Spectacular spider-man's pros and cons to help with the fututre of the series

[The Caped Knight]

Here is a character design comparision chart. Its scientific. Decide whether YOU think they went too far with the designs or not, compared to the 90's show.

The 90's all the way .

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm eagerly awaiting for this to happen soon on this series.

I'm sure it will, it's too monumental not to happen.

 

[The Joker]

The 90's all the way .

Yes, when it comes to the animation, the 90's cartoon is far superior.

 

[pjspider1C]

^ I totally understand where you're coming from. But the kid audience is Spider-Man's biggest source of cash. You can slap Spider-Man's face on just about anything and they'll buy it. They're not purposely going to go out of their way and risk alienating any of that. They're in the business to make money. Not appease fans.

 

[Visionary]

power rangers fought monsters and not humans or human based evils...fighting monsters always makes things easier.

Not really, they were still humans in suits. No different from fighting The Rhino. Plus the violence in the Power Rangers were all over the news, with concerns from the parents, FOX and SABAN basically said screw the parents, this is making billions and never looked back.

 

[Kamarov]

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[The Caped Knight]

I'm sure it will, it's too monumental not to happen.

Well it better happen soon, Because this series needs a good female lead .

I swear if the opening credits didn't say Gwen Stacy , I'd swear the blonde in this series was in fact Debra Whitman .

 

[Kamarov]

I'm eagerly awaiting for this to happen soon on this series.

I hope not to soon. I want the characters really fleshed out and for some serious pacing, instead of jumping into the all too familiar territory.

 

[Kamarov]

Not really, they were still humans in suits. No different from fighting The Rhino. Plus the violence in the Power Rangers were all over the news, with concerns from the parents, FOX and SABAN basically said screw the parents, this is making billions and never looked back.

Saban had the right idea. Over a decade later, they're still raking in the dough.

 

[Kamarov]

^ I totally understand where you're coming from. But the kid audience is Spider-Man's biggest source of cash. You can slap Spider-Man's face on just about anything and they'll buy it. They're not purposely going to go out of their way and risk alienating any of that. They're in the business to make money. Not appease fans.

*cough* ultimate spider-man *cough*

 

[Visionary]

Yes, when it comes to the animation, the 90's cartoon is far superior.

I disagree, the first season was really good with it's animation, some episodes were greatly animated. After the first season it went down hill fast. To the point where they were rehashing various scenes throughout the new episodes. You want great consistant animation, that would be Batman TAS. As a whole, Spider-Man and X-Men simply couldn't compare. For the 90s series, I'll give him the first season and a few episodes in season two, but the show as a whole was not consistant in animation, with 5 seasons, most of the animation was sloppy. Thus, is why I say the 90s show isn't hard to beat, it's the first season that's hard to beat.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I hope not to soon. I want the characters really fleshed out and for some serious pacing, instead of jumping into the all too familiar territory.

Fleshed out what ????

Harry's already a spinless rich boy

Liz is Flash's girl

Gwen's Debra Whitman

Puny Parker's already an outcasted

And Spidey's an urband Legend

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I hope not to soon. I want the characters really fleshed out and for some serious pacing, instead of jumping into the all too familiar territory.

She probably won't be introdcued for a few more episodes.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Well Mary Jane Watson made her offical on screen debut in The Amazing Spider-Man # 42 at the very end of the issue just before Spider-Man would face-off against The The Rhino .

So it's possible the episode either before or after the Rhino is introduced MJ will join the series .

 

[Kamarov]

Fleshed out what ????

Harry's already a spinless rich boy

Liz is Flash's girl

Gwen's Debra Whitman

Puny Parker's already an outcasted

And Spidey's an urband Legend

This is early days. I want these characters to grow, go through social changes and evolve. We see Liz as Flash' girl who's the stereotypical chick who thinks studying is a waste and has no time for squares like pete but already we've seen she's developing a liking to him. I want to see this fleshed out as well as with other characters. Gwen isn't deborah witman, she's a school girl who just so happens to wear glasses but her character in terms of her area of study is still the same as it was in the comcis. I want to see her grow, see her blossom. It's only been 2 episodes, dude. What is MJ going to bring that we havn't already seen before? MJ is nothing special, this series ca afford to wait with her character.

 

[Kamarov]

She probably won't be introdcued for a few more episodes.

