Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 4

[GothamAlleys]

The Georgie scene was scary for me because of the knowledge of what will happen to him and that its inevitable, and the scene really builds the tension very high and the creepy and great great score played during it elevates it to the next level, as does the cinematography

But again, I cant think of any movie that would be scary to me aside from The Others

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Aren't the doing some sort of King universe tv show?

Yes they are. Castle Rock on Hulu

https://www.hulu.com/castle-rock

 

[scarlet-witch]

I saw this yesterday and loved it!

I only had a few complaints - I don't like the change to the 80's. Aside from the fact that it's going to make chapter 2 very strange, there was nothing in the film itself that justified it. It's like they just did it so they could use better music choices for the soundtrack. They should've kept it in the 50's.

I'm not sure what all the reviews talking about jump scares were getting at. Most of those weren't jump scares, they were essentially just camera tricks because you knew something was about to happen. There was maybe one or two I'd classify as an actual jump scare.

 

[P Supreme]

They way I see it, the jump scares and Pennywise are there for the kids and teens; they are fun for adults, too. The real horror for adults, though, is the peripheral and more insidious evils: racism, toxic masculinity, bullying, child sexual abuse, Munchausen by proxy, and the kind of apathetic indifference that leads adults to turn a blind eye to those forms of evil and suffering. If you weren't horrified by the leper, for example, you were sickened by Eddie's mother making her son believe he was ill. If a headless victim of the Ironworks tragedy wasn't scary, the blurry grinning woman in the background did the trick. Blood in the sink? No match for Beverly's perverted father. Burned hands in a doorway and zombie children not scary enough? The lady talking to the kids on television is acting weird and isn't that pharmacist a bit too friendly with little girls? Henry's dad, the cop, is scary. Adults bully kids who become bullies themselves. That's the fertilizer It needs to grow children with fears It can eat with relish. That's the stuff of nightmares.

well said I had a similar situation to Jack when I was at his age my mom would not let me play with the kids in my neighborhood [I grew up in South Bronx] so she wanted to shield me but ofcourse it was troublesome for me at school but I had to stop them from messing with me so I made friends eventually but had to hide it from her it by the time I had enough I had to let her know I was more miserable being in the house then I was with the "bad influences" so the parts with the kids especially Jack resonated with me I even had tears when he found out about the medication [I never read books and haven't seen the 90's series since then]

Pennywise was just a cherry on top I loved the coming of age aspect of the movie the actors they get to do the adult aspect of the movie have their work cut out for them

and Amy Adams needs to play Bev I mean they look so much alike

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

https://***********/GiteshPandya/status/907605458013364226

Stellar $8.8M MON for #ITMovie pushing huge cume to $132.2M surpassing latest #Transformers sequel in just 4 days. Shd break $150M by THU.

 

[Finarfiniel]

I'm sure with the success of this movie, studios will be dusting off their King properties from development hell.

I am crossing my fingers for The Stand. I'd like to see Josh Boone get a chance to direct it.

All I want is a good and faithful (as it can be, that is) adaption of The Dark Tower series, in a trilogy or a GoT style mini-series. I'm re-reading the series now and I'm on The Wastelands. Man, imagine a live action version of Blaine the Mono, an insane artificial intelligence stuck inside a pink monorail train. How King writes a character like that and actually makes it scary is why he's the best.

 

[mclay18]

https://***********/GiteshPandya/status/907605458013364226

That number is the highest Monday ever recorded for September and in genuine summer blockbuster territory. It's on par with the first Monday for several Pixar titles, the first TF film, and the final HP film.

For today, I expect it to inch up to $9M, or stay flat.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Man, I didn't follow the box office for The Last Knight. I had no idea it did so poorly.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

LMAO at this thread

https://***********/mattsinger/status/907284204496605186

 

[Filmfan93]

Got our tickets for Thursday!

Never seen the original nor read the book, so I am going completely blind.

Hope I won't be disappointed!

 

[Blitzkrieg]

For today, I expect it to inch up to $9M, or stay flat.

