Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - Part 28

[redfirebird2008]

Thats just insane. there are cable TV shows that give their writers more time than that for a couple of episodes. To write such a big budget movie with this many characters, with this much action in 6 weeks is patently ridiculous.

Even more ridiculous to have the final cut of the film edited by a trailer company. lmao

 

[Zur-en-Arrh]

i just wanted to see batman and green lantern on the silver screen together, and i feel like the odds of that happening are shrinking by the minute.

 

[Boom]

If WW is yet another fail then I guess WB need to get out of the way and let the new directors do their thing for the rest of the DCEU. They especially better not mess with Affleck's solo Bat film

Couple more stinkers and Affleck may say "**** it" and back out.

 

[Midnite]

Report: Warner Bros. Turned Suicide Squad Into a Mess in Its Panic Over BvS Criticism

A source with knowledge of events says Warners executives, nervous from the start, grew more anxious after they were blindsided and deeply rattled by the tepid response to BvS. “Kevin [Tsujihara, Warner Bros. CEO] was really pissed about damage to the brand,” says one executive close to the studio. A key concern for Warners executives was that Suicide Squad didn’t deliver on the fun, edgy tone promised in the strong teaser trailer for the film. So while Ayer pursued his original vision, Warners set about working on a different cut, with an assist from Trailer Park, the company that had made the teaser.

If there's any truth behind this, the execs need to stop interfering. SMH

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Nothing new. An executive wants something different and asks the director to do so. He's not entirely happy with the idea so they meet in the middle. That's how movies have been and always will be made. But because these aren't critical darlings, out of nowhere these articles emerge about problems in the studio. Making it sound like it's a living hell in there.

Meanwhile, over at Disney Land, everything's perfect. All sunshine and rainbows. No one ever mentions about problems there, no one ever mentions the marketing budget.

The problem is not with the movie, it's with you. Get it through your heads - just because you don't like a movie, that does not mean it's poorly made!

 

[Sleiek]

I don't doubt that the OW will be great, but the quality for the fans will be seen in weekend No.2 - will they see it again, what will they tell their friends, coworkers, acquaintances, family members. Word of mouth.

In the end, General Audience don't go in and look at narrative structure and editing issues. They just want to have fun and so far from what I reading, the movie provides that. I am expecting the WOM to be good.

 

[tanita_mors]

So, whose cut did we get - the Ayer one or the Trailer one ???

 

[Filmfan93]

Nothing new. An executive wants something different and asks the director to do so. He's not entirely happy with the idea so they meet in the middle. That's how movies have been and always will be made. But because these aren't critical darlings, out of nowhere these articles emerge about problems in the studio. Making it sound like it's a living hell in there.

Meanwhile, over at Disney Land, everything's perfect. All sunshine and rainbows. No one ever mentions about problems there, no one ever mentions the marketing budget.

The problem is not with the movie, it's with you. Get it through your heads - just because you don't like a movie, that does not mean it's poorly made!

This!

 

[TX85]

Nincompoops

 

[Lucellit]

Report: Warner Bros. Turned Suicide Squad Into a Mess in Its Panic Over BvS Criticism



If there's any truth behind this, the execs need to stop interfering. SMH

People posted the THR link back then and we have pages of reactions.
Gizmodo?
Oh boy. It spread around quick.

 

[JC00]

How about we see the movie first before we let other people tell us how we should feel guys?

Actually the few people I trust have said this movie is ***** and that's all I need to know.

Now I don't have to waste 3 hours and $$ going to a movie I won't like. Even though the money isn't a problem it's the time, I don't like it having it wasted.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Just read the THR article. **** sake. Maybe Ayer really was out of his element here, but it sounds like the real culprits are WB, if that report is true (and I think it is). Amazing though that they apparently panicked and ****ed with Ayer's film instead of doing what they SHOULD have done after BvS and fired Zack ****ing Snyder.

 

[WitchTrialz]

Nothing new. An executive wants something different and asks the director to do so. He's not entirely happy with the idea so they meet in the middle. That's how movies have been and always will be made. But because these aren't critical darlings, out of nowhere these articles emerge about problems in the studio. Making it sound like it's a living hell in there.

Meanwhile, over at Disney Land, everything's perfect. All sunshine and rainbows. No one ever mentions about problems there, no one ever mentions the marketing budget.

The problem is not with the movie, it's with you. Get it through your heads - just because you don't like a movie, that does not mean it's poorly made!

My sentiments exactly. What happened to having fun at the movies? Not every comic film needs to be a Kubrick masterpiece.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Nothing new. An executive wants something different and asks the director to do so. He's not entirely happy with the idea so they meet in the middle. That's how movies have been and always will be made. But because these aren't critical darlings, out of nowhere these articles emerge about problems in the studio. Making it sound like it's a living hell in there.

