I imagine Joker would die laughing, seeing who it was that killed him.
Going back to this, I think that would be just so hilarious...Foley shoots him as Joker turns his head to see
who shot him and starts laughing his ass off while he falls to his death
so you think if ledger had lived and they did use the joker in rises they would have killed bruce wayne?
No, no, I don't see Batman dying because Joker is in TDKR. I just think, if you were to bring in Joker in the film we have, to keep under that 165 minutes, I'd replace Blake and have all of his time towards Joker so no passing of the mantle and the only symbol that's moved on is just the hope that Batman gave Gotham.
If Ledger had lived then The Dark Knight Rises would not be the same movie we got. They would have written it so Joker fit right into it in some capacity.
Well, yes, of course. I definitely believe this, but in the sense that we do get Joker in the film that it is, that was just my idea of how Joker could fit in the film that was released the way it is.
Idk, I really like having TDK as The Joker's one movie to shine in the trilogy. Makes him stand out more. I can't think of a way to incorporate him into TDKR in a way that doesn't cheapen him without heavily altering the plot, and I love the story told in TDKR. When I think Heath-Joker I just think TDK, that's right where he belongs. Kind of makes my brain implode thinking about it too much. If Heath lived I'd obviously be clamoring for his return along with the rest of fandom, but my only sadness about Heath's death is for his friends and family. I never missed The Joker in TDKR.
Agree as well. I'm totally fine with Joker being in TDK and I'm fine that he's not even mentioned in TDKR(as I mentioned, since Batman was viewed as a villain, there's no way it would be known that Batman stopped Joker, so no use of Blake mentioning that, or anywhere else in the film where Joker needed to be mentioned).
As for what I like to believe...mainly that there was a short period where Batman was active in total stealth mode post-TDK before the Dent Act was passed, and keeping an eye on things via the Bat-computer for a while. Also that Blake evolves the symbol and becomes more of a Nightwing-type figure rather than another Batman so Gotham understands for sure that it's someone new taking up Batman's duties.
I am certainly a fan of both of these ideas
Blake maturing into his own symbol as well as the ongoing discussion that Batman did stay around post-TDK before the Dent Act was initiated.