Spectacular spider-man's pros and cons to help with the fututre of the series

[Nathan]

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

You know your on the Hype when you hear people b*tching about Peter Parker's beauty mark.



Come on now...

 

[Arcturus]

You know your on the Hype when you hear people b*tching about Peter Parker's beauty mark.



Come on now...

Agreed.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

You know your on the Hype when you hear people b*tching about Peter Parker's beauty mark.



Come on now...

Lol.

 

[Sawyer]

I dont have a problem with the "beauty mark" as much as I do his ridiculously huge eyes.

And Liz's voice was AWFUL

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Pros:
- The spectacular Spidey animations while jumping swinging etc
- the movie feel of spidey movements.
- Feels a lot like the comic book.
- the mix of ultimate spider-man and 616 spidey in one series.
- The Lee/Ditko feel of the series.
-Norman Osborne---even though his hairdo is a bit much but he clearly resembles Willem Defoe with his mannerisms and overall approach to Peter and Harry. Pete he sees as the son he wished he had, whereas Harry he sees as an embarrassment.
- I liked how offscreen we got the sense that Keith David might be voicing The Kingpin.
- Electro with the gas mask wasn't too bad but once he turned into a bastardized version of his Ultimate self than he lost me.


Cons:
- peter's nose and eyes are way too horrible so is all character's eyes pretty much.
-Horrible voice-acting from the actor playing Harry Osborne. He sounds more like a nerd than Pete. They could've gotten someone like Ian Zerieng from the MTV show who sort of sounds like James Franco.
- Liz being a hispanic
- Gwen looking more like Liz Allen than looking like what she does in the comics.
- The constant cameos, guest-spots, and overcrowding and cramming of storylines and characters.

- Doc Ock's look, Vulture's look, and pretty much all of the characters themselves.

-Brock being made into a big, bulky fat ass.

- Hammerhead's new look. He looks more like Flattop from "Dick Tracy" or someone who has an oblong-shaped head tumor.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

Pros:
- The spectacular Spidey animations while jumping swinging etc
- the movie feel of spidey movements.
- Feels a lot like the comic book.
- the mix of ultimate spider-man and 616 spidey in one series.
- The Lee/Ditko feel of the series.
-Norman Osborne---even though his hairdo is a bit much but he clearly resembles Willem Defoe with his mannerisms and overall approach to Peter and Harry. Pete he sees as the son he wished he had, whereas Harry he sees as an embarrassment.
- I liked how offscreen we got the sense that Keith David might be voicing The Kingpin.
- Electro with the gas mask wasn't too bad but once he turned into a bastardized version of his Ultimate self than he lost me.


Cons:
- peter's nose and eyes are way too horrible so is all character's eyes pretty much.
-Horrible voice-acting from the actor playing Harry Osborne. He sounds more like a nerd than Pete. They could've gotten someone like Ian Zerieng from the MTV show who sort of sounds like James Franco.
- Liz being a hispanic
- Gwen looking more like Liz Allen than looking like what she does in the comics.
- The constant cameos, guest-spots, and overcrowding and cramming of storylines and characters.

- Doc Ock's look, Vulture's look, and pretty much all of the characters themselves.

-Brock being made into a big, bulky fat ass.

- Hammerhead's new look. He looks more like Flattop from "Dick Tracy" or someone who has an oblong-shaped head tumor.

If it works why not? And IMO it did work. And come on guys, are we complaining over Liz Allan being hispanic? I know it's a change but it's not like she's a huge character in the Spidey mythos. It's not like they are going to change MJ to Asian or JJJ to African American. I think the complaint over that is hideous. But I do see where some of you guys are getting at with her voice character though.

 

[Webhead2006]

actually keith david isnt kingpin. Kingpin was confirmed to be off limits for variety of reasons. The character david voice is an actual villain from the comics. Check out the bio on the character from spiderfan.org: http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/big_man.html

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

If it works why not? And IMO it did work. And come on guys, are we complaining over Liz Allan being hispanic? I know it's a change but it's not like she's a huge character in the Spidey mythos. It's not like they are going to change MJ to Asian or JJJ to African American. I think the complaint over that is hideous. But I do see where some of you guys are getting at with her voice character though.

