Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 3

[psylockolussus]

I don't think it was that scary, well the first hour was. I still prefer the Conjuring movies and Annabelle 2. But good for Wb consistently making these good horror flicks! I usually skip this kind of movies but they definitely got my attention recently.

I don't know what to think for the sequel but I will watch it when it comes out.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Again some of the stuff you guys are criticizing for not being scary are things that I laughed at...you know...because he's a clown...and clowns look silly and do silly things. I'd be shocked if it wasn't an intentional decision to blend cheesiness and silliness with what are otherwise scary Horror movie scenes.

Have you seen Krampus? It has toys killing people in horrific, gruesome ways.

And sure, clowns are silly, but if there was an actual clown IN YOUR HOUSE. trying to KILL YOU. YOU WONT BE LAUGHING THEN.

 

[Stark Bauer]

It's not just impressive, 'IT's abso-f**king-lutely legendary. 'IT' is an 'R' rated, Horror movie (inherently front-loadaed) and a Stephen King adaptation (dedicated fanbase further front-loading) opening in 'September' with schools back in session and the movie did not release in '3D' so no case of inflated ticket prices increasing the OW and all of this against a Category 4-5 Hurricane, which also happens to be one of the biggest ever in history of USA with one State almost totally shut down and we can add the NFL games opening on top of all these heavy odds. All the odds were stacked against 'IT'. But 'IT' came out with flying colors breaking records left and right. 'IT' is right up there with 'American Sniper' and 'Deadpool' as the greatest OW story of all time (I would not count the 150 million + budgeted behemoths in this). I think 'IT' might be the greatest story, already way better than 'Deadpool' and slightly edging American Sniper'.

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION:

1. the previous month was the worst for the box office in over a decade.

2. There are no big named A lister actors in IT, it is essentially, an Indie movie.

3. The director is unknown and not a big name.

4. Clowns. They are not appealing. at all.

5. Society. We don't usually pay to see a movie unless the public think it is worth their money. The majority stream/download movies, taking away potential BO profits.

 

[Stark Bauer]

It's better than the book.

 

[danoyse]

Did anyone else think that the kid who played Georgie is a dead ringer for Miko Hughes' Gage in Pet Sematary?

A little. When I first saw Pet Sematary, I was amazed that they got away with as much as they did using a kid that young (even though you can clearly see a double for some of the more violent stuff). I read Pet Sematary about a year before the movie came out, and at the time I didn't even think they could make a movie out of it because of all the stuff with Gage.

I felt the same way with the kid in this movie. That was such an intense role for a kid his age, and he completely nailed it.

 

[Frankeh]

I loved this.

 

[Stark Bauer]

The BIGGEST thing that struck me of the child cast was the fact that IF a Muhammad Ali film ever gets made gain, you'd have to cast the actor who played Mike as Ali, his facial likeness and characteristics,even his voice pattern were so similar.

I agree with this. That's why it was hard to fan cast him as an adult without going with Will Smith - but he looks older than 40s...the biggest reason is he is will smith lol it would be too distracting if Smith is cast

 

[The Shape]

I haven't read the novel, so maybe reading it would change my mind. But am I the only one who is not that interested in seeing the [BLACKOUT]Macroverse[/BLACKOUT] explored? I think it both sounds ridiculous, and I much prefer Pennywise as an enigma.

I'd say that aspect has to be included and explored to a certain extent, although I think they can find a way to work around the [blackout]turtle[/blackout] thing and possibly avoid it. Maybe use it symbolically and leave it open to interpretation, as opposed to literally and explicitly.

 

[Mad Ones]

Too many ****ing jokes, undercut the whole sense of horror. Disappointing.

I felt the same way. I got more and more frustrated after every bad joke.

I don't think it was that scary, well the first hour was. I still prefer the Conjuring movies and Annabelle 2. But good for Wb consistently making these good horror flicks! I usually skip this kind of movies but they definitely got my attention recently.

I don't know what to think for the sequel but I will watch it when it comes out.

I agree with all of this.

 

[David H.]

It's pretty good.

 

[Marvolo]

The book doesnt scare me. It's just creepy. This movie is creepy. I think a lot of people experienced IT as a child and/or have this phobia of clowns and it's given the book and the original miniseries an image that just doesn't really exist in either. IT isn't a balls to the wall piss your pants fear fest. It's a creepy book about these kids' transition from childhood to adolescence to adulthood and them learning to overcome their fears. It is in many ways a coming of age story. So I didn't go in expecting a nerve wrecking horror show. I expected what we got.

