The Dark Knight Rises TDKR Reviews/Reactions (SPOILERS/Read At Your Own Risk) (NO DISCUSSION!)

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I freaking loved it! They had me believe that Tate was NOT Talia for a moment there. Cool stuff.
But I laugh a little that for a movie that tries sooo hard to be a "real movie" toning down the comic book side of things - It had a lot of emotional cheese to it. Some scenes felt a bit like rami's Spidey.
Also some scenes were ripped from BB and TDK. "The moral ambiguity" - when it all falls we are naught but animals concept from the boot scene was repeated in the Football stadium. "One of you has the trigger".

I can also see people make funny youtube videos of the scene with the gunner shooting at Batman before his first fight with Bane.

Next time you watch it try hearing: "You mess with Spidey you mess with all of us" at key points, it's kind of funny :woot:

Still I loved it.
Here's hoping that the next series of movies are more Comic booky while still being "badass" and free of drawn out cheese monologs.
 
I freaking loved it! They had me believe that Tate was NOT Talia for a moment there. Cool stuff.
But I laugh a little that for a movie that tries sooo hard to be a "real movie" toning down the comic book side of things - It had a lot of emotional cheese to it. Some scenes felt a bit like rami's Spidey.
Also some scenes were ripped from BB and TDK. "The moral ambiguity" - when it all falls we are naught but animals concept from the boot scene was repeated in the Football stadium. "One of you has the trigger".

I can also see people make funny youtube videos of the scene with the gunner shooting at Batman before his first fight with Bane.

Next time you watch it try hearing: "You mess with Spidey you mess with all of us" at key points, it's kind of funny :woot:

Still I loved it.
Here's hoping that the next series of movies are more Comic booky while still being "badass" and free of drawn out cheese monologs.

C'mon, the civilian trigger angle was STUPID, no villian in their right mind is going to place the trigger on an unsuspecting victim. If I were Batman or the commish I would ignore this and they did ignore this.
 
I kinda 'hate to ut it tis way, as I don't want to sound like I thought it was crap...I didn't.


But I felt like a good deal of the magic wore off by this third movie.
 
I loved it.

I was utterly satisfied with that ending on all levels and that really hit the nail on the head for me.
 
Thinking about the film again today, and I still love it. A perfect trilogy.
 
I thought the movie was average. It had a pedestrian feel where it never truly rose to the occasion. The film had an epic look to it at times but the character moments didn't meet the look of the movie at all. I'm not sure what was up with the audio mix but it seemed like several scenes had actors mumbling their lines where I couldn't hear what they were saying. At first I thought it was my theater but after reading reviews of others I'm thinking it was the film itself.

I had trouble with the film from the get go when I found out part of Bruce's motivation to give up Batman was because of Rachel. They never had anything going lol. These characters barely showed any kind of connection or chemistry whatsoever in the first two films so it wasn't convincing at all that he would give up Batman because of her. And that lack of chemistry continues with Selina Kyle and Miranda Tate. There's nothing convincing about Bruce's relationship with either of these women. It's poorly written and rushed.

Which brings me to the pacing and editing of the film. It's similar to TDK where it's jumping all over the place and not exercising any patience whatsoever so there's never a sense of coherence in the storytelling. It feels disjointed with all of these new characters being introduced and barely having any time spent on them. They never feel like true flesh and blood characters, just plot devices to spout exposition.

With that being said the performances were good for what the actors/actresses were given (which wasn't much). I don't feel like any of the characters had an arc or grew any except Selina Kyle. I thought Tom Hardy despite being hampered with the mask and that voice (he was hard to understand at times) did a great job making Bane a menacing villain. He's no Joker but he wasn't as bland as I thought he'd be. He had my favorite moment in the film taunting Batman as he's kicking his ass in the first fight.

The action was hit and miss. Batman's unretirement certainly could have been handled better. It should have felt like a big moment but...it doesn't. He rides his batpod and gets chased by a bunch of cops annnnnnd that's about it. It makes the "Boy you're in for a show" line feel kind of empty. Also, watching Batman and Catwoman fight together looked ridiculous to me. I really couldn't take her seriously as someone who could kick ass. There was no weight behind her punches and kicks. She seemed to give love taps to guys and they'd be down for the count...not very convincing at all.

