The Dark Knight Tdk Needs More Iconic Images Than Bb Had

[raybia]

BB wasn't bad in this respect but TDK needs to go out of way to include as many as possible. One example is my avvy.

What images would you like to see?

 

[raybia]

 

[Rockbottom]

I know what you mean, like at the end of 89 on top of the Bell tower with the Bat Signal. BB has the Joker card which was like "wow" but i agree with you.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

Wasn't bad?

They had a LOT of iconic images in BB.

- perched on the building overlooking Gotham
- descending down the staircase of Arkham
- crouched on the corner of a building
- rising into the background behind Crane and his thugs in the apartment
- interrogating Flass
- talking to Gordon at the end

Virtually every scene with Batman had some sort of iconic image mixed in.

How many more do you want??????????????

 

[raybia]

Wasn't bad?

They had a LOT of iconic images in BB.

- perched on the building overlooking Gotham
- descending down the staircase of Arkham
- crouched on the corner of a building
- rising into the background behind Crane and his thugs in the apartment
- interrogating Flass
- talking to Gordon at the end

Virtually every scene with Batman had some sort of iconic image mixed in.

How many more do you want??????????????

Double

Oh and this...

 

[Rockbottom]

Your forgeting "WERE ARE YOU!" .... Here. Thats one of the best parts of the movie.

 

[raybia]

It was good although I would have prefered that scene to be more dimly lit and Batman coming out of the shadows.

 

[raybia]

 

[Eddie Dean]

 

[Rockbottom]

 

[raybia]

This scene is a must.

 

[Rynan]

When I see someone do that in real life, then we'll talk.

 

[Crooklyn]

- perched on the building overlooking Gotham

Nolan did a good job on this one.

- descending down the staircase of Arkham

Nice concept, but entirely too short. Blink and you'd have missed it.

- crouched on the corner of a building

Something about this was off to me, but eh, I'll give it to ya.

- rising into the background behind Crane and his thugs in the apartment

A cool shot at best. Not iconic.

- interrogating Flass
- talking to Gordon at the end

....and these aren't even remotely iconic images. They're memorable scenes, there's a difference.

Virtually every scene with Batman had some sort of iconic image mixed in.

I'm beginning to wonder if you even know what iconic images are.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

Nice concept, but entirely too short. Blink and you'd have missed it.

The staircase descent was an 8 second shot (I timed it). That is one long ass blink you must have if you miss that! Must have a lazy eye or something to consider that shot "cut short."

....and these aren't even remotely iconic images. They're memorable scenes, there's a difference.

So you say. But, I like how you interpret your opinion to mean they're only memorable and not iconic shots.

I'm beginning to wonder if you even know what iconic images are.

Based on your ridiculous rebuttal, which is grounded in your personal opinion of what is and isn't iconic, I'm thinking the same thing about you.

 

[Kebab gud]

wow .. you all forgot the most iconic image relating to batman that WAS in the movie...
Lille bruce in the Alley with his dead parants.. i whould have preferd an overhead shot but still...

 

[Crooklyn]

The staircase descent was an 8 second shot (I timed it). That is one long ass blink you must have if you miss that! Must have a lazy eye or something to consider that shot "cut short."

Except I was talking about the actual shot of the camera looking up at Batman. THAT was the iconic shot, not the whole damn sequence. Are you gonna really stretch your argument

So you say. But, I like how you interpret your opinion to mean they're only memorable and not iconic shots.

I do what I can.

Based on your ridiculous rebuttal, which is grounded in your personal opinion of what is and isn't iconic, I'm thinking the same thing about you.

Nice to see you still ignored why you listed scenes of dialog as iconic imagery.

 

[Shedhut]

Double

Oh and this...

well ,the first one has been in Begins basically and the second one looks ridiculous imo. but I agree that in a way it was a little too less glory in the movie.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

 

[raybia]

wow .. you all forgot the most iconic image relating to batman that WAS in the movie...
Lille bruce in the Alley with his dead parants.. i whould have preferd an overhead shot but still...

One of the best.

 

[Crooklyn]

Wow. Great shot.

 

[Jack Napier]

I think TDK needs a really good musical score to amplify the images and make them iconic. Batman '89 had that going for it in every way, and I feel that the score in BB was mediocre. Some of the musical cues in BB were interesting, but this is Batman, for God's sake! The score for BB could have been synched to numerous other action movies today, but when you hear Elfman's score you KNOW it's a Batman score.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

Except I was talking about the actual shot of the camera looking up at Batman. THAT was the iconic shot, not the whole damn sequence. Are you gonna really stretch your argument

Ah, but you see that's why its a real time motion picture. It would look kind of silly to have Batman defy the force of gravity for the sake of prolonging one shot (watch B89's descent shot in the museum and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about). In any event, the iconic shot was captured which you admit to anyway.

Nice to see you still ignored why you listed scenes of dialog as iconic imagery.

I didn't ignore them at all. The iconic shots are incorporated into the dialogue scenes I mentioned. They are drawn right from the graphic novels. You're simply trying to find an argument where there is none. Are you really that bored?

 

[raybia]

I think TDK needs a really good musical score to amplify the images and make them iconic. Batman '89 had that going for it in every way, and I feel that the score in BB was mediocre. Some of the musical cues in BB were interesting, but this is Batman, for God's sake! The score for BB could have been synched to numerous other action movies today, but when you hear Elfman's score you KNOW it's a Batman score.

The score for Batman Begins is not the usual super-hero score. There is not a brassy bold fanfare like the original Batman movie or a main theme filled with wonder like Superman or Spider-Man. It is in many ways an atypical score. The score that they produce is dark, action packed and quietly poignant.

This was purposely done. Zimmer said that Batman had not earned his "theme" yet and that a bold memorable theme has been created and will be introduced in TDK.

 

[Crooklyn]

The score for Batman Begins is not the usual super-hero score. There is not a brassy bold fanfare like the original Batman movie or a main theme filled with wonder like Superman or Spider-Man. It is in many ways an atypical score. The score that they produce is dark, action packed and quietly poignant.

This was purposely done. Zimmer said that Batman had not earned his "theme" yet and that a bold memorable theme has been created and will be introduced in TDK.

Interesting, never heard that before. So that means we'll be hearing a completely new theme then, huh?

 

[Swordmaster]

Interesting, never heard that before. So that means we'll be hearing a completely new theme then, huh?

In the score to the first film, the main "Batman" theme only shows up towards the end, kind of like a springboard for the second film...
Absolutely, that's the whole idea. It's Batman Begins! There's a whole theme that's written and on purpose not in the movie. We were basically betting that this movie might work out alright and there would be another one, so we wanted the character to develop. He hasn't earned that theme yet! [Play "Batman Begins: Molossus"]

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