The Amazing Spider-Man So now we've seen both, which was the best?

[Juicy J]

Anno_Domini had a pretty good point too:



Although I don't know that I agree about it making him 'more attractive' facially, it certainly would have made him more muscular and given him a newfound confidence that would have helped

Uh sorry... who made that point again?

 

[Anno_Domini]

Anno_Domini had a pretty good point too:



Although I don't know that I agree about it making him 'more attractive' facially, it certainly would have made him more muscular and given him a newfound confidence that would have helped

To be honest, I don't even remember saying that

Dont bring SM3 into this,that movie was ridiculous at some points

But yet you can't even answer me how Norman being into folklore would be any more ridiculous since we do have an alien symbiote.

So you nitpick because that wasnt a part of his persona?
Remind me again how your favourite movies have supervillians entirely dedicated to their comic book counterparts?
The Goblin in SM1 was excellent,its easy for us to say 'They should have done this and that' in our armchairs when those concepts wouldnt look good on the big screen and Raimi probably calculated that
Norman was potrayed as a dedicated and smart scientist who invested everything from his whole life to money into his Industry,making him a lunatic pre-serum who obsesses with Folk-lore wouldnt have been in line with his Pre-serum personlity

Lol, what other villains out there are named specifically for what they resemble but yet they don't look as such when they show up in a film?

The city wasnt afraid because they didnt know of his plan at all

So no one even saw a SWAT team being turned into lizards? Because it sure didn't seem like it when we saw zero panic coming from NY except for the news afterwards that Aunt May was watching that alluded to this so called panic that was unseen.

 

[Fox]

Uh sorry... who made that point again?

I'm sorry. I've edited and corrected my post. I must have gotten it mixed along the way somewhere.


Ah well. Thanks for catching my mistake.

 

[Spiderdevil]

But yet you can't even answer me how Norman being into folklore would be any more ridiculous since we do have an alien symbiote.

I dont want it to be as ridiculous as that.
And as I said before,it wouldnt have been in sync with his personality pre-serum.
A hard-working,genius,rich scientist and also has an obsession with Folk-lore..Wait..What??
If they go for a different personality in TASM(looks like they are) and portray him to be a lunatic pre-serum aswell,then I am all in for that look

Lol, what other villains out there are named specifically for what they resemble but yet they don't look as such when they show up in a film?

Jameson named him Green Goblin,Remind me again how Newspapers(especially the Daily Bugle) are particular about accuracy
Iron man is named Iron man in IM1 when he isnt even made of Iron

Its about Modernising things,most of the comic book elements were introduced in the 60s or maybe even before which is why some of them will look ridiculous on the big screen.That is why Joker didnt fall into a pit of chemicals,or acid wasnt thrown on Harvey Dent(Not exactly modernising though).And thats why GG's suit was modified to fit into the personality better.I bet Mandarin wont have superhuman powers in IM3 due to rings he found in a spaceship either

So no one even saw a SWAT team being turned into lizards? Because it sure didn't seem like it when we saw zero panic coming from NY except for the news afterwards that Aunt May was watching that alluded to this so called panic that was unseen.

There was panic,there is clear cut news about Cops evacuating the city(Which the construction worker and Aunt May were watching) and we clearly see people panicking on the streets when Spidey looks down when trying to get to OSCORP

I dont think civilians did see SWAT officers turn into Lizards(That street was deserted) and even if they did,they wouldnt have guessed that he was using a machine to do it on the whole city.Nevertheless there was Panic

 

[Anno_Domini]

I dont want it to be as ridiculous as that.
And as I said before,it wouldnt have been in sync with his personality pre-serum.
A hard-working,genius,rich scientist and also has an obsession with Folk-lore..Wait..What??
If they go for a different personality in TASM(looks like they are) and potray him to be a lunatic pre-serum aswell,then I am all in for that look

How would that even be ridiculous when we have a reboot where Peter finally has the idea of wearing a mask after he notices a poster involving luchadors? It's just something to influence some design or look and a creepy one at that.

And nothing wrong about a hard working, rich genius scientist being a fan of folklore or the occult. Norman had to have some fascination anyways to have any kind of set of masks in his mansion, so it's not something out of this world.