I think 'IT' should have a good increase on Tuesday. Sunday's hold was abnormally good. I never thought about a less than 40% drop against Irma & NFL games but somehow IT managed -37%. That meant the Monday drop will be slightly on the higher side. But the Discount Tuesday effect coupled with Florida business getting back up after Irma and no big NFL games for the day should make for a good Tuesday. I think a (20-30)% increase from Monday is likely. I'm expecting something between the (10.5-11.5) million range.

 

[BatSpider]

Thoughts on how well it could possibly do next weekend? Seeing it again for sure

 

[GothamAlleys]

Got our tickets for Thursday!

Never seen the original nor read the book, so I am going completely blind.

Hope I won't be disappointed!

The movie is almost completely unlike both the miniseries or the book anyway, Ive read the book multiple times (finished it today again) and it was so completely unlike the it aside from three scenes or so that I had no idea whats gonna happen next whatsoever, which was really fun

 

[Greens]

They way I see it, the jump scares and Pennywise are there for the kids and teens; they are fun for adults, too. The real horror for adults, though, is the peripheral and more insidious evils: racism, toxic masculinity, bullying, child sexual abuse, Munchausen by proxy, and the kind of apathetic indifference that leads adults to turn a blind eye to those forms of evil and suffering. If you weren't horrified by the leper, for example, you were sickened by Eddie's mother making her son believe he was ill. If a headless victim of the Ironworks tragedy wasn't scary, the blurry grinning woman in the background did the trick. Blood in the sink? No match for Beverly's perverted father. Burned hands in a doorway and zombie children not scary enough? The lady talking to the kids on television is acting weird and isn't that pharmacist a bit too friendly with little girls? Henry's dad, the cop, is scary. Adults bully kids who become bullies themselves. That's the fertilizer It needs to grow children with fears It can eat with relish. That's the stuff of nightmares.

I didn't think those adult aspects were scary at all, so it left me with a pretty dull, okay movie. Maybe I'm desensitized, but I don't really buy into that because a movie like The Conjuring 2 managed to keep me on my toes and entertain the hell out of me. Yeah, Bev's dad was a mean guy, but it just didn't leave an impression. The film needed a different touch, more oomph.

 

[The Guard]

What the hell does "actual horror movie" even mean?

When did we start narrowly defining what a horror movie is and can be, and for that matter, what any film is and can be?

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Spoiler

I'll take him, I'll take all of you, and I'll feast on your flesh as I feed on your fear, or you can leave us be and I'll take him, only him and you will all live to grow old and thrive and live happy lives, until old age takes you back to the weeds?

I loved that part. gave me goosebumps.

 

[misslane38]

I didn't think those adult aspects were scary at all, so it left me with a pretty dull, okay movie. Maybe I'm desensitized, but I don't really buy into that because a movie like The Conjuring 2 managed to keep me on my toes and entertain the hell out of me. Yeah, Bev's dad was a mean guy, but it just didn't leave an impression. The film needed a different touch, more oomph.

I'm not talking about "horror" scares, though. I'm talking about the kind of scary that eats into your subconscious and is the fuel for your nightmares. The myriad ways in which adults feed on children is genuinely frightening, but not jump out of your seat frightening. It's a trapped, sick to your stomach, and powerless fear. It's the kind of fear generated when the people you think love you are the people from whom you need protection. It's psychological terror. The stuff that digs its teeth into you as a child and holds onto long enough for it to devour you as an adult, as it will each of the Losers.

Bev's dad is terrifying. Fortunately, as a young girl, I was never abused or molested, but it's actually not that uncommon. When I was Beverly's age, older men and boys used to make lewd comments about me and pay attention to me in ways that scared me and made me uncomfortable. Every woman I know experienced things like that growing up and many still do in the form of sexual harassment. That's an everyday fear, so Mr. Marsh isn't scary because he's a big old meanie. He's scary because every girl and woman knows what it's like on some level. It's scary.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Stages of growing up:
1) Afraid of Freddy Krueger movies
2) Laugh at Freddy Krueger movies
3) Feel nostalgic about Freddy Krueger movies
4) Agree with Freddy Krueger

Jokes aside, adult stuff of It was far more creepy than Pennywise and other manifestations in the film. Of all monster films, I think, only The Exorcist and The Thing still make me feel uneasy. After certain age real life scares take over and only monsterless horrors or thrillers, if done well, can frighten you.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Thoughts on how well it could possibly do next weekend? Seeing it again for sure

For comps I'm using Sully and Maze Runner. Both of these movies are September openers. While Sully opened on the same weekend in 2016 and Maze Runner opened a week later 2014 in terms of calendar configuration.

