Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[gdw]

It's a good song, that's why they used it. Should we say they're stealing from Wayne's World because they used Bohemian Rhapsody?

Dude, context. Yeah, it's a good song, but it's an insanely stupid move to use it while already blatantly aping GotG in the first place.

IF they used Bohemian Rhapsody, while ALSO attempting to force the rest of the film to copy Wayne's World, then, yeah, we'd be saying that too.

 

[Greens]

I doubt too many people exclusively associate Spirit in the Sky with GotG. If they'd used Hooked on a Feeling.. sure.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

Cool drawing

 

[gdw]

I doubt too many people exclusively associate Spirit in the Sky with GotG. If they'd used Hooked on a Feeling.. sure.

Yeah, they would associate it MORE. Doesn't matter though, the point stands for using ANY of the songs from GotG.

They literally used one of the same songs from the film they were so DESPERATELY trying to ape. It's just pathetic.

Now, had they NOT been trying obviously to force SS to be DC's GotG, then using Spirit in the Sky would be a complete non issue.

It was just a bad move, and one I'm flabbergasted was allowed to slip by, if it wasn't intentional, which would just be even more sad.

 

[Greens]

I liked that part of Waller arriving at the restaurant. Sympathy for the Devil (a little on the nose but who cares), the title card, the guy selling Superman and Batman shirts.

 

[Slushy]

House Of The Rising Sun is played in like every movie, lol.

 

[Guts]

It seems Tumblr has taken a liking to the movie.

 

[Greens]

Yeah, they would associate it MORE. Doesn't matter though, the point stands for using ANY of the songs from GotG.

They literally used one of the same songs from the film they were so DESPERATELY trying to ape. It's just pathetic.

Now, had they NOT been trying obviously to force SS to be DC's GotG, then using Spirit in the Sky would be a complete non issue.

It was just a bad move, and one I'm flabbergasted was allowed to slip by, if it wasn't intentional, which would just be even more sad.

You're the first person I've encountered that cares about this particular move, so it couldn't have been that bad of a choice. Look, just because Guardians used a couple of songs doesn't mean they have a monopoly on them. Spirit in the Sky is an insanely popular song. It's used at sporting events, in video games, in TV shows, in movies.

That's not even taking into account that Spirit in the Sky wasn't even in the GotG movie! It was used for a trailer.

 

[Guts]

House Of The Rising Sun is played in like every movie, lol.

I liked that it was used to introduce Belle Reve.

 

[Greens]

House Of The Rising Sun is played in like every movie, lol.

That goes for Fortunate Son as well. Timeless tracks.

 

[WitchTrialz]

My point was that it was already obvious they were trying to copy GotG, on top of that, to then go and use one of the exact same songs, that's either really stupid, really lazy, or really sad. It's just shows either a complete lack of integrity, or a complete lack of competency.

It's just adding insult to injury at that point, is what I'm saying. Or perhaps more appropriately, adding idiocy to stupidity.

That's a bit harsh.

Suicide Squad is not the first movie to feature classic rock songs in its soundtrack and it won't be the last.

Now if you're trying to draw comparisons between The fact that both movies feature bands of misfits teaming up to stop a threat that's also a very unfair judgement.

The Suicide Squad first appeared in DC comics in 1959, Gaurdians came along in 1969, even still the stories only share very vague similarities. One team is a band of scifi characters that fight for good because they know they have to. The other is a group of hardened criminals that are forced against thier will to be heroes.

Barely any similarity, and you can same the same for the movies. Ones set in space with a soundtrack headlining 70s classics. Suicide Squad on the other hand mostly headlines rap, trap, and hip hop music, with only a few classic rock songs from various eras here and there.

Stylistically the movies also couldn't be further apart but I've already typed too much so I'll leave it there

 

[Guts]

Just replace New Orleans with Louisana swamp and you've got Belle Reve.

There is a house in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God, I know I'm one

My mother was a tailor
She sewed my new blue jeans
My father was a gamblin' man
Down in New Orleans

Now the only thing a gambler needs
Is a suitcase and trunk
And the only time he's satisfied
Is when he's on a drunk

Oh mother, tell your children
Not to do what I have done
Spend your lives in sin and misery
In the House of the Rising Sun

Well, I got one foot on the platform
The other foot on the train
I'm goin' back to New Orleans
To wear that ball and chain

Well, there is a house in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God, I know I'm on

 

[gdw]

I'm not the only one. It's be mentioned in reviews.

You guys are also repeatedly attempting to reduce what I'm saying to something else.

In NO way have I said that GotG has a monopoly on the songs it used, NOR am I saying there should be an embargo on other films using them.

I'm saying, if a studio tries to force one of their films to try and capitalize on/parrot Wayne's World, using Bohemian Rhapsody would be on the nose, and the exact opposite of creative, or original. It's derivative. It's hack.