Jameson named him Green Goblin,Remind me again how Newspapers(especially the Daily Bugle) are particular about accuracy
Iron man is named Iron man in IM1 when he isnt even made of Iron

Tony Stark made a comment about that as well, but that's a nitpick from the very beginning of when Iron Man was called Iron Man in the comics, don't you think? Not something to really help your point about a film.

Its about Modernising things,most of the comic book elements were introduced in the 60s or maybe even before which is why some of them will look ridiculous on the big screen.That is why Joker didnt fall into a pit of chemicals,or acid wasnt thrown on Harvey Dent(Not exactly modernising though).And thats why GG's suit was modified to fit into the personality better.I bet Mandarin wont have superhuman powers in IM3 due to rings he found in a spaceship either

Modernizing is different than being named something but not really looking as such. Joker still looks like a clown and Two-Face still has two "faces". And Mandarin? That could still be a codename which had nothing to do with the ten rings. You're confusing points. You just asked if there was any villain that didn't resemble their names and only Green Goblin didn't resemble his name in Spider-Man. You asked about any names, not how villain are modernized with their looks or origins.

There was panic,there is clear cut news about Cops evacuating the city(Which the construction worker and Aunt May watching) and we clearly see people panicing on the streets when Spidey looks down when trying to get to OSCORP

I dont think civilians did see SWAT officers turn into Lizards and even if they did,they wouldnt have guessed that he was using a machine to do it on the whole city.Nevertheless there was Panic

I don't find that as sheer panic. I see us seeing news or hearing the news during the film to try to push such without really showing it from people as opposed to BB and TDK.

And as for the citizens not believing Lizard would be using a machine to turn the city into lizards, that may be true, but they could've thought Lizard would go around and spray the canisters of gas everywhere, or at least show citizens being afraid of the SWAT lizards.

 

[Spiderdevil]

How would that even be ridiculous when we have a reboot where Peter finally has the idea of wearing a mask after he notices a poster involving luchadors? It's just something to influence some design or look and a creepy one at that.

He goes for the mask because he realizes that he needs to hide his identity,then he designs a Spandex because he realizes it would work in increasing his velocity,In SM1 Peter designs the costume for the Wrestling tournament(The advertisement asks for Colourful characters),Goblin costume in the Glider suit he steals and a mask from one of his displays at home probably.Those are perfectly good explanations on their costumes

And nothing wrong about a hard working, rich genius scientist being a fan of folklore or the occult. Norman had to have some fascination anyways to have any kind of set of masks in his mansion, so it's not something out of this world.

It doesnt seem right,Not in sync with the personality
If he is a lunatic even before the serum then it may work

Modernizing is different than being named something but not really looking as such. Joker still looks like a clown and Two-Face still has two "faces". And Mandarin? That could still be a codename which had nothing to do with the ten rings. You're confusing points. You just asked if there was any villain that didn't resemble their names and only Green Goblin didn't resemble his name in Spider-Man. You asked about any names, not how villain are modernized with their looks or origins.

He is still Green and his face looks like Goblin's so it still works

I don't find that as sheer panic. I see us seeing news or hearing the news during the film to try to push such without really showing it from people as opposed to BB and TDK.

Please see the movie again,We see it through Spidey's eyes aswell.THe street is jam packed with Cars and People rushing like madmen

And the comparison with BB and TDK isnt even valid,In BB there was hallunating gas released along with Convicts(Big reason for the havoc) and in TDK the joker was causing widespread havoc,suspending dead bodies,broadcasting his lunatic killings,calling news channels,blowing up Hospitals,ships and what not.Not a giant lizard who very few people saw with their own eyes and probably no civilian saw the SWAT lizards and no one knows of his plan

Also in BB there is Dawes in the streets and also Batman.So its more apparent through their eyes,In TASM Peter is trying to get to OSCORP and Gwen is making an Antidote.How else are we supposed to see panic apart from news broadcasts and through Spidey's POV from the rooftops(both of which were shown)?
We see people panicking on the bridge aswell

And as for the citizens not believing Lizard would be using a machine to turn the city into lizards, that may be true, but they could've thought Lizard would go around and spray the canisters of gas everywhere, or at least show citizens being afraid of the SWAT lizards.

