Teddy Sears IS Jay Garrick

This is also assuming that fake Jay is from another earth or time line .

Fake Jay could be a guy that used tech to steal the man in the iron masks looks like Eobard did with "Real earth one Dr. Wells ."


Again Earth 2 is more advance tech wise. Well the one with all the answers is the man in the iron mask.


Only he can sort this all out for us. Too bad there's no other way to confirm it all beside him.

 

Although 'possible', I'd hate them to use that bodyswitching thing again tbh.

 

Oh, and we should totally rename the thread, "Teddy Sears IS Jay Garrick and Zoom"

 

Well seeing that ,if the man iron mask is the true Jay, it technically not switching in the same sense as before. But I know what you mean .

but I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility . It's just an idea anyway. and I'm putting up just in case. it's more likely the former with doppelgangers. But the other way with some of them just impersonating Jay by stealing his looks via his DNA and still keeping him alive compared to what Eobard did on earth one is very possible too.

 

Anything's possible in a show that basically had no rules
Different timelines
Different earths
Bodyswitching

Anyone can be someone else, any time

 

oh man.

 

I'd assume that the complication Zoom is talking about is the fact that the portals are now closed and he can't access Earth-1 again.

 

I bet he regrets killing reverb now.



Oh and congrats to teddy sears for get the role of head of CTU in 24


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Teddy Sears will race the ticking clock in Fox's "24" reboot.



"The Flash's" Teddy Sears Joins "24: Legacy"
The actor, who plays Jay Garrick on "The Flash," has been cast as the new head of CTU in the Fox pilot.

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Teddy Sears is.... Everybody.

 

Possibility: Teddy Sears only plays two characters, and it does not involve cloens, twins, or time travel:

Jay Garrick - Jay Garrick is really Jay Garrick and from Earth-2. He himself is not Zoom, nor is he working for Zoom. Most of what he told Team Flash is true. He is also most likely not actually dead.

Zoom - Zoom is Hunter Zolomon, AKA Jay's Earth-1 counterpart (the one that Jay and Caitlin saw in the park). That would explain why his costume looks like Barry's instead of Jay's.



The Man in the Iron Mask isn't Jay Garrick or any version of him. Instead, he is a separate character (would be awesome if it was a JSA member like Dr. Fate) who knows Jay Garrick. He doesn't know about the parallel Earths (at least until Barry/Flash is captured and brought to Zoom's lair), but he has seen Zoom's face, so he assumes that Zoom is the Jay he knows, instead of his counterpart from a parallel universe. That's what he was trying to tell Barry and Jesse, and why he reacted the way he did when Barry told him Jay was fine. "No, Jay is not fine, Jay is Zoom!"

I have no idea what Zoom meant by "This is a complication", though.

 

Again, very disappointed with the treatment of Jay Garrick who is the original Flash.

 

ok Andrew Kreisberg made another statment


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Will the season (and Zoom storyline) end in a satisfying way?




Kreisberg Says "Flash" Fans Should Have Seen Zoom's Identity Reveal Coming
"Flash" EP Andrew Kreisberg promises "everything will make sense in a very satisfying way."

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When Garrick lost his speed, would he have been considered a Jay walker?

 

The producers said the man in the mask's reveal would be an even bigger shock to the audience, and he's masked for a reason; its because he's someone we either already know, or will soon get to know, hence why they're hiding his face. My theory is that it's Eddie Thawne, who had been working with Jay / E-2 Flash, and was captured by Zoom because of it. The question is, is it E-1 Eddie that survived, or Eddie's E-2 counterpart…?

I think Zoom himself might be the future version of the Jay he killed, hence the line. Question is, why wasn't he erased from existence after killing his past self….?

 

Maybe the complication is because now Zoom can no longer have Jay as an inside man within Team Flash.

 

Yup! Perhaps the complication is that he's just killed 'Everyman' who took the form of Jay, but now he can't do that anymore.

Personally i don't want this to be true but you never know!

 

My head is well and truly hurting...............but in a really good way! (is that even possible?) lol

Truth is i have way too many questions after that big reveal.

Firstly, how the heck has Zoom been able to jump from E2 to E1 using ANY of the breaches, whereas Barry can only use the Speed Canon?? Is it because Zoom is simply a lot faster??

Secondly, the writers of the show have already mentioned that Zoom AND the E2 Jay (the one that has been helping Team Flash), are one and the same person. But how!?? We clearly see at the end of 'King Shark' that Zoom kills E2 Jay and drops him to the floor - so the are clearly 2 different people - right??

Lastly, if the man in the iron mask is E1 Eddie or E1 Henry, then why wouldn't they have recognised Barry straight away, gone crazy in the cell trying to get his attention AND rather than spelling out J-A-Y, they should've just spelled out their OWN NAME!! lol

Anyway, one things for sure, i'm absolutely loving Season 2. The Flash is by far the best thing on TV

 

Don't know how Team Barry Jay could have been E2 Everyman. Isn't it kinda implied only ex-speedsters would regain their speed using Velocity, even if for a short while?

 

I think it should be re-titled, "Teddy Sears IS Hunter Zolomon/Zoom". A new thread needs to be created for another actor who's playing the real Garrick.

 

I don't think it should be entitled anything different for the time being, because some people may not have seen the episode yet, and if they subscribe to that thread or even visit the Flash forum or look on "new posts" they'll automatically see a spoiler given away. I only watched the episode last night. If the title had already been changed, then the ending would've been spoiled.

 

I think Jay is the man in the iron mask

 

Good point!
So then its back to the 'multiples of Jay Garrick' theory.
Personally i'd love for them to introduce E3 and more, but i think it's a) too early in the show and b) possibly going to overcomplicate things for the viewers.

I do however like the theory that 'the man in the park' was actually Jay Garrick from Earth 1, therefore the man in the iron mask is Jay from E2, leaving Zoom to be the Hunter Zolomon from E2 and the Jay that had been helping Team Flash is the actual Hunter Zoloman from E1.

.....does that work!?!?

 

That's why i think Zoom is the future version of E-2 Jay (Hunter Solomon). In that regards they are indeed the same person and validates Zoom's final line..."This is a complication"

 

Andrew Kreisberg gave two pretty much simultaneous sets of comments to two different news outlets, but said sets of comments are massively contradictory to one another.

The second set of comments, which is what you're referring to here, is also contradictory to what we have actually been shown.

I therefore don't think we can reliably say at this point that Kreisberg's comments on this issue are 100% verifiably accurate (although I personally choose to favor and accept the first set of comments, which do correspond with things that we have been shown thus far).

 

Don't forget, we're getting a Flash/Supergirl crossover. So they are already moving beyond Earth-2.