Teddy Sears IS Jay Garrick

with what I put up last night and what I suspected of the the jay(which I still call fake Jay << and I said I'll keep calling him that and that was me speaking for my self. ) that hungout at Earth 1 star labs team's HQ. it looks like what I suspected of that latter was correct and mr.Andrew Kreisberg headed to what I always suspected.

as to Zoom I don't think he was ever a native of earth 2

the man in the iron mask may be the real Jay and I still think he hold all the answers and details and will straighten's thing's out once Barry recuse him.


this was put up some time ago.


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Now that we know how Zoom really is... we realize we still don't know who Zoom really is.




"The Flash's" Huge Zoom Reveal, Explained -- Sort Of
Confused by the shocking revelation of Zoom's true identity? This handy guide will help clear things up -- or more likely confuse you further.

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Teddy Sear's spoilery behind-the-scenes pic reveals a new complication Jay Garrick has to deal with as "Flash" forges ahead.




"Flash's" Sears Shows How Much Jay Garrick's Changed Over Six Months
Teddy Sear's spoilery behind-the-scenes pic reveals a new complication Jay Garrick has to deal with as "Flash" forges ahead.

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Oh yeah! Totally forgot about the Supergirl crossover.
So multiple Earths! This is going to lead to Infiite Crisis isn't it!?

 

Shouldn't the title say:

Spoiler

Teddy Sears IS Zoom

 

Nah, that's too much of a spoiler to stick in a thread title. Not everybody has watched every episode, after all.

Also, its not like Teddy Sears isn't almost certainly *also* playing the real Jay Garrick, too.

 

This. If you haven't caught up or are watching it for the first time later on, you don't want this title showing up in the forum or on the new posts page. And the thing is, he was Jay Garrick and maybe still is, so that's not invalidated.

 

Teddy Sears is EVERYONE.

 

Yeah, but only after Barry marries Iris and builds Gideon, per season 1's future newspaper.

 

He should be.

 

With the whole V9 formula is Zoom not an amalgam of Hunter Zolomon and the Rival who was the bad guy in the comics to Jay Garrick's Flash?

 

yes that's what it looks like for now.

 

Maybe Zolomon on earth 2 is simply a doppelganger of earth 1 Zolomon and neither of them are the real Jay Garrick. Maybe Earth 2 Henry Allen is Jay Garrick.

 

I saw in two places that they address what Henry been up to this whole time, but it was earth one Henry. but some people are in for a shock as far as this thing with wanting him in the mystery of the man in the iron mask.

As to earth 2 henry. nothing been said be said be side him being in Atlantis with earthy 2 Barry's mother.

 

RUPTURE DEBUTS, HENRY ALLEN RETURNS IN NEW "FLASH" SYNOPSIS

The upcoming "Flash" episode, titled "Rupture," will introduce the Earth-2 counterpart of Cisco's brother Dante.

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Putting up a spoiler warning




"THE FLASH'S" VERSION OF JAY GARRICK IS 'NO REINVENTION,' SAYS EP GREG BERLANTI

"The Flash" executive producer teased that there's more to the show's version of Jay Garrick than meets the eye and encouraged fans to keep watching.




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Eventually won't this thread title need to be changed if Teddy Sears is only Hunter Zolomon, and Jay Garrick is played by someone else?

 

Essentially Hunter played the role of the rival (Dr. Edward Clariss) who is basically the arch-nemesis version of Reverse Flash for Garrick's Flash in fact one issue Clariss captured Jay keep him hostage while he went around town disparaging Flash's reputation by committing robberies in Jay's costume. Similar to what occurred in this season of The Flash, the main difference was Zoom charade was more of a Hero version of a younger Jay Garrick in Earth II.

 

I definitely think Zoom was much more like The Rival than Hunter Zolomon. I wonder why they went with calling him Hunter when they could have just as easily called him Edward Clariss. The season literally wouldn't have changed at all and they could have left Hunter Zolomon open to be a Wally West villain in the future

 

Yeah, a bit of a shame they wasted the Zolomon/Zoom name like that, they could always use E1 Zolomon several seasons down the road but it'd risk coming off as a retread if it wasn't handled perfectly.

 

I'm hazarding a guess

Spoiler

that there potentially is a version of Zoom still out there given Barry's changing of the timeline likely erased their entire conflict. Plus there could be a Black Racer version of Zoom in future as a time remnant similar to how Eobard Reverse Flash is still able to exist in some form.

If there could be two versions then I would maybe suggest having Teddy Sreatrs remain Hunter/Zoom with Tony Todd being the voice of the Black Racer.

 

I tend to think the Black Racer won't be a time remnant so much as it will *be* Zoom, after Zoom had been taken by the time wraiths/Speed Force. The time wraiths themselves will be remnants of Zoom, spun out to suffer and die in the cause of maintaining the time stream.

 

Just saw Sears in an early episode of CSI: Miami. He looks a little different to his appearance in the Flash.

 

After some days of re-thinking I still don't get a satisfying answer.
I'll put it in spoilers if there's someone who didn't watch it until now.

Spoiler

So at the end, Zoom is Hunter Zolomon from Earth2, who was affected by the particular accelerator' dark matter during his electroshock therapy. He became Zoom and also took the name "Jay Garrick" from another speedster from another earth (the man in the iron mask).
He went to Earth1 to search for The Flash (Barry Allen). There he sneaked in the StarLabs Team and acted as a mentor.
And then he gets killed by Zoom...
A few postings above there is this theory of multiple Jay Garricks. Now we know that can't be true.
So who is the guy (Jay Garrick) that was killed byy Zoom? I've read that it should be some Kind of time remnant, too. But I think I've also read somewhere that this can't be possible, too - because time remnants can't exist in different Multiverses.
Also I didn't know that such a time remnant leaves a liefeless body.

So imho it can't be true.
But if it's the case and this is the official Explanation that it really should be a time remnant, than we have never seen the real Jay Garrick from Earth 2 (who should look like Barry's dad, too.) True?

So please... can anyone explain who this guy is, that is killed by Zoom at the end of the "King Shark" ep?
I know I'll have to explain it to my son when re-watching this with him and I still got no clue.

 

It IS a time remnant of Hunter Zolomon (who was never Jay Garrick but only used that name, taken from the real Jay Garrick).

Zolomon himself explained that it was a time remnant. It's not that people have speculated that it should be one. The time remnant is the official explanation given within the show.

And yes, we haven't seen the real Jay Garrick from Earth 2, if there even is one. He might simply be Earth 2 Henry Allen. Maybe only on Earth 3 he goes by the name Jay Garrick. After all, Earth 1 Henry doesn't go by Jay.

 

I don't know how I feel about Teddy coming back. The character ran its course. I have nothing against the actor it's just I would hate the writers to rehash everything again with Zoom. The plot will be messy.