Ten Things Christians & Athiests Can (& Must) Agree On...

[MaskedManJRK]

http://www.cracked.com/article_15663_god-fuse-10-things-christians-atheists-can-must-agree-on.html

I thought this was a pretty good, even-handed article and, considering some of the more epic debates concerning religion on these boards, something we should all take a look at.

 

[C.F. Kane]

I'm sorry, but I still can be happy that Jerry Falwell is dead. It's not like I went to his funeral holding a sign saying "Ding-Dong the Prick is Dead".

But on the whole it was a good article. It explained atheism in ways that a religious person can understand. That doesn't happen a lot, so I'm grateful for that.

 

[Hotwire]

But on the whole it was a good article. It explained atheism in ways that a religious person can understand. That doesn't happen a lot, so I'm grateful for that.

Well, a religious person with an intelligent mind, anyway. But I agree, good article.

 

[primemover]

1. You Can Do Terrible Things in the Name of Either One

This is pretty idiotic, just because somebody who doesn't believe in a higher power does something horrible doesn't mean that person is doing it in the name of athiesm. I bet Ted Bundy was a fan of baseball, but nobody in their right mind would say he murdered all of those people in the name of Baseball.

On the other hand, plenty of people have died in the name of their God.

 

[Zoken]

This is pretty idiotic, just because somebody who doesn't believe in a higher power does something horrible doesn't mean that person is doing it in the name of athiesm. I bet Ted Bundy was a fan of baseball, but nobody in their right mind would say he murdered all of those people in the name of Baseball.

On the other hand, plenty of people have died in the name of their God.

If you go to cancer center and tell people to stop praying because God doesn't exist, you're doing something terrible. Not because you're necessarily wrong, but because a positive mind-frame and hope have been show to improve chances of recovery.

 

[primemover]

If you go to cancer center and tell people to stop praying because God doesn't exist, you're doing something terrible. Not because you're necessarily wrong, but because a positive mind-frame and hope have been show to improve chances of recovery.

. . well damn, now my weekend's shot!

 

[Zoken]

Hey, I've known people who do this. Some *******s just won't be happy unless everyone believes what they believe.

 

[primemover]

Hey, I've known people who do this. Some *******s just won't be happy unless everyone believes what they believe.

Why not be angry at the *******s that tell sick people God will cure them if they just believe and pray, even to the extent of stopping treatment.

 

[Zoken]

Why not be angry at the *******s that tell sick people God will cure them if they just believe and pray, even to the extent of stopping treatment.

I have never heard of this actually happening. I mean, I've heard of people praying and believing IN SUPPLIMENT TO their medical treatment, but I've never actually heard of people who go around preaching that faith alone will cure them, and to use medicine is against God. But yeah, that would be *******-ish behavior as well.

 

[November Rain]

relgious and athiest people can all agree on...

Paladin needs to come back to the hype....

 

[terry78]

There are extremists on both end of the spectrum. Unfortunately, those are the ones that get the attention and tend to instigate ****. I know both people that are pretty religious and are agnostic respectively, and don't really broadcast it or try to convert others. Hell, I'm not a drinker, but don't have a reason to go around preaching alcohol's evils...but those that do will put me in the same group as them.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

[BLACKOUT]

There are heroes on both sides.
Evil is everywhere.

In a stunning move, the
fiendish Agnostic leader,
Wilhelm-Scream, has swept into the
cancer ward to tell patients that
no one hears their prayers​

[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Zoken]

But there is one to stop him.
One who can and will convert
Optimus Christ
"Christians, Convert And Roll Out"​

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

heh, "Convert and Roll Out" .

 

[Zoken]

When it's right, it's right.

 

[Orko Is King]

I love the lion pic.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I'm sorry, but I still can be happy that Jerry Falwell is dead. It's not like I went to his funeral holding a sign saying "Ding-Dong the Prick is Dead".

But on the whole it was a good article. It explained atheism in ways that a religious person can understand. That doesn't happen a lot, so I'm grateful for that.

I'm not HAPPY he's dead, but I can't help but think of scenarios where, if there is a God, Falwell is floating up towards Heaven, until St. Peter sees Falwell floating towards them and gafaws.

"You can't be f**king serious!" St. Peter cries and presses a button on his desk. Falwell's wings disapears and he plummets to the pits of Hell.

Is that bad?

This is pretty idiotic, just because somebody who doesn't believe in a higher power does something horrible doesn't mean that person is doing it in the name of athiesm. I bet Ted Bundy was a fan of baseball, but nobody in their right mind would say he murdered all of those people in the name of Baseball.

On the other hand, plenty of people have died in the name of their God.

You didn't read the rest of the article, did you?

The article exactly says that guys like Stalin and Pol Pot did not do their atrocities in the name of Athiesm, just like the religious did not do their crimes in the name of actual Christianity or religion but a warped, hateful version of it.

I have never heard of this actually happening. I mean, I've heard of people praying and believing IN SUPPLIMENT TO their medical treatment, but I've never actually heard of people who go around preaching that faith alone will cure them, and to use medicine is against God. But yeah, that would be *******-ish behavior as well.

I can think of Jahovah's Witness people, who don't believe in blood transfusions. Other then that, no other real example of something like that. Wouldn't be surprised if there were people like that, though.

 

[Super Kal]

The article exactly says that guys like Stalin and Pol Pot did not do their atrocities in the name of Athiesm, just like the religious did not do their crimes in the name of actual Christianity or religion but a warped, hateful version of it.

exactly

 

[primemover]

You didn't read the rest of the article, did you?

The article exactly says that guys like Stalin and Pol Pot did not do their atrocities in the name of Athiesm, just like the religious did not do their crimes in the name of actual Christianity or religion but a warped, hateful version of it.

I read that, my point is from what I know nobody has committed atrocities in the name of their 'non-belief' in a diety, where the opposite is quite true, even if they want to call it a 'corrupted' belief.

 

[primemover]

I can think of Jahovah's Witness people, who don't believe in blood transfusions. Other then that, no other real example of something like that. Wouldn't be surprised if there were people like that, though.

Check it.

Not to say these people are going around trying to bring people into their fold while they are ailing in the hospital though.