The fight scenes were slightly improved though. The first Batman/Bane fight was the best out of all three movies and I was surprised it wasn't ruined by the typical crap editing. Unfortunately the 2nd fight wasn't as good and I felt the whole street brawl was ripped straight from the final fight scene of Enter the Dragon...so much that ETD's soundtrack came into my head when Batman and Bane faced off the 2nd time and I laughed a bit. The Bat was a cool vehicle. For some reason it looked far better in the daytime scenes at the end of the movie than it did in the night scenes when it was first introduced. I got a thrill (one of the few) seeing it fly around the city.

I can't really think of much else that's worth mentioning. When it was all said and done I felt nothing for any of these characters including Bruce Wayne. I wasn't happy for him, wasn't sad for him. I didn't care anything about Gotham either since it was such a faceless city. And that's what the majority of this trilogy feels like to me...faceless and empty. Aside from the first half of Batman Begins there's no life to any of these characters. They're cardboard cutouts citing their ideals as if reading from an instruction manual. And that's where this whole franchise fails as a whole for me. The human aspect is missing.
 
I would have preferred that Nolan did not include that part in the movie, also what was Gordon doing with the new Bat Signal ? Does he expect Batman to return ?

I think the new signal was a gift from Bruce. He seemed surprised when he saw it. Just Bruce's message to Gordon that he was still alive.
 
This is why I can't stand the n00bs that come out whenever a new movie is released. They post for the sake to b**** and complain then when a poster answers their b****ing with a respectuful and decent response, they'll still b**** and resort to condescending to said poster.

:whatever:

Yup I had better things to do then post 7000 comments and force myself to love a movie that clearly was sub-par. I did however feel compelled to share my opinion with people - and I'm far from the only one who looked fwd to this for yrs and felt let down.
 
I think the new signal was a gift from Bruce. He seemed surprised when he saw it. Just Bruce's message to Gordon that he was still alive.

that and also a message to the criminals, in tdk when gordon was on the roof with the other cop he said ever if he doesnt see batman he has it on to let the criminals know he is still around. Could be the same thing, people think batman is dead but using the symbol and the light will make criminals second guess it and may not commit many crimes.
 
I kinda 'hate to ut it tis way, as I don't want to sound like I thought it was crap...I didn't.


But I felt like a good deal of the magic wore off by this third movie.


I didn't think the magic got going with this franchise until TDK and TDKR took it to a new level..
 
I was disappointed when I saw it the first time. I recommend everyone see it twice. When you let go of expectations and follow what the movie is trying to portray, it's really a brilliant film. Much better the second time.

As for the plot hole on the Bat, Nolan is a pretty calculated guy. I can't see him or anyone else involved in the film not noticing they were looking at the Bat after a nuclear explosion.
 
Yup I had better things to do then post 7000 comments and force myself to love a movie that clearly was sub-par. I did however feel compelled to share my opinion with people - and I'm far from the only one who looked fwd to this for yrs and felt let down.

The guy responded to every single one of your criticisms with a pretty decent retort and rather than try and explain or try to get into an actual discussion about it you resorted to simply condescending insults.

You have an opinion, fine. Doesn't mean you gotta start acting like a brat when some one decides to call out your opinion and your what is in MY OPINION...petty nitpicking.
 
I thought this was a good supehero flick, but not great and not seeing TDK. Nothing more or nothing less. The flaws of this movie are very noticeable and this time there was no Heath performance to cover them up.

-The second half of the movie where Bruce was in the jail dragged on way toooo long too much unnecessary dialogue.

-so Bruce has his back broken, was walking around with a cane earlier in the movie but somehow manages to escape this underground cell? And how exactly does he get back to Gotham? Did Superman bring him back? Remember he was bankrupt and didn't have his Bat-toys to assist him.