As for the humor of the kids, kids that age generally talk and act like those kids did. Especially a group of boys. Me and my group of friends did, at least. We talked **** to each other, made dick jokes, joked about each other's mothers etc. So I'm glad the film had them behave that way because it was realistic. I wouldn't want these kids acting dour and morose and without those personalities just to maintain a constant state of fear and oppression that bears down on the audience. That's not at all what IT is supposed to be.

 

[mclay18]

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION:

1. the previous month was the worst for the box office in over a decade.

I think IT would still have phenomenal numbers (still $100M+ opening), even if there was a four-quadrant August film this year like GOTG in 2014 and SS in 2016. You had the viewing numbers for the teaser trailer match or exceed those for several big blockbusters right off the bat. Then you have the book's popularity and the 1990 miniseries. That's Jurassic Park-esque levels of awareness.

IT finally proves, after several years of trial and error, that you can successfully open a blockbuster film any month of the year -- provided you have the right date, film, and marketing strategy.

- No one thought March would be a viable blockbuster until 300 and Alice in Wonderland rolled around. Then the Fast & Furious franchise made its permanent perch in April beginning on 2009, remained at 2011 and went back to April in 2015 and 2017.
- GOTG and Suicide Squad showed that August is a viable summer blockbuster month, even if kids go back to school midway through.
- January 2015 had a stunning nationwide expansion for American Sniper, which played like a summer blockbuster.... $89M 3-day/$107M 4-day, with a final total of $350M domestic.
- February 2016 saw Deadpool become Fox's highest opening film ever. Not as leggy as Sniper, but $330M+ is still great numbers for early in the year.

But the lynchpin is the myth that "no one wants to see blockbusters in the fall, because kids are in school!" Gravity and The Martian had leggy October blockbuster runs, but IT became the first $100M+ opening film for September. That is impressive, especially the week after Labor Day.

I see studios making notes. Not just mid-range horror films, or optioning more of King's work for features, but possibly blockbuster sequels that are blocked out of the prime spring, summer or holiday dates due to rivals booking the best ones years in advance.

 

[jmc]

The ridiculous thing is this whole notion of quiet months really has been nothing but a self imposed cycle that's had no basis in fact. The logic is nobody releases anything big in September because audiences just don't see movies in that month, yet no-one seems to have bothered to figure out part of that may be due to the studios not bothering to release anything big in the first place. Studios themselves have created the whole 'dump month' thing. The date has never been important for any blockbuster movie, if people are invested in the concept and it's advertised well audiences will see it.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I see studios making notes. Not just mid-range horror films, or optioning more of King's work for features, but possibly blockbuster sequels that are blocked out of the prime spring, summer or holiday dates due to rivals booking the best ones years in advance.

Specifically R-rated ones. Children going back to school is still a thing, even if it's not as bad a thing as its made out to be.

It had a lot of things going for it (book fans, miniseries fans, horror fans in general, a top-notch marketing campaign) But i'd say between this and Kingsmen 2, if studios learn anything this September, i predict the R-rated blockbusters in early fall might become a more prominent thing.

 

[Luigi]

Can't remember the last time that the local theater was this packed. There were huge lines everywhere and people were being turned away.

The film was a fantastic adaptation that thoroughly entertaining. Just wish that they would have included

Spoiler

Eddie's battery acid scene. There was even an opportunity for him to do it at the end when they were all attacking him.
Appreciated the Easter eggs such as the Eddie Corcoran missing poster.

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

I did! It was glorious, probably was my last opportunity to see it with a sold out venue of 250+ at arclight in hollywood. The crowd went through all of the emotions. I adore this movie.

 

[Stark Bauer]

I did! It was glorious, probably was my last opportunity to see it with a sold out venue of 250+ at arclight in hollywood. The crowd went through all of the emotions. I adore this movie.

This. IT has escapism in spades. So many times I go to a see a movie in a theatre and most of the time the movie magic has simply gone. There seems to be a drought in originality and creativity.

I'm talking the same magic that I felt seeing dinosaurs for the first time in Jurassic Park, seeing Neo dodge bullets, watching a Jaeger deliver a knockout punch to a Kaiju...movies that make you forget that what you are watching isn't real, but you become engrossed in it and become a child again.

