Sequels Spider-Man 4 and 5 Shooting At The Same Time?

If the original cast doesn't return, I'd like them to subtitle their movies from now on(still with the numbers) like: 'Spider-Man 4: The Stacy Tragedy' or whatever(something to do with the events of the film). I'd like to see this happen because I consider it to be a continuation, yes, but a rebirth as well. This one's said to be darker and what-not and I think that they have to start off again fresh to appeal to even more audiences.
 
1. Ock doesn't have to be dead, the news report in Jamesons office reads 'Doc Ock on the loose etc." so he doesn't have to be dead.

Regardless, he became good guy at the end. Making him evil again ruins what Spider-Man 2 set out to do.

2. Kingpin tells Sandman he will cure his daughter or whatever

Except that FOX has the rights to Kingpin.

3. with 2 movies to tell one story i'm sure they can give every character their justice. Ock and Sandman don't even have to be in 4. Have 4 feature Mysterio and have Kraven be a secondary villain. Electro imo needs very little back story for a film so he can be taken care of easily

And what about Lizard? We have to wait till Spider-Man 6 for Lizard?

The Matrix
Pirates
LOTR
The Potter films
The 2 Back to the Future sequels

Lets not forget Superman 1 & 2.
 
I might be the only one who thinks this, lol, but they should keep Spider-Man 4 and 5 completely away from S-M3 as in, since Harry is dead, keep the Osborns off of it...get a new Peter Parker, Mary Jane Watson and a new director, because Sam Raimi will most likely be a producer anyways...and use villains like Lizard, Kraven, Electro, and maybe 616 Shocker...one can hope for at least a nice cameo of him. Just because Spider-Man 3 COULD'VE been a brilliant movie, but it was a horrible one instead so I would keep 4 and 5 away from the last three movies with a 20-foot pole...and not even call it Spider-Man 4 and Spider-Man 5...if the writer wrote a script that spans over two movies, then they should be by themselves with something like Spider-Man: -other title here-

Just my two cents on this.
 
honestly I don't really have any confidence in the spider-man movies anyways. I honestly think they are going to bite. Part 2 was the last good spidey movie were gonna get untill there is a revamp.

I think they only thing the movies can offer at this point is special effects. In that case I guess I'd really like to see Carnage, just for the special effects. I guess Chamelon, since he can morph from one villain to the next, creating some interesting fight combos.
 
So...one bad movie and you're done. wow. Advice: Don't watch the James Bond series.

Wow pwned all bandwagon SM haters mad props Catman!

I don't think 3 is the best movie ever but if they come back with a strong 4 and 5, 3 will hardly be noticable like Temple of Doom or like you said like Die Another Day or what not

And from earlier Catman about the Lizard and Sinister Six etc. I don't know if I am married to the Lizard as the next villain but he will be sweet if he is. If the sacrifice is made for the Sinister Six I am all for it. But the Lizard will make a sweet villain when he is used
 
Didn't pwn me, lol...I'm not a James Bond fan except for the Connery-era Bond and now the Daniel Craig Bond...Casino Royale was bomb-diggity.
 
I kind of feel the same.

My excitement level will all depend on the news coming in the near future. About who is on board and who isn't as well as who the villain/s will be.

Agreed

If Raimi returns....i dont know how excited i'd be.

I really want Spidey to return to marvel, so he can join up with all the other heroes.....maybe a New Avengers movie?? (of course....assuming X-Men goes back too)

:( :(
 
Agreed

If Raimi returns....i dont know how excited i'd be.

I really want Spidey to return to marvel, so he can join up with all the other heroes.....maybe a New Avengers movie?? (of course....assuming X-Men goes back too)

:( :(


It's not necessarily Raimi I'm worried about. If the studio and producers back off(I'm looking at you Avi Arad) and let Raimi do his own thing like he had with the first two I don't think we'll get the mess that was Spider-Man 3 again.

What my main concern is, is Mary Jane/Kirsten Dunst.

If they get Kirsten back there going to have too many relationship woes again! She got too big of a head from the first two if not the first alone.

I know some will disagree with me but sorry...the character Mary Jane needs to take a major back seat in the story. She was/is an important part of Spider-Man/Parker's life in the comics but if you compare the comics to the films...she shouldn't have gotten as much screen time as she did.

She's important but never should be that big of a focus. If they keep going strong with their relationship ups and downs I'm done with the series till a full on reboot.

My point with Dunst is, if they got a lesser known actress who will be happy to get a "big break" she won't have the pull and possibly ego to want a lot of screen time...hopefully.:woot:
 
Didn't pwn me, lol...I'm not a James Bond fan except for the Connery-era Bond and now the Daniel Craig Bond...Casino Royale was bomb-diggity.