It worked to a sense, but it also was like "SPIDER-MAN 3"---let's see how much storyline can we weave and twine into a ball to last a half-hour. Sorry, didn't cut it for me. I'd give the show a 6/10 overall but it ain't a 10/10 4 star-hit like some of you are making it. Yes, Spidey moves faster because of the fluidness and impressiveness of the webslinging animation, but aerial fights and a fast-moving Spidey can't escape dodgy, poorly-constructed designs, too much emphasis on how many characters and villains can we fit onscreen, and semi-great voice-acting. Personally, didn't mind Joe Dimaggio as Rhino or some of the other cast but a new voice-actor has to come in for Harry. He sounds like he hasn't hit puberty yet. Harry was the one who got friends, got in trouble, and got girls---yet here he seems like he is a bigger geek and more timid than Pete is. Peter has on these skater-like clothes, long scruffy hair, and seems more like he is less a science nerd and more of a badass.

And lastly onto Liz Allen. I don't care if they changed her hair color but I didn't like that they changed her to be some dumb prep girl who needs bookworm Peter to tudor her. I like the Liz Allen from the old series who worked alongside Connors. Here it seems they wanted Gwen to look like Liz. And Brock looks like a total fat-ass. Same goes for Flash Thompson.

And sorry but I'll stay say the designs look like Playskool toys; it seems like this show was geared for new Spidey fans 4-up and tots.

 

[Venom 1988]

actually keith david isnt kingpin. Kingpin was confirmed to be off limits for variety of reasons. The character david voice is an actual villain from the comics. Check out the bio on the character from spiderfan.org: http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/big_man.html

Yea hes mentioned twice by name

Alex (aka Rhino) - "Not after the Big Man takes his cut anyway"
Hammerhead - "C'mon the Big Man wants a word"

 

[Venom 1988]

It worked to a sense, but it also was like "SPIDER-MAN 3"---let's see how much storyline can we weave and twine into a ball to last a half-hour.

Well thats because the season is broken up into different arcs, with storylines branching over several episodes. There doing this for DVD reasons, much like TPB is for comics nowadays. Maybe it might be a better watch for you seeing the first 4 episodes or so back to back.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Well thats because the season is broken up into different arcs, with storylines branching over several episodes. There doing this for DVD reasons, much like TPB is for comics nowadays. Maybe it might be a better watch for you seeing the first 4 episodes or so back to back.

I suppose but the designs really ruin the enjoyment I could have for this. If the same people who made the new Ninja Turtles did the designs I would be happy. If the same people who did the designs for Clone Wars or these:

I would be happy as well. Hell, it would've been really cool to have gotten the writers/animators from the "Ultimate Avengers" movies to do this show but nope they couldn't do it.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

Alright, NTF, go on complaining. The rest of us are just going to watch and enjoy the cartoon....


SEE YA!

 

[Nathan]

If the same people who made the new Ninja Turtles did the designs I would be happy.

And me as well. The cartoon is good, fluid animations and a good story, but the art could definitely need a few tweaks.

If the art would actually look as good at this, the cartoon would be way more enjoyable.





Honestly, I actually preferred Electro with his mask on. I think that speaks volumes. What annoys me the most, is the fact that they are capable of drawing a badass Electro, but decided to go with the button eyes look and Mr. Incredible chin.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

Here's something I need to tell you guys...



The artist is not changing


So get used to it...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Guys, your judging the art too early on. You'll probably get used to it and if you don't, well then there's always the 1990's series to watch instead of this.

 

[Nathan]

I just can't wait till the current trend of drawing everything simple and deformed is over. Wonder how many years it'll take.

 

[strugler]

Well i would really love to know how old are all of you who are enjoying the art style so we can get an idea. Anyway there is question that the animation is great and the music rocks, but for me, for now comparing the first 2 episodes of this to those of the 90's show, i prefer the 90's show.

And just so you know i just watched the first season of the 90's show over the weekend and my only complain was the cgi backgrounds and the music sucks other than that its rock-on.

If the guys behind the SSM wants their show to be known as THE spiderman animated series of all time im afraid that they need change the artstyle and get sony to give them more cash for that coz really the art is keeping me away from enjoying this new series.

i am 26 by the way in case anybody is wondering.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well i would really love to know how old are all of you who are enjoying the art style so we can get an idea. Anyway there is question that the animation is great and the music rocks, but for me, for now comparing the first 2 episodes of this to those of the 90's show, i prefer the 90's show.

And just so you know i just watched the first season of the 90's show over the weekend and my only complain was the cgi backgrounds and the music sucks other than that its rock-on.