-Attempting to blow up Gotham again felt like deja vu. Yeah, yeah I know this movie is bringing everything "full circle" but did Nolan really have to recycle the same exact villian goal as BB?

-Speaking of blowing up Gotham, if Bane and LOS was so intent on blowing Gotham off the face of the Earth why did it take months for the bomb to go off? He was able to bring down the bridges and the football stadiums days after he arrived...why did he stop there? Ohhh, let's wait for Bruce to get out of the cell and make his return and then the bomb will detonate :doh: Sorry, but the bomb being set to go off the day after Bruce returns is just flat out ridiculous.

-Talia's turn had no punch at all. Barely written into the movie, bad build-up for her character, the turn just happened with absolutely zero emotional weight behind it.

-Hardy did a good job as Bane, but his voice was hard to understand at times. No excuse for that. He sounded like a old, mumbling mess at times. And I wasn't too fond of him ending up being Talia's bodyguard. It brought down the character a few notches and made him seem like a brute goon instead of the evil mastermind the movie had built him up as. And the crying, oh the crying..reminded me of this unfortunately..

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+I did enjoy Bale's performance, he clearly brought his A game to this one. That first Bane fight, when he was screaming and growling as Bane kept beating him up was powerful stuff. I couldn't help but root for Bruce to keep getting back up even though I knew the inevitable was coming. That whole fight scene was very well done, loved the fact that there was no music and all you heard was Bane's punches beating Bats to a pulp.

+JGL was great as well, he was the other stand-out for me. And after not being excited about Anne's casting I have to say I was wrong. She was great and brought some much needed fun and excitement to the movie. The scenes with Alfred and Fox were short but very effective as well.

+ I actually liked the ending alot. Alot of people are saying Bruce should have died but when you think about it he did..to the citizens of Gotham. They had a Batman statue built and a grave for Bruce next to his parents. The only people who know he's really alive are Fox, Gordon and Alfred. To everyone else in Gotham he's a martyr and a legend. Meanwhile, Bruce finally has a chance for a new beginning with Selina and a chance to leave Batman behind. I understand die hard purists don't like it but for Nolan's version of Batman it makes sense and concludes his story in a satisfying way.

Overall movie had a good 1st and 3rd acts and a good ending but that 2nd half was borderline dreadful. But the movie has major flaws that I couldn't overlook and brought it down for me.
 
I loved it. Saw it twice already, and I think it was just as good, if not better the second time around. Everything about this trilogy makes me so happy to be a Batman fan. :D
 
The guy responded to every single one of your criticisms with a pretty decent retort and rather than try and explain or try to get into an actual discussion about it you resorted to simply condescending insults.

You have an opinion, fine. Doesn't mean you gotta start acting like a brat when some one decides to call out your opinion and your what is in MY OPINION...petty nitpicking.

You call this a decent reort - "This is why I can't stand the n00bs that come out whenever a new movie is released. They post for the sake to b**** and complain then when a poster answers their b****ing with a respectuful and decent response, they'll still b**** and resort to condescending to said poster" ?

Thanks for pointing out all of my problems with this, I see where you're coming from now - let me say that I love this movie because you said I must. It was the greatest thing I've ever seen and Hollywood should stop making movies after this.
 
The difference is, i'm not trying to get into a discussion with you.

I'm simply chastising you for insulting the poster that did.
 
What insult?? He was telling me that my opinion was wrong and I was nitpicking the movie, when there are clearly gaping holes in it - and I certainly don't need to justify my opinion to neither him or yourself. You loved it or need to love it, I get that. I don't, so please get that.
 
This was his response to your opinion:

for me I realized probably when he tossed the gun that Blake was Nightwing. knowing he was Nightwing/Robin made me sure that Batman wasn't going to die when he flew off. why? because there's absolutely no reason why Nolan needed to kill Batman when he gave himself a better resolution with Batman's heir.

as for Rachel, the point is that Alfred wanted Bruce to move on. he was trying to tell Bruce that his father wouldn't have wanted him to dwell on some mythical past but move on with his life. like Bruce, Thomas Wayne lived his responsibilities to the city (and gave his life to the city) but he also lived his life. he was NO LESS COMMITTED to Gotham but he didn't have Bruce's twisted psychosis because he never suffered like Bruce.