They were no citizens there to begin with,it was deserted even before the SWAT officers began shooting

 

[Anno_Domini]

He goes for the mask because he realizes that he needs to hide his identity,then he designs a Spandex because he realizes it would work in increasing his velocity,In SM1 Peter designs the costume for the Wrestling tournament(The advertisement asks for Colourful characters),Goblin costume in the Glider suit he steals and a mask from one of his displays at home probably.Those are perfectly good explanations on their costumes

Still doesn't excuse the fact that the mask's inspiration and influence was how a luchador wears a mask.

And the probably statement on the mask...no way he had that mask already. It fit too much into the green color scheme and was way too metallic green, had retractable eye lenses and even fit around his head perfectly, lol.

It doesnt seem right,Not in sync with the personality
If he is a lunatic even before the serum then it may work

Having some fascination doesn't make you a lunatic. Am I a lunatic because I enjoy the mythology of angels and demons? Am I a lunatic since I own a book on demonoloy as well on angel hierarchy?

He is still Green and his face looks like Goblin's so it still works

Only his face, so he should rather be called Green Goblin Face

Please see the movie again,We see it through Spidey's eyes aswell.THe street is jam packed with Cars and People rushing like madmen

And the comparison with BB and TDK isnt even valid,In BB there was hallunating gas released along with Convicts(Big reason for the havoc) and in TDK the joker was causing widespread havoc,suspending dead bodies,broadcasting his lunatic killings,calling news channels,blowing up Hospitals,ships and what not.Not a giant lizard who very few people saw with their own eyes and probably no civilian saw the SWAT lizards and no one knows of his plan

Also in BB there is Dawes in the streets and also Batman.So its more apparent through their eyes,In TASM Peter is trying to get to OSCORP and Gwen is making an Antidote.How else are we supposed to see panic apart from news broadcasts and through Spidey's POV from the rooftops(both of which were shown)?

The comparisons are valid when all three scenarios have panic within the city, but it's more shown in BB and TDK rather than TAS-M. I wanted to see the regular citizen doing something other than the viewer being told what was happening.

They were no citizens there to begin with,it was deserted even before the SWAT officers began shooting

So they got the entire city empty before Lizard even shows up? Who were Lizard trying to infect then? The birds and more rats?

 

[Duran Man]

I have to give it to Spider-Man.

 

[Juicy J]

I'm sorry. I've edited and corrected my post. I must have gotten it mixed along the way somewhere.


Ah well. Thanks for catching my mistake.

Haha its all good, just thought it was funny

 

[Fox]

How would that even be ridiculous when we have a reboot where Peter finally has the idea of wearing a mask after he notices a poster involving luchadors? It's just something to influence some design or look and a creepy one at that.

1. I got that the luchadors poster was just a different take on how he got his mask in the first place. Keep in mind he never got the mask so he could become a super hero. He got the mask to hide his identity so no one would know a teenager was hopping into the wrestling ring, while also showing off his powers. He wanted attention, but not exposure.

In this film they didn't give him the wrestling/tv gig so they needed a different reason for him to put on the mask. The Luchadors were a nice 'wink' to his wrestling career in prior adaptations while also not spending a ton of extra time on it.

2. I didn't think it was PURELY the luchador mask that gave him his inspiration. Keep in mind that he had just been in a fight with some guys who threatened to kill him if they ever saw his face again. Obviously Pete could have taken them, but it was there that the thought probably occurred to him that if he was going to keep going like this (fighting thieves and thugs etc.) that keeping his identity under wraps was probably not a bad idea. Combine that with the picture of the luchadors, men with tightly fitting masks (which unlikely to snag on things), and it gives Pete an idea.

The Luchador masks are also coupled with a history of actually concealing the identity of the wearer. Often the audience had no idea who was under the mask, and the true identity of the some wrestlers would be a mystery.

With all of that in mind, I don't really see how any of that is 'creepy' per se.