No what I was saying is that there is so much of this outcry that there shouldn't be a SM4 because 3 wasn't as good as the first two and that we should reboot etc. I'm just like...serious? If 4 and 5 are as good or close to the first two you know what the general reaction to Spiderman 3 is going to be? Essentially what the reaction to Temple of Doom is, its alright just clearly the worst. I myself think SM3 is about as good as Temple of Doom is which is clearly the worst of the three but whatever they both fit with the series
 
Didn't pwn me, lol...I'm not a James Bond fan except for the Connery-era Bond and now the Daniel Craig Bond...Casino Royale was bomb-diggity.

That much we agree on...though I'm not sure what the hell bomb-diggity means, nor do I want to know.
 
I can't believe people actually think that they're filming these movies back to back. Sony has always been dead set against it, and no, I do not believe they changed their mind. There's something bogus about this tidbit, although, it would be nice if James Vanderbilt finished the first draft of the script.

Damn, we use to have many sources, now all we have are lies...lies I tell you.
 
If this is true, I hope they only produce two films at the same time if they really know what they're doing. I don't want Spider-Man 3's cast times two at one time for double the poor result.
 
I can't believe people actually think that they're filming these movies back to back. Sony has always been dead set against it, and no, I do not believe they changed their mind. There's something bogus about this tidbit, although, it would be nice if James Vanderbilt finished the first draft of the script.

Damn, we use to have many sources, now all we have are lies...lies I tell you.

Since when?
 
It's not necessarily Raimi I'm worried about. If the studio and producers back off(I'm looking at you Avi Arad) and let Raimi do his own thing like he had with the first two I don't think we'll get the mess that was Spider-Man 3 again.

What my main concern is, is Mary Jane/Kirsten Dunst.

If they get Kirsten back there going to have too many relationship woes again! She got too big of a head from the first two if not the first alone.

I know some will disagree with me but sorry...the character Mary Jane needs to take a major back seat in the story. She was/is an important part of Spider-Man/Parker's life in the comics but if you compare the comics to the films...she shouldn't have gotten as much screen time as she did.

She's important but never should be that big of a focus. If they keep going strong with their relationship ups and downs I'm done with the series till a full on reboot.

My point with Dunst is, if they got a lesser known actress who will be happy to get a "big break" she won't have the pull and possibly ego to want a lot of screen time...hopefully.:woot:

I went back and watched the first 2....and i realised how bad they were...ok maybe not 2, its still pretty good.

I dont like the Casting, the writing, the direction at times...i feel spidey is frozen in time in this trilogy.
Each movie had the SAME THEME and Tobey just makes a terrible spidey (you already dug deep into MJ)


really, they should just reboot the franchise under marvel...of course it wont happen as Sony has themselves a major cash cow no matter how bad the films can be
 
Since when?

I agree, I think filming two sequels back to back works out to be cheaper than two separate films years apart. If the box office holds (which it should with the Spidey franchise) it would be much more cost effective.

The big drawback, is that in recent times such films don't do well with the critics. But the box office still holds. So I assume that crappier fims still have some sort of consequence for studios even with decent box office.

Certainly this seems to partly the case for Spider-man. Nobody can deny that SM3 did very well financially, but it was easily the worst of the trilogy. And it was reasonably far down the "good comicbook movie" league. If it was all about box-office we would have SM4 confirmed for 2010 a long time ago (regardless of strikes and 3-picture deals and whatnot).
 
If the story is strong enough, I am all for back-to-back films. However, if this is like Pirates where the first part was awesome (DMC) while in the 2nd part they are desperately trying to make the movie longer (like AWE), than I am not.

Hope we hear more on cast/crew for this soon. Wonder what story he is using to spread over 2 films?
 
I do remember Sony saying that, but there could be many reasons they'd change their minds try a back-to-back movie. This news may very well be false (except for the script being turned in I think), but maybe Sony, seeing the $$$ SM3 made, wants Raimi to do 2 more with Tobey & Kirsten. Maybe Sony feels it'd be easier to make $$$ on SM4 with a new cast by ending it on a cliffhanger and forcing people to come back for SM5 (thus making SM5 an almost sure fire success).

Not saying this report is true, just saying I can see why Sony might opt to do this instead of their one at a time policy. Though I have no clue what they'd do for back-to-back films. Only the SS or maybe KLH make sense to me (though I feel KLH would be a stretch to attempt over two films, as a lot would have to be added). No way they'd want to try clones or any of the other craptastic arcing stories, so I have no idea what they are going for here.
 
Regardless, he became good guy at the end. Making him evil again ruins what Spider-Man 2 set out to do.

Yeah and The Star Wars prequels ruins what the Original trilogy set out to do:o

What they care about is the $$$.

I'm up for this as long as the story's good. Have no problem with the 3 amigos of Raimi, Maguire, and Dunst returning either.
 

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