.

 

[ljr]

Yeah we do,rogue is one of three characters who aren't dead or who could be brought back with a reasonable explaination.Plus anna would be wayyyyyyyyyy cheaper to get back than the others she never asks for major paycheacks,plus if they bring gambit in they need rogue(that was one of the reasons they left him out cause producer kevin feiger thought the fans would want to see romy and there wasn't time).And if they go with the younger members she is the only one the general public have really got to know.Not to mention the bit where thyey name the older actors is not in quote marks so I don't think it was LSD who even mentioned those names it was the journalist.