 

[Anno_Domini]

1. I got that the luchadors poster was just a different take on how he got his mask in the first place. Keep in mind he never got the mask so he could become a super hero. He got the mask to hide his identity so no one would know a teenager was hopping into the wrestling ring, while also showing off his powers. He wanted attention, but not exposure.

In this film they didn't give him the wrestling/tv gig so they needed a different reason for him to put on the mask. The Luchadors were a nice 'wink' to his wrestling career in prior adaptations while also not spending a ton of extra time on it.

2. I didn't think it was PURELY the luchador mask that gave him his inspiration. Keep in mind that he had just been in a fight with some guys who threatened to kill him if they ever saw his face again. Obviously Pete could have taken them, but it was there that the thought probably occurred to him that if he was going to keep going like this (fighting thieves and thugs etc.) that keeping his identity under wraps was probably not a bad idea. Combine that with the picture of the luchadors, men with tightly fitting masks (which unlikely to snag on things), and it gives Pete an idea.

The Luchador masks are also coupled with a history of actually concealing the identity of the wearer. Often the audience had no idea who was under the mask, and the true identity of the some wrestlers would be a mystery.

With all of that in mind, I don't really see how any of that is 'creepy' per se.

You misunderstand the context of why I brought up Peter being influenced by luchadors. I said it's not any ridiculous for Norman to be influenced or inspired of folklore or the occult in dressing up as a goblin since we see Peter being influenced by a luchador in a different Spider-Man film. And even if creepy, it could still be great inspiration for Osborn.

 

[Fox]

You misunderstand the context of why I brought up Peter being influenced by luchadors. I said it's not any ridiculous for Norman to be influenced or inspired of folklore or the occult in dressing up as a goblin since we see Peter being influenced by a luchador in a different Spider-Man film. And even if creepy, it could still be great inspiration for Osborn.

Oh I see. Yeah I can agree with you on that.

Basically it all all comes down to delivery. While it could come off as super cheesy, I don't think there's anything wrong with having a rich business man having eccentric hobbies.

Lex Luthor(especially from Smallville), was always talking about the Greeks and Romans, and collected various relics based around different ancient cultures and folklore. Osborn could do the same.

My thought, like (I think) you're saying, is that it would have to be played very off the cuff. Not so overplayed that everyone in the world would be aware of his interest in goblins, but just enough to imply that it could have an influence on his life as a super villain (especially if he was going nuts).

I think the concern some people would have is that it would be played over the top.

 

[The Slang]

I wish ASM didn't completely skip the idea of Parker using his powers to get money as an entertainer. It could've even occupied a decent portion of the movie. A wrestling scene would only have to last a few seconds, then like the comics we could of seen Spider-man get a manager and start doing stage and television appearances. We could see him start to get arrogant while showcasing his powers before learning his lesson about responsibility.

Too much of ASM was unnecessarily similar to the first movie when they could've just went with unused ideas from the comics. Rather than go the comic route and have Peter absent for Ben's death, which would have been different, we get a near identical image of Peter crying over Ben on the side walk (Uncle Ben's death was worse in every way imo). The train fight in ASM seemed like a less inspired version of the fight with flash, and seeing him break things got old fast.

 

[Anno_Domini]

The idea of getting a manager and appearing on television would have felt a little corny, but in all fairness, that kind of camp would have fit better with Raimi's films, imo.

 

[The Slang]

I don't think it would have necessarily made ASM any more corny than it is. Funnier maybe. Even if he didn't have a manager or appear on TV, seeing Spider-man perform for a crowd would've been a nice way to showcase his powers before he becomes a vigilante, as well as explain the costume and the name.

Without Spider-man first using his powers selfishly and failing to help another when capable, you ruin the lesson about responsibility. In ASM I don't even feel like Parker is responsible for Ben's death, and that event isn't the reason he becomes a superhero.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

This was much better.

 

[Fox]

Without Spider-man first using his powers selfishly and failing to help another when capable, you ruin the lesson about responsibility. In ASM I don't even feel like Parker is responsible for Ben's death, and that event isn't the reason he becomes a superhero.