If the guys behind the SSM wants their show to be known as THE spiderman animated series of all time im afraid that they need change the artstyle and get sony to give them more cash for that coz really the art is keeping me away from enjoying this new series.

i am 26 by the way in case anybody is wondering.

I'm 14, and I know some of the other guys are over 20 years old, so it really doesn't matter how old we are. Also, The show is still going to be THE Spider-Man animated series, whether people like it or not. Tons of people, such as myself, love the art so there really is no way they are going to change it.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

I suppose but the designs really ruin the enjoyment I could have for this. If the same people who made the new Ninja Turtles did the designs I would be happy. If the same people who did the designs for Clone Wars or these:

I would be happy as well. Hell, it would've been really cool to have gotten the writers/animators from the "Ultimate Avengers" movies to do this show but nope they couldn't do it.

My son has quite a few Pirates things with this style. I'd love to see a Pirates cartoon using this character designs!

Getting back to Spider-Man, I really love the new Spider-Man style. I have been there since the 60's cartoon and I think Spectacular is the BEST from an art style point of view, and that includes the 90's show. I love it when things are stylized (can't wait for the new Clone Wars cartoon either!). When they try to get "Too real" like what you think the 90's show was, it gets too stiff. Then, they try and cut corners and sometimes they look just off and awkward. This show (at least through the first 2 episodes), has maintained it's style and the animation is very fluid, the best it's been!

Would I prefer more webs on Spidey's costume? Yeah, but to make the cartoon action kick ass, I'll take this compromise. Plus I like the eyes (I am very picky about Spidey's eyes).

If I want realism, I'd like to see it done in the style of comics when Gil Kane did pencils & John Romita Sr. did inks (the time around the deaths of Gwen & the Green Goblin). But I know that would be WAY too cost prohibitive. Besides, I dig this cartoony style!

And you guys are talking He-Man? Are you kidding me? I know I am older than most of you (I know not all, Capt. Stacy), so I was already in college I think when that show came out. I saw it for what it was. A limited animated show to sell toys.

Seriously, you want He-Man style and animation over this new Spidey?? Seriously???

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Well i would really love to know how old are all of you who are enjoying the art style so we can get an idea. Anyway there is question that the animation is great and the music rocks, but for me, for now comparing the first 2 episodes of this to those of the 90's show, i prefer the 90's show.

And just so you know i just watched the first season of the 90's show over the weekend and my only complain was the cgi backgrounds and the music sucks other than that its rock-on.

If the guys behind the SSM wants their show to be known as THE spiderman animated series of all time im afraid that they need change the artstyle and get sony to give them more cash for that coz really the art is keeping me away from enjoying this new series.

i am 26 by the way in case anybody is wondering.

OK, for the record, I'm 43.

I have the entire 60's Spider-Man on DVD (the show that started it all for me). I have taped EVERY episode of the 90's series.

This Spectacular Spider-Man is THE Spider-Man show. (I give the 60's theme song an edge, but this new theme is better than all the others).

The MTV show was wrong on all levels. The only thing I liked was the way Spider-Man looked and moved. Everything else was wrong.

 

[Venom 1988]

Well i would really love to know how old are all of you who are enjoying the art style so we can get an idea.

I'll be 20 in 3 months. Also just so you know I grew up watching reruns and VHS of the 80s cartoon, then later on watched the 90s show when it first aired on Fox.

 

[IamProdigy]

OK, for the record, I'm 43.

****...haha.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

22 here.

 

[Venomfan]

i'm 20, and i liked most of the stuff on the show, but i'll just list the negatives since there are less of them

-Spider-man is a weakling, he can't get out of Ox's hold, or even keep up with fancy dan, two non powered people
-Harry's voice is awful
-Liz Allen, everything about her
-Gwen should look more the comic, too nerdy looking, although maybe after she becomes friends with MJ or Liz they'll give her a makeover, but she should be the kind of girl who is friends with everyone, the cool kids and the nerds, kinda like a intermediary
-the black suit shown in the opening is a terrible change
-pointless villain redesigns, the classics are better, although Vultures is just as good, although they could shorten his nose big time
-the animation style they went with makes it look like the show is meant for 4 year olds imo
-not really a fan of Brock being a nerd

i think i like the rest though

oh yah and it's funny how you can tell before reading their reviews which people were gonna say it was perfect no matter what