Sully and Maze Runner dropped 38.2% & 46.5% respectively. But 'IT' is an R rated Horror movie so there will be more inherent front-loading. So a drop of less than 50% becomes difficult. Not impossible to achieve a sub-50% drop but tough considering the genre, rating and the fact that this was an adaptation of a Stephen King novel which bring more fan-driven front-loading.

OTOH, Deadpool & Logan are 2 comps as both are R rated wide movies that opened outside of Summer with schools in full swing. They dropped 57.4% & 56.9% respectively on their sophomore weekends. Deadpool's hold is especially amazing considering it's OW was heavily aided by the Valentine's Day. So a 2nd weekend drop around 55% for 'IT' is very likely and that gives us 55.6 million next weekend.

But the OW was deflated due to Hurricane Irma and NFL games. It took sizable chunks out of the OW. So the next weekend should have softer drop w.r.t the OW. So a weekend drop around (52-53)% wouldn't surprise me. That'll also mean the 2nd weekend will be somewhere around 58 million. This is my optimistic scenario tho. In any case a 2nd weekend of 53 million+ is nearly guaranteed after the gigantic OW. Think about this for a moment, 'IT's 2nd weekend will be bigger than the biggest horror OW before last weekend happened. Let that sink in.

 

[BH/HHH]

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3...sidered-pennywise-taking-form-freddy-krueger/

That would have been awesome and totally fit with the film. Telling you Muschietti should be the one to bring Krueger back after the IT sequel. IT had a huge Nightmare on Elm Street vibe.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

 

[JtheDreamer]

I'm not talking about "horror" scares, though. I'm talking about the kind of scary that eats into your subconscious and is the fuel for your nightmares. The myriad ways in which adults feed on children is genuinely frightening, but not jump out of your seat frightening. It's a trapped, sick to your stomach, and powerless fear. It's the kind of fear generated when the people you think love you are the people from whom you need protection. It's psychological terror. The stuff that digs its teeth into you as a child and holds onto long enough for it to devour you as an adult, as it will each of the Losers.

Bev's dad is terrifying. Fortunately, as a young girl, I was never abused or molested, but it's actually not that uncommon. When I was Beverly's age, older men and boys used to make lewd comments about me and pay attention to me in ways that scared me and made me uncomfortable. Every woman I know experienced things like that growing up and many still do in the form of sexual harassment. That's an everyday fear, so Mr. Marsh isn't scary because he's a big old meanie. He's scary because every girl and woman knows what it's like on some level. It's scary.

This movie most definitely didn't eat into my subconscious or fuel my nightmares. Part of the problem is it's tonal changes as it lept back and forth between trying to be a horror movie and a coming-of-age nostalgia piece. I suspect that is due to production changes with the director and screenplay.

Bev's dad was the closest thing to what you described and I found him significantly creepier than Pennywise. But Eddie's mom was a joke. We spent absolutely no time with her and introduced so late in the film. She was a caricature not an actual menacing character. That was the case for most of the parents we saw.

That's my problem though - the city and the adults within it are supposed to be fueling this killer clown and yet it was basically given lip service. I guess that's fine for some people if they simply just spell it out for them in the movie as a throwaway line. I thought the movie would've played better with less goofy Pennywise cat-and-mouse chases and more town building. By the time we got to the end battle Pennywise was watered down to me.

 

[JtheDreamer]

But yea it didn't seem like an actual horror movie. It was more like a R rated Goonies lol.

Yes.

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/09/12/collins-crypt-how-can-anyone-think-it-isnt-a-horror-movie

Great write up.

 

[Marvolo]

Yes.

Which is perfectly fine considering the source material.