I don't see how he was any less responsible. In both this and Raimi's flick Peter could have used his powers to stop the burglar but didn't out of spite towards the victim.

In both cases he was almost justified in not getting involved (the store clerk AND the show host/announcer were both *******s). But power isn't about justification it's about responsibility. With his power he was responsible to use it in a way that no one else could have (to stop the burglar when no one else safely could). Instead he chose not to for his own selfish reasons (he wanted to get back at the person/s who had wronged him. Pretty clear cut to me.

As for the rest of his behaviour, TASM all rang very true for me. Peter didn't start off just using his power irresponsibly left right and centre, but as he went along he started to use it more and more to show off and do as he pleased. It's not that he ever became evil or did anything outright illegal, but it felt very clear to me that he was starting to use his powers and live his life how he saw fit (as a teenager would do), that is to say, for his own benefit.

Even in the original story it's not that he's acting SO selfish by being on TV, technically he doesn't do anything wrong UNTIL he lets the burglar go. Everything up till that point was just stuffing for his slowly swelling head. Whether you have him go into show biz, or you have him show off a bit at school, the only thing that matters is the end result; Pete makes a choice at a critical moment that comes with permanent and life changing consequences.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I dont want it to be as ridiculous as that.
And as I said before,it wouldnt have been in sync with his personality pre-serum.
A hard-working,genius,rich scientist and also has an obsession with Folk-lore..Wait..What??
If they go for a different personality in TASM(looks like they are) and portray him to be a lunatic pre-serum aswell,then I am all in for that look

It's not like the serum created the Goblin personality out of thin air. It just made him crazy and worked with something that already was there, which is his liking in folklore for example. It's really usual for very rich people to have eccentric interests

 

[Smegger56]

I wish ASM didn't completely skip the idea of Parker using his powers to get money as an entertainer. It could've even occupied a decent portion of the movie. A wrestling scene would only have to last a few seconds, then like the comics we could of seen Spider-man get a manager and start doing stage and television appearances. We could see him start to get arrogant while showcasing his powers before learning his lesson about responsibility.

Too much of ASM was unnecessarily similar to the first movie when they could've just went with unused ideas from the comics. Rather than go the comic route and have Peter absent for Ben's death, which would have been different, we get a near identical image of Peter crying over Ben on the side walk (Uncle Ben's death was worse in every way imo). The train fight in ASM seemed like a less inspired version of the fight with flash, and seeing him break things got old fast.

You say they should have had a wrestling scene and shown him use his powers to make money and say you felt TASM unnecessarily similar to the first movie? Add them in and it would have felt similar lol.

But IMO, both films are very different in how they executed the origin and in tone. I think both films did a great job of telling the Origin in their own way. They kept the basic unle ben dies because of Pete being somewhat irresponsible, but they both are different and unique to their films IMO (yes, I'm complementing spidey 1 lol. With the exception of the robber death bit, it was a very good telling of the origin).

 

[Spiderdevil]

Still doesn't excuse the fact that the mask's inspiration and influence was how a luchador wears a mask.

Taking inspiration from a luchador mask is perfectly normal,especially for a teenager.Its nothing abnormal
While taking inspiration from Goblins and Folklore is definitely abnormal and lunatic behavior,Osborn in SM1 wasnt a lunatic pre-serum.If he is portrayed as one in TASM then it'll be fine

The times are gone when Villians used to costumed freaks,they are nowadays shown as serious beings and no villian can be taken seriously when he runs around in skin tight costumes.There's a reason why Nolan didnt use a luchodor mask on bane.
It is also why I dont want electro to have his classic starfish costume from the comics

And the probably statement on the mask...no way he had that mask already. It fit too much into the green color scheme and was way too metallic green, had retractable eye lenses and even fit around his head perfectly, lol.

Are you new to superhero movies?
Things like these happen all the time

Having some fascination doesn't make you a lunatic. Am I a lunatic because I enjoy the mythology of angels and demons? Am I a lunatic since I own a book on demonoloy as well on angel hierarchy?

If you make a costume out of it,you are

Only his face, so he should rather be called Green Goblin Face

And what part of DocOck looks like an octopus other than his multiple arms? So he should be called Doctor Octopus's arms?

