Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 3

[samsnee]

I would have liked more scenes of Pennywise talking but I didn't feel anything extra was really needed for the story.

And you can't really compare this to the miniseries. This is a movie production vs a tv budget.

Not sure how well the sequel will do though. This one kind of had a Stranger Things vibe to it and it's more fun to see kids getting scared. I don't think you'll get the same reaction when it's adult characters who should know better.

 

[harlequinade]

I would have liked more scenes of Pennywise talking but I didn't feel anything extra was really needed for the story.

And you can't really compare this to the miniseries. This is a movie production vs a tv budget.

Not sure how well the sequel will do though. This one kind of had a Stranger Things vibe to it and it's more fun to see kids getting scared. I don't think you'll get the same reaction when it's adult characters who should know better.

I think the sequel will do well, especially that they will definitely get well known actors now with what a success this movie is. Also those who saw it will want to know how the story ends

 

[Kane52630]

My review

Spoiler

This was incredible. Just like with a lot of great horror films, this was built on great character development and the story. While some kids in the Losers club aren't as fleshed out as the others, they all have something going for them. You want to root for them and you enjoy their comradery between each other. It's also great to see the metaphor being more established about the real "monsters" in their lives. And I do like the take on telling just the kid stuff first and save the sequel for when they become adults. The effects were obviously way better than the original miniseries, although I wish some of the effects were done practically like with the red balloons. As for Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise, I really enjoyed his performance which was helped by the effects. Maybe it's just me, but I wish he had more time to deliver some dialogue like in the beginning of the movie (which was excellent). Overall, it's one of the best remakes* (sequel pending) for a horror film and just for a film in general. This should be the model of how to make a horror film that's meant for almost everyone.

9.5/10

 

[Blitzkrieg]

They keep interfering with what the directors are doing and messing up the films to small or big extent. And they make horrific decisions there.

I can give you Skwad (total incompetence from start to finish) and BvS (smooth production but bad decisions during post production) from their recent slate of movies. Can you give me other examples??

Filmmakers like Eastwood, Nolan, Wan, Yates, Affleck are given huge budgets and the first two have an unlimited clout at WB. No other major studio is as conducive to film maker driven creativity as WB. There will always be examples of other directors from studios (Ridley Scott at FOX, Jon Favreau at Disney among others) but WB are still the studio that does employ a more director friendly approach.

I'm still mesmerized by what George Miller manged to do in spite of the studio.

WB took a huge gamble with Mad Max Fury Road. The production budget was 180 million. No other big studio will finance MMPR (I don't think Mad Max franchise was ever that big in domestic BO, it's a cult classic but not a proven IP in terms of BO returns) with that kind of budget. It only happened because GM was allowed that budget by WB.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

In any case filming of extra scenes would mean newly built sets, CGI etc which would unnecessarily inflate the budget. I doubt Muschietti was planning small production value scenes so the budget would increase considerably. Why would WB spend extra money on surplus scenes that will not make the movie significantly better (I'm merely speculating, for all I know the scenes could have made the movie better)?? The biggest Stephen King adaptations before 'IT' was The Mist and some other movie and they didn't even cross 75 million at that time. King's adaptations have never been huge moneymakers so it doesn't make much sense to increase the prod. budget without proper insight. WB got the best possible results in the end with the talents they employed.

 

[Arachnerd]

So I see Doug Walker (Nostalgia Critic) didn't like it.

Are you really surprised? He and his brother already had a biased preconception with their dislike of the miniseries and the book, so it's no wonder that they wouldn't like this one as well.

 

[Lily Adler]

Yeah I was actually unaware they didn't like the book until they said it in the review. I never watched his miniseries review either.

 

[Arachnerd]

That and, they think Bill Skarsgård's contortionest movements in the film were CGI, so that's another f-up they'll probably never address.

 

[harlequinade]

I can give you Skwad (total incompetence from start to finish) and BvS (smooth production but bad decisions during post production) from their recent slate of movies. Can you give me other examples??

Filmmakers like Eastwood, Nolan, Wan, Yates, Affleck are given huge budgets and the first two have an unlimited clout at WB. No other major studio is as conducive to film maker driven creativity as WB. There will always be examples of other directors from studios (Ridley Scott at FOX, Jon Favreau at Disney among others) but WB are still the studio that does employ a more director friendly approach.



WB took a huge gamble with Mad Max Fury Road. The production budget was 180 million. No other big studio will finance MMPR (I don't think Mad Max franchise was ever that big in domestic BO, it's a cult classic but not a proven IP in terms of BO returns) with that kind of budget. It only happened because GM was allowed that budget by WB.

The level of stupidity in how they are handling DCEU is enough for me to think of them as a laughing stock. It's a huge property, lucky for them they are very successful with the horror film. I'm not talking about them handling specific directors but their decision making process when it comes to most of the things in DCEU is truly embarrassing. The directors you mentioned are mostly good and Eastwood notoriously delivers movies that end up being made faster and cheaper than the studio expected. And Affleck ain't getting big budget any time soon.

 

[danoyse]

Folks, keep the DCEU talk to the DC forums.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

The level of stupidity in how they are handling DCEU is enough for me to think of them as a laughing stock.