I felt that Spielbergian feeling watching IT. It wasn't the scariest movie of all time but was one of the highest quality horror films I have ever watched, including the original Psycho, Halloween, and The Exorcist. IT IS a modern classic.

 

[TheFuture]

I really enjoyed it and thought Skarsgaard carved himself a place in his own right as Pennywise. Goofy and disarming when he had to be, while utterly sinister once the mask dropped. A terrifying performance. His intro and the slide scene were particularly horrific.

It helped that the little guy who played Georgie was so adorable. Hated the evil bastard from the get go for what he did to Georgie.

The young cast were excellent, with their group hug in the sewer towards the end having me tearing up. I'm surprised so many people had an issue with the kid pkaying Bill as I thought he was fine, particularly in the scenes mourning Georgie.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Saw it last night and ****ing loved it. Amazing look fantastic cast and a brilliant monster/monsters can not wait for the second. Amazing effects and the scares while didn't make me jump were beautifully shot

My friend summed it up we both loved it but didn't get scared but if you saw that one the same way we saw the original (about 8years old) you'd be ****ing scarred for life lol

One thing I did love was the ending

Spoiler

no mystical stuff just simply beat the living **** outta pennywise to win,just pure and simple pick up a bat and start swinging lol

If I had to be nit picky the only thing I wasn't keen on was how the "love triangle" ended with the girl going for the leader instead of the fat kid (forgot the names it's early here) but that's only because i think it was the other way in the book and against expectations

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

Empire City from Boxoffice Theory is saying 26,2 m Sunday. That would mean almost 123 m OW.

 

[BH/HHH]

Can't remember the last time that the local theater was this packed. There were huge lines everywhere and people were being turned away.

The film was a fantastic adaptation that thoroughly entertaining. Just wish that they would have included

Spoiler

Eddie's battery acid scene. There was even an opportunity for him to do it at the end when they were all attacking him.
Appreciated the Easter eggs such as the Eddie Corcoran missing poster.

Yeah I wanted the [blackout]battery acid[/blackout] scene was that in the book?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Empire City from Boxoffice Theory is saying 26,2 m Sunday. That would mean almost 123 m OW.

Wow, that's amazing. 26.2 million Sunday means a drop of 42.5% from Saturday. That drop is better than the lower region (45-50)% of the range I projected for the weekend after LD. This is very, very good. Shows no huge signs of front-loading so far. Had it not been for the Hurricane and the NFL games, the Sunday would have been much better. Bodes very well for the legs.

I think 'IT' is looking at a minimum of 2.45 multiplier. Those movies which opened to north of 100 million on OW and had a rather unremarkable multiplier are the Twilight movies (OW X 2.0). But these franchises were notorious for their fan-base front-loading which I don't think will be the case for 'IT'. From other recent movies (2010s) DH1, DH2, IM2, IM3, CW, F7, F8 and AoE also had multipliers in and around that (2.25-2.45) ballpark.

So with a 2.45 multiplier 'IT' will finish with [122.8x2.45]=300.9 million.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Saw it last night and ****ing loved it. Amazing look fantastic cast and a brilliant monster/monsters can not wait for the second. Amazing effects and the scares while didn't make me jump were beautifully shot

My friend summed it up we both loved it but didn't get scared but if you saw that one the same way we saw the original (about 8years old) you'd be ****ing scarred for life lol

One thing I did love was the ending

Spoiler

no mystical stuff just simply beat the living **** outta pennywise to win,just pure and simple pick up a bat and start swinging lol

If I had to be nit picky the only thing I wasn't keen on was how the "love triangle" ended with the girl going for the leader instead of the fat kid (forgot the names it's early here) but that's only because i think it was the other way in the book and against expectations

A lot of people forget this...
The movie is from a child's perspective. Everything is bigger and scarier as a child.
I think chapter 1 was meant for the child's perspective. I have a feeling chapter 2 will be one of the scariest films for adults.

 

[Stark Bauer]

IT may become a cultural phenomenon. It's a family/kids flick with supernatural and horror elements with the 80s nostalgia vibe.

 

[BH/HHH]

Did anyone else love how clear it was that [blackout]Pennywise was afraid of the kids at the end?[/blackout]