Alfred cares about Bruce, not Gotham. the only reason he helped Bruce save Gotham was hoping that Bruce would work through his issues. when it became clear he would not, there was no reason for Alfred to stay. he is consistent in all 3 movies.

He didn't tell you your opinion was wrong. He was simply trying to explain certain aspects of the film that you were criticizing.

Your response?

Um ok - thank you for clearing things up - have you ever considered taking a ph.D in ********?? Because you're a stellar candidate for one - just submit this nonsensical diatribe and your qualifications will speak for itself.

I have no qualms about people and their opinions, but what I do have issues with is people who resort to sarcasm and condescending simply because they refuse to see another persons point.

You don't need to justify your opinion to anyone on these boards, TRUE. But this is a discussion board. You don't want to take part in a discussion? Post your opinion and let it be. Don't get all defensive and childish because someone wants to discuss your point of view.
 
This was an epic ending to series, this was about Bruce no longer having the BATMAN his dark passanger no longer in him. He was a man defeated and was looking for death, Bane was his answer to death.

This doesn't have TDK feel to it and that's great, what we had with this film was an epic war drama that brought good vs evil, if anything this film should have gone 25 min longer to do it justice.

Bane was nothing but a mere tool of the LOS which is just epic, all films are connected as it should be! pushes the limits in a comic book movie
 
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I loved it. Saw it twice already, and I think it was just as good, if not better the second time around. Everything about this trilogy makes me so happy to be a Batman fan. :D

same here! its the ending that was perfect, this was the way Nolan wanted to end his franchise. This is best comic book movie series of all time, hands down.
 
I'm curious about one thing. TDKR has gotten some really great reviews lately on RT ranging from 8 to 10 with many 9's and 10's in there. So why is the average rating not changing at all?
 
I freaking loved it! They had me believe that Tate was NOT Talia for a moment there. Cool stuff.
But I laugh a little that for a movie that tries sooo hard to be a "real movie" toning down the comic book side of things - It had a lot of emotional cheese to it. Some scenes felt a bit like rami's Spidey.
Also some scenes were ripped from BB and TDK. "The moral ambiguity" - when it all falls we are naught but animals concept from the boot scene was repeated in the Football stadium. "One of you has the trigger".

I can also see people make funny youtube videos of the scene with the gunner shooting at Batman before his first fight with Bane.

Next time you watch it try hearing: "You mess with Spidey you mess with all of us" at key points, it's kind of funny :woot:

Still I loved it.
Here's hoping that the next series of movies are more Comic booky while still being "badass" and free of drawn out cheese monologs.

Cheesy? Really? God forbid a movie has emotion. I love the monolgues in these movies. I like that it "tries to be a real movie" instead of an Avengers-esque overly cheesy comic bookey movie. Not that there's anything wrong with being comic booky, but there's not much emotion in those movies, but maybe it's just me. We got that with Burton, etc. I love that Nolan did something different and it works. I'm glad he took Batman seriously.
 
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I'm curious about one thing. TDKR has gotten some really great reviews lately on RT ranging from 8 to 10 with many 9's and 10's in there. So why is the average rating not changing at all? [Quote/]

Either the ratings change based on time, or they round the averages.

Also, I'm confused by this thread. So it's another spoiler thread, but there is no discussion just postings of spoilers? Oops did I break some rule lol:woot:

Great film, need to see it again. May go tonight. Great Superhero movie. Batman was great, though I don't like that he was so wounded and stuff from all his fights and had the body of a pro-wrestler in his 60s (bad joints, no cartilage).

Also, um how is this guys suit so high tech, but it can't stop a knife? I wouldn't have minded if he faked that he was wounded and then got up or something, but c'mon. He can't have a fully padded/armored suit and still be able to turn his head??? Sorry, that's making the man too vulnerable IMO. You should not be able to stab batman unless his suit is really torn up and there are holes lol.
 
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