But then you are cherry-picking. WB's movie slate don't revolve around the DCEU. They produce and distribute plenty of movies every year and the DCEU movies in 2016 accounts for just 8.7% of their entire movie slate in 2016. What was bad about the other 91.3%??

Even then this point makes no sense because Wonder Woman happened and WB didn't interfere with that movie at all or at least that's what seems true on paper and Mrs Jenkins corroborated that on multiple occasions. They stopped second guessing with WW and did what they do best, trust the director to deliver and they produced one of the biggest CBMs ever.

Do you think Universal totally fumbling and failing with the Dark Universe actually tarnishes their excellent work with Blumhouse horrors and their movies with Black actors?? Do you think Lucasfilms's inability to avoid bad press due to directorial trouble on most of their movies somehow makes Disney a laughing stock??

It's a huge property, lucky for them they are very successful with the horror film.

I don't think WB are lucky. They are just brilliant when it comes to horror movies.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Folks, keep the DCEU talk to the DC forums.

I'm sorry. I was already writing my last post when you posted this. I'll refrain from talking about the DCEU.

 

[MurkeNyou]

$51 Million for Thursday Night/ Friday Domestic, $25 million Foreign. Pennywise is a moneymaker! Possible $100 million weekend domestically.

 

[moviedoors]

Are you really surprised? He and his brother already had a biased preconception with their dislike of the miniseries and the book, so it's no wonder that they wouldn't like this one as well.

I don't really love the book or the miniseries myself, but this was a damn good movie. My favorite version of it by miles.

 

[mclay18]

$51 Million for Thursday Night/ Friday Domestic, $25 million Foreign. Pennywise is a moneymaker! Possible $100 million weekend domestically.

$100M is guaranteed. The big question is whether it will hit $110M-$120M depending on the Saturday and Sunday holds.

 

[The Chris]

Are you really surprised? He and his brother already had a biased preconception with their dislike of the miniseries and the book, so it's no wonder that they wouldn't like this one as well.

I've watched his review of the miniseries a couple of times and it really feels like he doesn't like Stephen King work at all as well.

 

[writer0327]

All I gotta say is it was worth the hype. Great performances by the kids, great scary scenes, and the ending was pretty much like a old haunted house ride! The kid from Stranger Things killed it, probably my favorite performance in the film, right next to Skarsgard.

 

[writer0327]

$100M is guaranteed. The big question is whether it will hit $110M-$120M depending on the Saturday and Sunday holds.

My guess is $120M or it will get right up to it. The lackluster BO from August is helping this IMO. I know a few folks that were itching to see something, anything....been starved for a good film to check out for the last month, and this seems to fit the bill.

Horror is really making a strong surge this year. Some great horror films have dropped in 2017.

 

[harlequinade]

Was the Nun trailer attached to it? Can anyone describe it if it was?

 

[DeGenerate10]

Was the Nun trailer attached to it? Can anyone describe it if it was?

Didn't have it with my showing.

 

[Rjones1325]

So.....I'm doing a little giveaway for the movie.*

If you want this freaky lil Pennywise shirt, you can come float down to enter here:*http://www.rendyreviews.com/giveaways//it-t-shirt-and-pins-prize-giveaway

 

[Blitzkrieg]

$100M is guaranteed. The big question is whether it will hit $110M-$120M depending on the Saturday and Sunday holds.

Saturday will be huge. There are plenty of sellouts all across USA. I think Canada will not be far behind with the WoM catching up with them.

Saturday will also see some uptick due to the Sunday being deflated in Florida and it's associated areas due to Irma. Those who want to see it will hafta catch matinee shows on Saturday or go at night where theaters are still open. So the Saturday will definitely increase from the true Friday.

Nao Sunday is complicated because of category (4-5) Hurricane that will hit Florida hard. But horror movies comes under the index in Florida so the effect is not going to be that huge. The NFL games will take a chunk out of the business on Sunday for sure because last year all the movies (new openers and holdovers) in this weekend (weekend after LD) dropped between (45-50)%.

So the equation for the weekend looks something like

Pre-Views - 13.5 million + True Friday - 37.5 million ; OD - 51 million
Saturday - (39.4 - 41.25) million [(+5/+10)%]
Sunday - (19.7 - 20.6) million [-50%]

Domestic OW - [51+39.4+19.7] = 110.1 million to [51+41.25+20.6] = 112.85 million.

I think this is a reasonable range. When comparing to another 'R' rated juggernaut, Deadpool had Valentines Day and President's Day to thank for when it came to that ridiculous OW. While 'IT' has to compete with Hurricane Irma and NFL plus the front-loading due to the Horror genre and Stephen King fanbase. So that 110 million OW sounds about right IMO. Could still go down but it's a gigantic OW and one of the greatest success stories when it comes to BO.

 

[Boom]

I don't know if it's because I was tired, but I actually didn't care for this all that much. I'll see it a second time when I'm in a fresher state of mind, but I didn't find it particularly scary. Jump scares don't cut it.

 

[Eddie Dean]

There's no atmosphere in the movie. Even the miniseries had a bigger sense of dread in it. That's something Fukunaga really would have brought to it.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

The trailer that'll attract attention is the 2nd 'The Disaster Artist' trailer. Apparently it's good too.