Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - Part 28

[Tv's Phil]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...secret-drama-rushed-916693?utm_source=twitter

Very telling. Lines up with how little respect I have for studio intrusion.

 

[STARMAN]

In general, these movies have too big of budget and set the bar too high in terms of revenue.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

How many people have actually seen the movie for themselves yet, without just judging the RT score?

None of the noise makers.

 

[bapi]

i'm sure will smith, jared leto, viola davis and margot robbie aint's exactly cheep.

Participations on Man of Steel were another 58 millions (not included in budgets).

 

[Lucellit]

So can we hope for a ultimate edition or a joker edition with all the cut scenes?

I want my Damaged Cut, WB!


Now that WB meddling seems to be real, I wonder about Ayer's original script.
The one that Tom Hardy notoriously praised as "Effing alley!"

Some member mentioned Trank. Poor guy.
After his Twitter rant, his career coldly stale.
Maybe Snyder and Ayer in their silence didn't want to be in similar position.


So far I'm pretty convinced that I'll like SS though.
It has things that I usually like.
But I can't help but pay more attention to editing and pacing after heard so much about it beforehand.
Same situation with BvS TC that I ended up liked.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Let's just hope they keep they're mits off Wonder Woman

 

[jmc]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...secret-drama-rushed-916693?utm_source=twitter

And everyone cheered when WB had a 'plan'. What a ****ing mess.

 

[Symbiotic]

I know that realistically it can't happen, because you have to have dates claimed a.s.a.p., but I almost wish there was a way to not start filming on further DCEU films until after JL's release and reception. Just to be cautious.

 

[jmc]

In general, these movies have too big of budget and set the bar too high in terms of revenue.

$800m just to break even for Suicide Squad. It boggles the mind this film needs that much just break even. Bloody hell.

 

[DeadStroke]

Biggest takeaway. I always worried about the script and if he was doing this on the fly.

"[Ayer] wrote the script in like, six weeks, and they just went," he says, arguing that the whole process would have benefited if Ayer, 48, had been given more time to work. But another source closely involved with the film says once it was dated, pushing back the release was not an option:

The fact the cast were signing on when there was no script or clue should have been the first sign.

 

[Lencho01]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...secret-drama-rushed-916693?utm_source=twitter

*Slowly laughs like Leto's Joker while staring in the mirror*

 

[Astro13Zombie]

None of the noise makers.

 

[Boom]

You'd think that the appeal of Suicide Squad to a studio executive is that it wouldn't require the budget that a lot of these superhero films have nowadays.

$175 million for a movie like this is... puzzling.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

Why did they think they'll get 800mill? GotG which had like the perfect storm earned 773!

 

[MadVillainy]

If that THR article is true, then f***

And others are right, they should've tried to make this for cheap. I know certain stars are expensive (are filmmakers salaries part of the reported budgets?) but a Suicide Squad movie doesn't need huge city battles or something like what I'm seeing glimpses of in the marketing

They would've been better off making a cheaper, less extravagant movie from what it seems

 

[Smilodon]

I hope Wan, Momoa, Famuyiwa, and Ezra are gonna play hardball like Affleck if WB tries pushing them ahead if they're not ready. Momoa and Ezra esp. need to be like Hugh or Ryan where they're also calling the shots on their projects.

 

[jmc]

You'd think that the appeal of Suicide Squad to a studio executive is that it wouldn't require the budget that a lot of these superhero films have nowadays.

$175 million for a movie like this is... puzzling.

You can't tell me you can't make successful movies cheaply. Deadpool made almost as much money as BvS with a fifth of the budget. There's no way this film gets to $800m.

 

[MadVillainy]

Studios, not just WB, need to learn budget control. It's ridiculous

 

[king666]

I hope Wan, Momoa, Famuyiwa, and Ezra are gonna play hardball like Affleck if WB tries pushing them ahead if they're not ready. Momoa and Ezra esp. need to be like Hugh or Ryan where they're also calling the shots on their projects.

You probably won't hear from Wan until Justice League is released.

 

[MadVillainy]

I hope Wan, Momoa, Famuyiwa, and Ezra are gonna play hardball like Affleck if WB tries pushing them ahead if they're not ready. Momoa and Ezra esp. need to be like Hugh or Ryan where they're also calling the shots on their projects.

None of them except for Wan have the clout to play hardball. They'd be laughed out of the room

 

[FunkMiller]

I hope Wan, Momoa, Famuyiwa, and Ezra are gonna play hardball like Affleck if WB tries pushing them ahead if they're not ready. Momoa and Ezra esp. need to be like Hugh or Ryan where they're also calling the shots on their projects.

Momoa and Ezra have not nearly enough power to demand anything like that. They'll do what they're contracts tell them to do.

 

[jmc]

Studios, not just WB, need to learn budget control. It's ridiculous

Indeed it is. It's getting to the stage where films will never be profitable.

 

[chamber-music]

Speaking DC properties only, how many failed films came under his watch? I'm asking sincerely. Green Lantern, Superman Returns, The Losers, Jonah Hex, the whole situation with Justice League Mortal?

I don't know about Horn's involvement in those movies.

It was long rumored that the upper management of WB at the time Horn was there was pretty dysfunctional though. It has been mentioned in the trades and by various industry insiders. As I said before there was a power struggle going on between the execs which lead to Horn being ousted. Very dog eat dog mentality when it comes to executive leadership which effected the quality of some of their movies.

The story on Green Lantern I saw is this

The upper management at WB is insane....there are so many ridiculous stories I've heard about that place,I honestly dont know why someone hasnt written a book. My favorite DC/Marvel WB story to tell is the one about how Green Lantern got green lit. It was RIGHT after one of the top WB guys saw Iron Man(and the money it made opening weekend)and he called a meeting to see if they could develop something similar. He was CONVINCED that the reason it made so much money was because of the Air Force/Fighter Jet scenes-in his words it was "Like a cross between BATMAN and TOP GUN". He BADLY wanted SOMEONE to come up with a superhero comic-book movie involving fighter jets. They banded ideas around...Batman has a jet,right? What if we made a movie where Batman was an Air-Force guy and he dropped out of the Air Force to develop the Bat-Jet? What if Superman grew up and joined the Air Force? Just...complete, terrible ideas like that. Finally someone brought up the fact that Green Lantern WAS a comic-book character,who WAS in the Air Force,and he WAS already owned by WB-boom. Instant Green Light. The exec who started all this literally cared absolutely nothing about Green Lantern as long as it had lots of fighter jets in it. All through development,with all of the casting and director issues and budget reports...all he cared about were the plane scenes. That was gonna make or break that movie. Its probably no coincidence that a sequel to TOP GUN has been in development for some time now....

 

[Lencho01]

I hope Wan, Momoa, Famuyiwa, and Ezra are gonna play hardball like Affleck if WB tries pushing them ahead if they're not ready. Momoa and Ezra esp. need to be like Hugh or Ryan where they're also calling the shots on their projects.

None of those guys are in a position to do something like that. If any, it would be Wan.

 

[Smilodon]

None of them except for Wan have the clout to play hardball. They'd be laughed out of the room

Unfortunately true. Let's hope Wan can pull off Aquaman and Rick isn't thrown into a pressure cooker of a film production.