The comparisons are valid when all three scenarios have panic within the city, but it's more shown in BB and TDK rather than TAS-M.

And thats realistic since the reason of Panic is a lot lesser in TASM(As far as the knowledge of the normal citizen)
Do you see no difference between a hallucinating gas which turns people into lunatics released on a large scale,or a mad terrorist blowing up hospitals and ships,attacking high profile people like the mayor,commissioners,judges and district attorneys,robbing banks,suspending dead bodies
And just a Giant Lizard running around town

I wanted to see the regular citizen doing something other than the viewer being told what was happening.

And how are we supposed to see that without a main character on the streets? Through News Broadcasts and Rooftops ofcourse

So they got the entire city empty before Lizard even shows up? Who were Lizard trying to infect then? The birds and more rats?

The SWAT officers empty the street in which the Lizard appears so one civilian sees him there or him turning SWAT into Lizards,then when he is climbing the OSCORP tower people cant see him either
The only time people see him are the bridge and the school and there's widespread panic

 

[Spiderdevil]

You misunderstand the context of why I brought up Peter being influenced by luchadors. I said it's not any ridiculous for Norman to be influenced or inspired of folklore or the occult in dressing up as a goblin since we see Peter being influenced by a luchador in a different Spider-Man film. And even if creepy, it could still be great inspiration for Osborn.

I have no problems if they go that way in TASM but as I've been saying,it wouldnt have fit Osborn's personality in SM1

 

[Spiderdevil]

I wish ASM didn't completely skip the idea of Parker using his powers to get money as an entertainer. It could've even occupied a decent portion of the movie. A wrestling scene would only have to last a few seconds, then like the comics we could of seen Spider-man get a manager and start doing stage and television appearances. We could see him start to get arrogant while showcasing his powers before learning his lesson about responsibility.

Too much of ASM was unnecessarily similar to the first movie when they could've just went with unused ideas from the comics. Rather than go the comic route and have Peter absent for Ben's death, which would have been different, we get a near identical image of Peter crying over Ben on the side walk (Uncle Ben's death was worse in every way imo). The train fight in ASM seemed like a less inspired version of the fight with flash, and seeing him break things got old fast.

Better still it could have been a skateboard freestyling competition

 

[Spiderdevil]

It's not like the serum created the Goblin personality out of thin air. It just made him crazy and worked with something that already was there, which is his liking in folklore for example. It's really usual for very rich people to have eccentric interests

It does create the lunatic personality out of thin air,the other Doctor did mention insanity as a Adverse effect in animal subjects

 

[Anno_Domini]

Going back to the topic of Spidey showing up on television beforehand, I would love to see that idea of Spider-Man appearing on television before he becomes the hero in the next reboot.

Taking inspiration from a luchador mask is perfectly normal,especially for a teenager.Its nothing abnormal
While taking inspiration from Goblins and Folklore is definitely abnormal and lunatic behavior,Osborn in SM1 wasnt a lunatic pre-serum.If he is portrayed as one in TASM then it'll be fine

Once more, no one needs to be a lunatic to have a fascination over stuff that others would assume would be "crazy".

And even then, your point doesn't make sense. His fascination can be before he takes any kind of serum and then afterwards, he makes a goblin-ish suit and mask. What's so wrong with that?

The times are gone when Villians used to costumed freaks,they are nowadays shown as serious beings and no villian can be taken seriously when he runs around in skin tight costumes.There's a reason why Nolan didnt use a luchodor mask on bane.
It is also why I dont want electro to have his classic starfish costume from the comics

Technically speaking though, Joker had a costume and Bane had a costume. The "times" are not over, lol.

I'll remember this if Green Goblin shows up because you just said the "times" are over, thus it would be ridiculous to see Green Goblin, yes?

Are you new to superhero movies?
Things like these happen all the time

Oh my god, what? Things like having that very specific mask already happens in movies all the time?

If you make a costume out of it,you are

If I were to take a serum that made me go insane to make a suit and mask, I'll be a lunatic. To have some fascination or something that interests me does not make me a lunatic.

