Terminator Salvation: Box Office Prediction/Discussion

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That post was a little b**cher than I wanted it to be but I still mostly stand by it.

 

[dark_b]

fate. FATE

people are calling this ending lazy? its basically a retread of T2, but instead of a dark road its a dark horizon with helicoptors flying around

the differnee is that it was the last movie from cameron. he knew it. this is supposed to start a franchise.

please explain to me how this ending had anything to do with connor in the movie?

 

[dark_b]

Some people enjoyed it as much and it is a sequel .. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

if someone says that the sky is red does this mean that this is hes opinion?

 

[Crook]

Film quality is subjective (as is all art), color is not (as is all facts).

 

[dark_b]

i know i know. but its T2 for christ sake.

then lets say it like that. Uwe boll is the best director. is this a normal opinion?

 

[Crook]

Whether or not it's the norm is of no consequence, as opinions can never be turned to fact.

 

[dark_b]

well i ill never take serious people who will say that PIXAR is making the worst movies.or that Uwe boll is a great director

and so its crazy in my opinion ( he he he ) to say that T4 is better or the same like T2.

 

[matrix_ghost]

the differnee is that it was the last movie from cameron. he knew it. this is supposed to start a franchise.

please explain to me how this ending had anything to do with connor in the movie?

Duh don't you get it.
Connor flying with chopper into the sunset means that the next movie will have Connor breaking into SKynet ( again) , steal the time machine and reprgram it , go our present time and get Michael Bay to direct the next movie.



btw I enjoyed T:S alot. So much that i'm going to watch it for a 2nd time today. That is if i can manage to find a theater where i can watch Hangover and T:s back-to-back

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

dark b it is all opinions but sometimes people can have wrong opinions

Sorry I don't understand what opinions are.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Stop comparing this choppy peice of trash to T2 and T1 for that matter.

I mean you can love Terminator Salvation till the cows come home and think that either T2 and T1 are overrated or just T2 or just T1 but one thing is forsure; Those movies have better direction, coherent scripts and better performances in them. Not saying that they were Oscar worthy or perfect but with the expection of Furlong (who was a first timer so there was an excuse) the performances were still better. And I'm not even a big fan of Behin as an actor but he was better than Bale and Worthington were IMHO.

I agree with this, I liked T3 and TS, but neither hold a candle to the first 2, but, realistically, did anyone expect them too?

 

[dark_b]

I agree with this, I liked T3 and TS, but neither hold a candle to the first 2, but, realistically, did anyone expect them too?

i think that TF has a better story then TS

yeah i am crazy.

 

[dark_b]

I agree with this, I liked T3 and TS, but neither hold a candle to the first 2, but, realistically, did anyone expect them too?

i think that TF has a better story then TS

yeah i am crazy.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

i think that TF has a better story then TS

yeah i am crazy.

Well, TF is another movie I love, and I thought it had a pretty good story.

 

[dark_b]

Well, TF is another movie I love, and I thought it had a pretty good story.

i also like TF.

but i never imagined that there would be a day when a bay directed TF movie would have a better story then a terminator movie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

i also like TF.

but i never imagined that there would be a day when a bay directed TF movie would have a better story then a terminator movie.

I dont think the story of TS was the problem, just the execution of some of it. I loved the John Connor and Marcus storyline in the movie.

 

[Cain]

I hated TF as much as I hated TS I was just so aggravated sitting through that mess and the fact that it was so long made it even worse. I would say I found TS slightly more entertaining because I could actually follow the action at least and it wasn't riddled with beyond corny jokes and some really bad overacting (I'm looking at you Turturro, Voight and Anthony Anderson especially) all throughout. But that's like saying I prefer to step on a dry turd than on a puddle of diarrhea because it's less messy.

 

[BestGirl]

I agree with this, I liked T3 and TS, but neither hold a candle to the first 2, but, realistically, did anyone expect them too?

I'm sure people here thought TS would.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I'm one of that guys that thought TS might be as good as T1-T2. If it wasn't for the early reviews and bad word of mouth, I probably would have hated this movie completely simply because of the sheer disappointment. Thankfully, the bad response made me lower my expectations significantly and I was able to enjoy the film for what it was.

 

[bullets]

if someone says that the sky is red does this mean that this is hes opinion?

He might have blood in his retina.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

How Terminator Salvation became the most expensive independent film of all-time
June 12, 3:04 PM

The Terminator franchise has always had its roots firmly planted in the independent filmmaking world. Over twenty years ago, James Cameron wrote the screenplay for The Terminator in his car, which also happened to double as his studio apartment. And it was a small company called Hemdale that took a chance and produced the film that would become, at that time, the most expensive independently financed feature in history.

Fast-forward to 2003 and the production of the much-maligned T3, which in hindsight at least could boast an Arnold who was not an all-too fleeting CGI effect. Although the film was 100% Warner financed, it took the efforts of its headlining star, in full-on preparatory mode for a prospective Governor run, to move the production from Canada to Burbank soundstages. And it took that very same Austrian giant to reach into his own pocket to the tune of $3 million to ensure a key action sequence was not cut -- the extensive car/fire truck chase through the streets of Los Angeles.

With Hemdale long gone, it seemed as though the franchise was to be studio-financed from there on out. Indeed, Warner had tentatively began pre-production on a sequel to T3 known as Project Angel, with Schwarzenegger in a minor role. C2 Pictures, the production company that longtime producers and rights holders Andrew Vajna and Mario Kassar setup to reestablish the franchise with Terminator 3, was hemorrhaging from the inside-out. Before a Warner-produced sequel could advance, C2 sold the rights to independent entity The Halcyon Company, and the T4 we see today began to be put together.

Even without the Governor of California’s participation, the production of Terminator Salvation would, as is its want, balloon to the tune of $200 million -- easily putting the film as the most expensive indie feature film of all time. At time of writing, pic has pulled in just over $200 million worldwide. Factoring in the $100 million spent on marketing plus ancillaries, Terminator Salvation will begin to go into profit when it hits the DVD/Blu-Ray-Regular/Director’s Cut/Extended Cut, multiple editions market.

And that’s more than can be said for 95% of all independent features.

 

[dark_b]

i dont think it will make a lot of profit.

BO a lot of times shows how the DVD's will sale. look at IM.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I'm sure people here thought TS would.

Not really. Most were optimistic but also had pretty realistic expectations. If anyone expected a movie on par with Cameron's films, they were setting themselves up for disappointment.

I said the very same thing last year:

I'm optimistic over Salvation and do think McG has good intentions in regards to this franchise but anyone expecting this movie to measure up to Cameron's films is setting themselves to be disappointed. All that really matters is that it's respectful to Cameron's story and it's well made and entertaining. If it accomplishes that, It'll succeed.

 

[bullets]

At least it made it's money back , i guess.

 

[Dark Victory]

i dont think it will make a lot of profit.

BO a lot of times shows how the DVD's will sale. look at IM.

Not always. Look at Fight Club and Hellboy.

 

[LostSon88]

And the first Austin Powers (technically VHS but those sales are what prompted the sequels...)