Meanwhile, over at Disney Land, everything's perfect. All sunshine and rainbows. No one ever mentions about problems there, no one ever mentions the marketing budget.

The problem is not with the movie, it's with you. Get it through your heads - just because you don't like a movie, that does not mean it's poorly made!

Yup. This sort of stuff happens quite frequently I would imagine. Only a handful of directors will be able to make their movie completely without any interference.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Actually the few people I trust have said this movie is ***** and that's all I need to know.

Now I don't have to waste 3 hours and $$ going to a movie I won't like. Even though the money isn't a problem it's the time, I don't like it having it wasted.

now you have no right to bash the film if you never see it

 

[BatSpider]

Reactionary culture has seeped into CBM film

 

[JC00]

i just read that david ayer wrote SS script in 6 weeks lol

no wonder the writing is being bashed

Ya. That is pretty bad. "Script needs to be done by this date" is a terrible way to write a movie.

 

[Spider-X]

In the end, General Audience don't go in and look at narrative structure and editing issues. They just want to have fun and so far from what I reading, the movie provides that. I am expecting the WOM to be good.

Sad to say...you might want to read more reactions and temper those expectations

When the majority of critical feedback about a film is negative and a professional critic says something like this about it...usually that's an indication of serious issues:

"If you know someone you really can't stand - not someone you dislike, not someone who rubs you the wrong way, but someone you really loathe and detest - send that person a ticket for "Suicide Squad." - Mick LaSalle

I've been feeling really bummed for DC fans lately...WB's needs to figure their ***** out because these characters deserve a lot better than they're getting.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Nothing new. An executive wants something different and asks the director to do so. He's not entirely happy with the idea so they meet in the middle. That's how movies have been and always will be made. But because these aren't critical darlings, out of nowhere these articles emerge about problems in the studio. Making it sound like it's a living hell in there.

Give Marvel props, outside of Ant-man they get there stuff together cause they have focus and still manage to create something quality.

Disney gets crapped on all the time with John Carter, Tron Legacy, and Tomorrowland have embarrassed productions.

 

[NotNickFury]

Reactionary culture has seeped into CBM film

I'd say more so with DC fans in particular because, unless I'm mistaken, you don't exactly see fans of Marvel Studios getting up in arms if their films aren't well received critically. Granted, they've yet to make a movie that was a flop or critical failure- even if I don't like Thor: the Dark World- but as far as I can tell, Marvel folks seem to keep it together a tad more than DC.

In the world of movies, anyway. We can't forget the hoopla over Cap going 'Hail Hydra' or Peter Parker making a deal with the devil during Civil War.

 

[Broseph44]

So, whose cut did we get - the Ayer one or the Trailer one ???

It sounds like it was ******** when they said the Ayer cut won.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Nothing new. An executive wants something different and asks the director to do so. He's not entirely happy with the idea so they meet in the middle. That's how movies have been and always will be made. But because these aren't critical darlings, out of nowhere these articles emerge about problems in the studio. Making it sound like it's a living hell in there.

Meanwhile, over at Disney Land, everything's perfect. All sunshine and rainbows. No one ever mentions about problems there, no one ever mentions the marketing budget.

The problem is not with the movie, it's with you. Get it through your heads - just because you don't like a movie, that does not mean it's poorly made!

Yes... the DCEU's poor movies are not poor because they are poorly made. Critics who view hundreds if not thousands of movies per year and give plenty of them that aren't in any way related to Marvel positive reviews haven't liked the DCEU's output, but that absolutely can't be due to the films being flawed. Nope, it's all our fault.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Reactionary culture has seeped into CBM film

More like nerd insecurities has seeped into CBM.

You think Burton gave a crap about what the "fans wanted" as a defense of Returns?

 

[TX85]

Now I don't feel like watching the film anytime soon or at least not in theaters, I'll probably just rent it when it goes digital but will eventually see with it with my own eyes at least.

 

[Kingdork]

Nothing new. An executive wants something different and asks the director to do so. He's not entirely happy with the idea so they meet in the middle. That's how movies have been and always will be made. But because these aren't critical darlings, out of nowhere these articles emerge about problems in the studio. Making it sound like it's a living hell in there.

Meanwhile, over at Disney Land, everything's perfect. All sunshine and rainbows. No one ever mentions about problems there, no one ever mentions the marketing budget.

The problem is not with the movie, it's with you. Get it through your heads - just because you don't like a movie, that does not mean it's poorly made!

In this particular case with Suicide Squad, it is because the final product we got to see REEKS of studio interference. It is poorly made, it is poorly put together as a whole cohesive narrative and overall film. It is BLATANT.

While not being great IMO, a movie like Ant-Man who also went through big behind-the-scene turmoils, still ended up being a coherent and honest movie where you didn't see all production troubles bursting at the seams. That's not the case with Suicide Squad unfortunately.