And what part of DocOck looks like an octopus other than his multiple arms? So he should be called Doctor Octopus's arms?

Look at the comics. Doc Ock was always called Doctor Octopus mainly because of his arms, but Green Goblin is named that for resembling a green goblin-like creation and not just the neck up. Now you're trying to twist words around as you usually do by not making any sense there bud.

And thats realistic since the reason of Panic is a lot lesser in TASM(As far as the knowledge of the normal citizen)
Do you see no difference between a hallucinating gas which turns people into lunatics released on a large scale,or a mad terrorist blowing up hospitals and ships,attacking high profile people like the mayor,commissioners,judges and district attorneys,robbing banks,suspending dead bodies
And just a Giant Lizard running around town

As far as the knowledge of the normal citizen? When there's an evacuation and a SWAT team has just turned into lizards, there should have been MUCH MORE panic than in both BB or TDK.

And how are we supposed to see that without a main character on the streets? Through News Broadcasts and Rooftops ofcourse

We don't need a main character on the streets. Webb took some time on some construction worker for Christ's sake, so he could've shown regular citizens running around in the streets.

The SWAT officers empty the street in which the Lizard appears so one civilian sees him there or him turning SWAT into Lizards,then when he is climbing the OSCORP tower people cant see him either
The only time people see him are the bridge and the school and there's widespread panic

So now they've turned into lizards, people will still obey their order? That's nice...so there will still be law and order when people are lizards, hah.

I have no problems if they go that way in TASM but as I've been saying,it wouldnt have fit Osborn's personality in SM1

Disagree t:

 

[Spiderdevil]

And even then, your point doesn't make sense. His fascination can be before he takes any kind of serum and then afterwards, he makes a goblin-ish suit and mask. What's so wrong with that?

Once more,it would have been in sync with his pre-serum personality

Technically speaking though, Joker had a costume and Bane had a costume. The "times" are not over, lol.

The costume I mean is a skin tight outfit,the outfit a villian wears should make sense
Scarecrow had that mask to scare his patients with the gas,the scarecrow in the comics had a different outfit
Joker was a lunatic and him wearing facepaint just added to his personality
Bane outfit was also modernised,he wasnt given the luchodor look cause that would look ridiculous on the big screen
Seriously for all the praise you do for Nolan,you dont learn much from his methods

Similarly Goblin's costume in SM1 made sense since it was pilots suit and its the reason why they dont have the classic wolverine look in X-men movies
If he is a lunatic pre-serum in TASM's trilogy,I am all in for a Goblin-esque look(As long as it is skin tight latex)
In the same way I want Electro's look/costume to be more realistic and have a good explanation(Him wearing it to control electricity or something)

Oh my god, what? Things like having that very specific mask already happens in movies all the time?

Things happening which convinietly fits into the plot happens all the time
And I already admitted that the mask part wasnt made very clear

If I were to take a serum that made me go insane to make a suit and mask, I'll be a lunatic. To have some fascination or something that interests me does not make me a lunatic.

But it would not match your pernality if you are portrayed as a genius scientist who gives it all for his company

Look at the comics. Doc Ock was always called Doctor Octopus mainly because of his arms, but Green Goblin is named that for resembling a green goblin-like creation and not just the neck up. Now you're trying to twist words around as you usually do by not making any sense there bud.

I guess you havent read any USM comics
And nothing wrong in modifying the look

As far as the knowledge of the normal citizen? When there's an evacuation and a SWAT team has just turned into lizards, there should have been MUCH MORE panic than in both BB or TDK.

There wasnt because no civilian initially saw the swat lizards

We don't need a main character on the streets. Webb took some time on some construction worker for Christ's sake, so he could've shown regular citizens running around in the streets.

And he did show that,Jesus watch the movie again

So now they've turned into lizards, people will still obey their order? That's nice...so there will still be law and order when people are lizards, hah.

Because the complete police force has turned into Lizards? Stacy is not as mad as Foley,5-6 of them change and the rest of the police force is still in function
And about the people,'Hey they just evacuated that area to take down a giant lizard,lets go and see what came of it'