It's not that the song doesn't work, or wasn't the right song for that moment; it's that the moment the studio said "this needs to be our GotG," they should have stayed away from using any of the actual same songs.
Had some ignorant exec NOT been pushing that agenda after the fact, then it wouldn't have mattered in the slightest.

The moment people started making GotG comparisons (which was VERY early in the marketing campaign,) they should have kept far away from using any of the same songs. Even using the same artists would have, ultimately, been decried as derivative.

 

[KillerWolf]

I liked that it was used to introduce Belle Reve.

Yeah, it was a bit too on-the-nose as any of these songs was, but I liked its use as well.

 

[writer0327]

Bohemian Rhapsody is a song about suicide. I thought it was appropriate.

 

[WitchTrialz]

I'm not the only one. It's be mentioned in reviews.

You guys are also repeatedly attempting to reduce what I'm saying to something else.

In NO way have I said that GotG has a monopoly on the songs it used, NOR am I saying there should be an embargo on other films using them.

I'm saying, if a studio tries to force one of their films to try and capitalize on/parrot Wayne's World, using Bohemian Rhapsody would be on the nose, and the exact opposite of creative, or original. It's derivative. It's hack.

It's not that the song doesn't work, or wasn't the right song for that moment; it's that the moment the studio said "this needs to be our GotG," they should have stayed away from using any of the actual same songs.
Had some ignorant exec NOT been pushing that agenda after the fact, then it wouldn't have mattered in the slightest.

The moment people started making GotG comparisons (which was VERY early in the marketing campaign,) they should have kept far away from using any of the same songs. Even using the same artists would have, ultimately, been decried as derivative.

I think you're getting worked up over a VERY minor issue here.

The truth is that "Spirit in the Sky" is the ONLY song used in both movies, and it's only there for a few seconds.

Did you know this song has been used in 50 movies (not including suicide squad)?

It's a VERY popular song that people know and love and if I'm being honest I don't think the producers of this movie were even thinking of Gaurdians when they added this track, hell I wasn't thinking of Gaurdians when I watched it. I totally forgot the song was in Gaurdians.
They were thinking of Rick Flagg and the squad flying through the air in a helicopter, it just works. It's not meant to undermine Gaurdians, that's just a pretty silly leap in logic. I don't care if you or the reviewers (who I don't trust in the first place) tell me otherwise, it's silly.


Now if you want to talk about problems the movie had we can talk about REAL problems, but this isn't one of them

 

[kguillou]

I have the SS novel coming in tomorrow. In actually excited to read it. I feel like i'll be reading the "director's cut."

 

[tanita_mors]

actually, you can hear price's joker and harley theme together with gangsta. the start of the scene is price, then the beginning of gangsta then the climax of joker&harley with violins and then gangsta again. they actually mixed his score and music quite a lot.

 

[tanita_mors]

i saw the movie again. it was just as good as before, still a 7/10, but that ending battle, the slow-mo, ... so so bad.
i still think they can get away with a more abusive relationship between joker and harley in future films. just make all the flashbacks from her perspective as they have that weird pink tint - a romanticized perspective.

 

[brandeezy89]

Just got home, i give it a 7.5/8 out of 10. The beginning felt rushed but mellowed out during the bar scene which i thought was the best part in the movie imo and I might be in the minority but i enjoyed the 3rd act, in did it's job. This movie had more of a PG-13 Deadpool feel than a GOTG based off the CG which was mediocre and some corny jokes. I'm going to see it again with my cousin this time since he hasn't seen it but read some reviews. Oh Cara as June is a very bad actress, i think everyone had a good to great performance besides her as June, i think she was fake crying in one scene, It was cringey. I actually like Leto's Joker, he felt off the wall and unpredictable in the short time we saw him. Problem was them editing the scenes so close together without us being able to take it in

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I have the SS novel coming in tomorrow. In actually excited to read it. I feel like i'll be reading the "director's cut."

I hear it's much better than the actual movie itself so I'm sure you'll have a great time reading it.

 

[Nightshift]

I had an issue with the fact that the "You don't own me" song was played during HQ's introduction, and then minutes later she wears a jacket that's got "Property of Mr. J" printed on it. Yeah, I know it's Nitpicking, but still.

 

[WitchTrialz]

I had an issue with the fact that the "You don't own me" song was played during HQ introduction, and then minutes later she wears a jacket that's got "Property of Mr. J" printed on it. Yeah, I know it's Nitpicking, but still.

But why is that a problem? It's funny and ironic, but is that really a problem? She's insane after all, I imagine she goes through spells of wanting to be owned and not wanting to

 

[tanita_mors]

their entire relationship is based on the love/hate dichotomy. both are extreme emotions. as they say "it's a think line between love and hate"

 

[Nightshift]

But why is that a problem? It's funny and ironic, but is that really a problem? She's insane after all, I imagine she goes through spells of wanting to be owned and not wanting to

I get the irony, but since the film felt so rushed without any proper breathing room, and not only that it kinda seems like they tried to convey the idea that HQ is crazier and wild then the Joker, which is just not the case.