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Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - Part 19

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What?? Don't you like Gotham? It's the best thing on TV atm imo.

I did enjoy season 1, and thought it was fun. I don't hold it in the same regard as Arrow or Flash at their best though, and even though I did enjoy it, I always felt I was in the minority as there were lots of others complaining about it (not that it bothers me if I am in the minority or anything, but it certainly makes it more difficult to call something great at times if there are lots of others complaining about it). I have seen the start of season 2, and again I did enjoy it, but I have a good bit of catching up to do with it.

From what I have seen, I do not think the show has come close to the level that it should be at, when you take into account what it is based on and the characters they are using. I know they cant use Batman or a lot of his villains in their prime, but I still feel that with better people in charge, the show could be much more. Perhaps when I catch up with it (and I will), I will change my mind.
 
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Perhaps when I catch up with it (and I will), I will change my mind.

I think you will. Season 2 keeps upping itself. Young Bruce has been quite a bit of pre-Batman stuff, and Ep 19 (the upcoming one), a pre-Jean-Paul-Valley Azrael appears in his full costumed glory.
 
I think you will. Season 2 keeps upping itself. Young Bruce has been quite a bit of pre-Batman stuff, and Ep 19 (the upcoming one), a pre-Jean-Paul-Valley Azrael appears in his full costumed glory.

That sounds interesting and fun, thanks for telling me about this. Out of interest, has there been any mention of the Court of Owls? There were lots of rumours of them turning up this season and I think one of the shows higher-ups said they would be turning up. I love the Court of Owls and them being used in live-action is exciting to me.
 
That sounds interesting and fun, thanks for telling me about this. Out of interest, has there been any mention of the Court of Owls? There were lots of rumours of them turning up this season and I think one of the shows higher-ups said they would be turning up. I love the Court of Owls and them being used in live-action is exciting to me.

They haven't used the exact term, but there's certainly some kind of elite secret society going on behind the scenes that's yet to be uncovered. And it links in heavily with the corruption going on in Wayne Enterprises.
 
Gotham is a steaming pile of ****, IMO. Wasted potential.
 
I think you will. Season 2 keeps upping itself. Young Bruce has been quite a bit of pre-Batman stuff, and Ep 19 (the upcoming one), a pre-Jean-Paul-Valley Azrael appears in his full costumed glory.

yeah overall season 2 is so much better than season 1.
 
Here's a trailer for the next episode.

 
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Will Smith talks Deadshot in Suicide Squad!

Will Smith talks Suicide Squad, working with David Ayer and what made him take the Deadshot role As Warner Bros. Pictures continues to expand its big screen DC Comics universe, fans are anxiously awaiting the arrival of David Ayer‘s Suicide Squad this August. Among the stars signing on for the supervillain ensemble is Will Smith as Deadshot.
Deadshot, who debuted in the comics as a Batman villain more than 65 years ago, is making his first cinematic appearance in the ensemble. That, Smith tells ComingSoon.net, is precisely what drew him to the Deadshot character.

“It’s a character that hasn’t really been explored in cinema,” Smith explains. “I get to design it and be a part of creating the first round of Deadshot in the history of cinema… It’s a really great opportunity to work with a really great ensemble. It was perfectly cast. It’s an insane group of super actor villains.”

Deadshot isn’t Will Smith’s first comic book movie, however. The Men in Black franchise was itself based on a relatively obscure comic book series published by Aircel starting in 1980. While not based on a comic itself, Hancock nevertheless offered Smith as an original cinematic superhero. Despite having a history with comic book films, however, Smith says he grew up somewhat distanced from comics.

“As a child, my brother was really into it,” he explains. “I was sort of banned from his comic books. It was sort of sacred land. But probably in the last three or four years, I started getting into it. I started paying attention a bit more. It was a little bit of a benefit coming from the outside and getting exposed to it because I got to do a deep dive over a six or seven month period, taking them all in and reading them back to back. It felt like it gave me a little more freedom to create in my mind rather than being trapped in your childhood images.”

After Suicide Squad, Smith has plans to immediately reteam with Ayer for Bright, an End of Watch-style thriller set in a contemporary world of orcs and magic wands. “It’s David Ayer’s tonal quality,” says Smith of what he gets from the creative partnership. “It’s how he thinks and how he moves and how he sees the world.” It’s also Ayer that Smith trusts to find a way to balance Suicide Squad against the rapidly expanding big screen DCU.

“These kinds of movies are a different breed,” he says. “The huge, gigantic tentpoles that are designed to be global behemoths. I wanted to do something like that with David Ayer, who is a director that cares only about character. Every single aspect and detail of the character playing into that gigantic box for me is what makes this one really special

Suicide Squad also stars Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Jared Leto as the Joker, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flagg, Jai Courtney as Captain Boomerang, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El DIablo, Adam Beach as Slipknot and Viola Davis as Amanda Waller. There’s also mystery roles for Ike Barinholtz, Scott Eastwood, Raymond Olubowale, Alex Meraz, Jim Parrack, and Common. Are you looking forward to Will Smith’s take on Deadshot? Let us know in the comments below

Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/681297-deadshot-will-smith-suicide-squad#IlQCB7ogg78pQJBo.99
 
gotham is pretty terrible. Fish Mooney was such an awful character that it completely ruined any potential season 1 had. Now they are just forcing every batman villain to show up before bruce even hits puberty.
 
I stopped watching Gotham after the Season 2 premiere. I just can't take the show seriously.
 
Who says you were suppose to take it seriously? that show has more levity and goofiness than BvS.
 
On one episode a criminal stuffs some explosives in his jacket and one scene later there is a shootout and when Gordon shoots him the guy blows up like a cartoon character. I don't think you're supposed to take it seriously.
 
and that is why Gotham is a good show
It may not have Batman or Nightwing but it does have the appropriate balance of camp and darkness without doing either tone a disservice
 
Gotham is a steaming pile of ****, IMO. Wasted potential.

Gotham should've been like true detective. It should've been a dark, noir-esque crime story. With none of batmans fantastical villains. It should've been set in the years that bruce wayne was gone and training so no bruce wayne and alfred taking uo screen time. Penguin could still exist. But no riddler. All the crime bosses including rupert thorne. Should've been realistic and trilling. Would've been a GREAT hbo/showtime/encore type show. Or even a Hulu original.
 
I didn't care for season 1 of Gotham, but I do think the show has been a lot better this season, season 1 it seemed like they didn't really have a clear idea of what they wanted to do with the show.
 
Gotham should've been like true detective. It should've been a dark, noir-esque crime story.

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The more serious moments are what appealed to me during Season 1. Especially scenes of young Bruce. David Mazouz consistently put in excellent performances.
 
I didn't care for season 1 of Gotham, but I do think the show has been a lot better this season, season 1 it seemed like they didn't really have a clear idea of what they wanted to do with the show.

They still don't, IMO.
 
Can you guys take the whining about Gotham to the Gotham board please. Thanks :)
 
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