I'd prefer it if she was introduced either at the end of season 1 or at the start of season 2.

 

[Visionary]

I doubt they're going to wait that long to introduce MJ. I'd say she's got from episode 3 to 8.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well Mary Jane Watson made her offical on screen debut in The Amazing Spider-Man # 42 at the very end of the issue just before Spider-Man would face-off against The The Rhino .

So it's possible the episode either before or after the Rhino is introduced MJ will join the series .

Now that I defenitlkey see happening. The fifth episode defenitley seems likley.

 

[animefan]

Peter's face... hate the nose and the dumb mole.

Harry's voice needs to go through puberty already.

thats and the vulture costume were the only things i didnt like

 

[IamProdigy]

I disagree, the first season was really good with it's animation, some episodes were greatly animated. After the first season it went down hill fast. To the point where they were rehashing various scenes throughout the new episodes. You want great consistant animation, that would be Batman TAS. As a whole, Spider-Man and X-Men simply couldn't compare. For the 90s series, I'll give him the first season and a few episodes in season two, but the show as a whole was not consistant in animation, with 5 seasons, most of the animation was sloppy. Thus, is why I say the 90s show isn't hard to beat, it's the first season that's hard to beat.

I agree with that, but there's another reason about the change of animation and designs and it's that the animation might have been great, with making eyes the normal size and what not, but it wasn't fluid, so they had to make a sleeker look, and it probably is the animation for this "age", but it makes the characters flow faster and makes the action sequences much better. And that's a good thing. I really enjoyed Venom and his look and right now I'm not enjoying the new design, but he'll work with the series though.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

What?! You're talking about Deborah Whitman in the 'old series', NOT Liz Allen. Liz Allen was not in the old series AT ALL from what I remember. If you want to talk Liz Allen, check out the original comics. As for Gwen and Harry being bookworms, this is a depiction of them in highschool, NOT in college. In the original comics, we don't meet them until college, and in this cartoon, they are re-imagining what they would be like in highschool if they were friends with Peter back then. I'm glad they didn't go with the James Franco movie version of Harry.

Sorry I meant Deb. Got the two mixed up my apologies. But I still don't understand why Gwen, Harry, or Brock would all be bookworms. Does being Venom suddenly turn Brock into a brutish, animalistic terror with fangs, claws, and a longue tongue or does he retain his intelligence if he is suppose to be Connors' pupil, proteje', whatever he is suppose to be?

Harry I'm disappointed with because they turned him into a geeky, pimply, freckled nerd; more of a nerd than Pete. I like the cocky, over-confident Harry the one who has his dad's chip on his shoulder but also can't live up to the standards of his father. It'd been cool if they would've changed the character development and made Harry a friend of Brock's and Pete's. Brock however would be with the cool kids and Harry would be the kind of guy who hangs out with everyone; Pete of course would get shunned. Brock would ask Harry why he hangs with a loser like Peter and at times it'd become a battle or struggle for Harry to answer and stay Pete's friend.

They also downplayed Harry being a ladies man. I know.... I know.... It's only been 2 episodes but it seemed Pete had the luck with the ladies. Watching Liz, it seemed like he was going to get a possible relationship and then of course she turned into a "cheerleader *****." Even Gwen it seems like a relationship is coming but it feels like "just friends." Where is Harry's arm candy?

But that's just my opinion and how I would do things.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Because in the 1990's apparently kids were murdering each other for days at a time wearing Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers motorcycle helmet masks and now cartoons have to be sensitive to our ******ed little developing minds.

Venom isn't that bad, Harry isn't either even though his wardrobe and voice suck, but Jameson is probably the only design I like. I don't like hippie-version Aunt May. Yeah, it works for Ultimate Spider-Man, but May has always been to me that sweet, little old lady whom you could consider a neighbor, friend, or your own aunt.

Long live the 90's series.

 

[Venom 1988]

thats and the vulture costume were the only things i didnt like

Really? I thought his costume was a big improvement.

 

[diespinne]

Really? I thought his costume was a big improvement.

Me too! He actually sported the colors of a vulture, and I liked that he had some sort of head gear instead of an exposed bald head just waiting to get whacked by something. I also liked how the first time you see him donning his costume, he's bathed in green light, so you do get to see a green version of it briefly.

 

[animefan]

Really? I thought his costume was a big improvement.

i sort of did, i would of loved it if had some green on it though.