Stuff you like to believe happened in Nolan's series

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  1. JDonaldD

    JDonaldD Well-Known Member

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    I know in the context of the film, we are told if Dent messes up everyone will come after him and it's all on him but I'm not sure if legally that makes sense. They wouldn't just let the criminal go if the guy who arrested them becomes a murderer. TDKR doesn't spend any time explaining what really happened after Dent died. Who prosecuted the criminals? Did his death inspire more noble politicians? I know it's a super hero movie, so it's not a huge issue.

    And about corruption, Gordon agreed to cover up Dent's crimes - that's corruption. That's not his job. He never seemed happy about it, it was Batman's choice. It takes it's toll on Gordon as we see the truth is eating him away and his wife leaving him is more proof that he didn't get away scott free.
     
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  2. BlueLightning

    BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz

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    Well, concerning Dent, he was who put in jail all of those criminals with the RICO case. After that, the mayor tells him that everything will be onto him, everyone whose interests would be put in peril would try to find a way to bring Harvey to the ground. Basically, because of the singularity of his deeds, if anyone gets anything onto him, all of the criminals would set loose.

    And as for Gordon, isn't allowing a vigilante to roam the city rooftops a little dubious too? But as you say, it takes a toll on Gordon and on Batman too. The point of the action is that they don't get away without consequences. They put their souls on the line to protect the city. As I said before it's a sacrifice, and that's perhaps more than heroic.
     
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  3. DACrowe

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    Logically, you are right about it being a bit of expository dialogue. But making a big deal out of the dropped line for multiple posts is the logical result of watching this movie likely many, many times and scrutinizing over very trivial things.
     
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  4. DACrowe

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    We as audience members see Dent as a character and, hopefully, a human being. To Gotham, he is a symbol and, more importantly, a politician. How do people usually react when they discover their political leaders are hypocrites? And that's when it's a sex scandal. If it came out that the "Hope and Change" of Gotham became a crazed killer, his legacy would be ruined and all the good he and Batman brought to the city would be undone as the press would crucify the man and the mob's lawyers would have everything he ever did thrown out of court.

    It is believable that they'd want to cover up his failings. However, one could argue pinning the crimes on the Joker would be easy.
     
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  5. Anno_Domini

    Anno_Domini Well-Known Member

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    So logically, I shouldn't continue ranting on about something I always found to be an awful line, because logically, I can tell someone doesn't like me talking about it.
     
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  6. RustyCage

    RustyCage Come what may..

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    "Trivial" doesn't exist. Any big picture is made out of it's little details.
     
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  7. DACrowe

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    It was not an attack, sorry if you took it personally. It is just a throwaway line that I agree is either due to clunky exposition or a deleted scene. Either way, I just am surprised it can fuel a page worth of conversation.
     
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  8. Human Torch

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    I like to think Bane survived the blast.I mean,he could've been wearing some kind of kevlar vest,and we're talking about a guy that can punch holes in a cement pillar.I'm sure he got some broken ribs or something,but I think he could've survived.
     
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  9. shauner111

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    LMAO!! Broken ribs? He took a cannon through his chest. It blows away several cars like it's nobodys business.
     
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  10. DACrowe

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    It blew gaping holes into multiple cars in one blast. Kevlar (which he didn't have on) and muscles cannot stop that. He be gone.
     
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  11. Anno_Domini

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    I would like to think of this happening after the events of TDKR...

    with Gordon still being Commissioner, there is a plan to take Gordon out of the GCPD as a whole so a new Mayor, Hamilton Hill, takes office(with help from a rising new mob boss, Rupert Thorne) and brings in Harvey Bullock to be a new detective in Gordon's Major Crimes Unit to sabotage Gordon's career.

    Ever since Batman Begins, I wanted to see Hill, Bullock and Thorne being used in a similar manner.

    No, didn't take it personally. I can see why a page or two would be too much on just a little nitpick of mine. I didn't foresee it to have happened, lol.

    :lmao:

    You think a missile would just break some ribs when someone's wearing a kevlar vest?

    And also...your idea of him being able to punch holes through pillars has nothing to do with durability of surviving a missile cannon, lol.
     
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  12. Human Torch

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    So Bane's knuckles are the only part of him that's indestructible.Got it.:o

    I gotta admit though,you guys have a point.In a film where a knee brace worn once cures a knee without cartilage,
    A broken back is cured by an old dude hitting it and hanging him on a rope for a few weeks,
    Batman doesn't bleed to death from a 5 inch knife wound,
    and escapes an A bomb's blast radius with 5 seconds to spare-

    having Bane survive a small explosion is insane!:wow:
     
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  13. pr0xyt0xin

    pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant

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    qft
     
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  14. Anno_Domini

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    Going into "berserker" mode, why would Bane stop even if he broke a few knuckles? There's no timeouts in a fight, lol.

    We have no idea if it's only worn once. If Bane did indeed have his brace taken off, then I go in the metaphorical idea of climbing out of the Pit made Bruce anew. And either way...Bruce still didn't do anything with his bad leg, even kicking Bane through the City Hall doors with the other leg.

    His back wasn't fully broken as it is in Knightfall. Old Eastern medicine isn't all too bewildering to think it could have worked if he had a protruding vertebrae.

    Neither was a gunshot, because he's gone through that before. Recall Joker stabbing Batman in the penthouse?

    Because his cape being able to glide and a possible ejection wouldn't do the trick of having him escape?

    Small explosions? The Bat-pod's missiles were also able to take out a Tumbler. Could small explosions do that?
     
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  15. Victarion

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    I just figured the pillar punch was a wink to the comic version of the Venom. I doubt even that would shield you against a canon lol.

    Talia had her knife in far longer than Joker. Plus Bane kicked him in that spot when he tried to kill Batman.
     
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  16. kvz5

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    Are we seriously debating on whether a human being like Bane survived a direct hit of a canon blast that completely wrecked a friggin Tumbler made out of tons of heavy metal?
     
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  17. hammerhedd11

    hammerhedd11 OHaiMark

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    Ability to break things = impervious to missiles.

    I am a god.
     
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  18. hammerhedd11

    hammerhedd11 OHaiMark

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    You forget that he punched a pillar.

    WITH HIS HANDS!
     
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  19. Tequilla

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    Even if those situations didnt have an explanation (and they have) , Bane surviving that would be completely insane , even by comparison.
     
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  20. Anno_Domini

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    True, but it was still a knife that didn't phase Batman at all once he got stabbed just like the Talia reveal scene.

    And thinking about it again, Joker stabbed him a second time as well, didn't he? During the final fight.

    Sadly, yah :csad:
     
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  21. BlueLightning

    BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz

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    "All the old familiar places" :hoboj:
     
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  22. Anno_Domini

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    :up:

    Did Joker say that because he stabbed Batman in the same spot?
     
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  23. BlueLightning

    BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz

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    I believe so. In the fundraiser, he stabbed him in the ribs with the shoe-knife. Then he does the same thing with the regular-knife.
     
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  24. Anno_Domini

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    Hahaha, five years after the film and I still learned something!
     
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  25. Human Torch

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    Just for the record,lets look at the original post:
    So,yeah,Given the concept of this thread,I'd like to believe all the stuff the OP has written in bold.:woot:
     
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