Can we give an enormous round of applause to Josh who killed it in his performance as The Mad Titan Thanos. He was magnificent in Infinity War, and an ultra Badass in Endgame.
I liked that we got to see the conquering Titan in his prime. He was able to stand his ground against Earth's Mightiest Heroes even without the aid of The Infinity Guantlet. That's a Supreme order to undertake and yet he does it with almost effortless until Scarlett Witch almost crushed him with her chaos power as well as Captain Marvel who almost defeats him. Until he uses the power stone to send her flying.
I think it was fitting that he meets his end by Tony outsmarting him. It a call back to Infinity War where they're battle on Titan was impactful and had Doctor Strange not intervined they'd probably have lost.
Can we give an enormous round of applause to Josh who killed it in his performance as The Mad Titan Thanos. He was magnificent in Infinity War, and an ultra Badass in Endgame.
I liked that we got to see the conquering Titan in his prime. He was able to stand his ground against Earth's Mightiest Heroes even without the aid of The Infinity Guantlet. That's a Supreme order to undertake and yet he does it with almost effortless until Scarlett Witch almost crushed him with her chaos power as well as Captain Marvel who almost defeats him. Until he uses the power stone to send her flying.
I think it was fitting that he meets his end by Tony outsmarting him. It a call back to Infinity War where they're battle on Titan was impactful and had Doctor Strange not intervined they'd probably have lost.
And then, what the hell would they do? Hold a trial that would be a farce even by ICC standards, and then. . . what? Tell the Avengers "Hey, could you come here and execute the guy"? Ask Thanos if he'd be willing to stay in his jail cell on the honor system?
And then, what the hell would they do? Hold a trial that would be a farce even by ICC standards, and then. . . what? Tell the Avengers "Hey, could you come here and execute the guy"? Ask Thanos if he'd be willing to stay in his jail cell on the honor system?
Can we give an enormous round of applause to Josh who killed it in his performance as The Mad Titan Thanos. He was magnificent in Infinity War, and an ultra Badass in Endgame.
I liked that we got to see the conquering Titan in his prime. He was able to stand his ground against Earth's Mightiest Heroes even without the aid of The Infinity Guantlet. That's a Supreme order to undertake and yet he does it with almost effortless until Scarlett Witch almost crushed him with her chaos power as well as Captain Marvel who almost defeats him. Until he uses the power stone to send her flying.
I think it was fitting that he meets his end by Tony outsmarting him. It a call back to Infinity War where they're battle on Titan was impactful and had Doctor Strange not intervined they'd probably have lost.
Thanos shattered the mighty shield into pieces, and kicked the crap out of the Hulk. A vibranium cell isn't going to do much more than slow him down, if he actually wants out.
Even if they did that, how does that negate the point I was trying to make? 2018 Thanos destroyed the stones after the snap. He was done as far as being any kind of threat, even if he was left alive (which wasn't going to happen with Thor in the room).
My issue isn't the "nobility" of it, or the fact that he thinks he's doing the right/neccessary thing.
It's that once again, he opens his mouth to monologue and it just immediately feels like he literally didn't think his plan through at all. Which serves to weaken him as a character. It makes him seem both less intelligent and less competent. It's a smaller version of the execution issues that plagued the character in INFINITY WAR. The complexity of his motivations end up amounting to a half baked attempt to make him seem deeper and relatable.
And then you have ENDGAME, where Thanos, who is supposedly all about preventing suffering...has like one minor setback and immediately brags about how he's going to relish...causing sufferg?
Aside from the obvious inconsistency, because this inconsistency is never addressed, the use of generic supervillain elements just serve to cheapen him as a villain and make him that much more generic in the end result. And maybe that's what they were going for. That ultimately he's kind of just a whiny thug. There's a precedent for that in the comics, I suppose.
Thanos shattered the mighty shield into pieces, and kicked the crap out of the Hulk. A vibranium cell isn't going to do much more than slow him down, if he actually wants out.
He only destroyed Cap's shield with his sword, which he obviously wouldn't have access to in his cell lol.
Not to mention that Farmer Thanos was a shadow of his former self. Half of his body had been horrifically disfgured, he was limping really badly and then got his left hand cut off.
No way in heck would he be able to get out of a vibranium cell.
Even if they did that, how does that negate the point I was trying to make? 2018 Thanos destroyed the stones after the snap. He was done as far as being any kind of threat, even if he was left alive (which wasn't going to happen with Thor in the room).
Adolf Eichmann was no longer a threat when he was arrested by Mossad in 1960. But he still got tried for his past crimes.
Thanos was personally responsible for 3.5 billion human deaths (not to mention trillions of non-humans). Putting him on trial would only be natural.
Btw, I'm not saying that they should have put him on trial. Thor was right to kill him. I just find it amusing to think of the Mad Titan sitting in court lol.
My issue isn't the "nobility" of it, or the fact that he thinks he's doing the right/neccessary thing.
It's that once again, he opens his mouth to monologue and it just immediately feels like he literally didn't think his plan through at all. Which serves to weaken him as a character. It makes him seem both less intelligent and less competent. It's a smaller version of the execution issues that plagued the character in INFINITY WAR. The complexity of his motivations end up amounting to a half baked attempt to make him seem deeper and relatable.
And then you have ENDGAME, where Thanos, who is supposedly all about preventing suffering...has like one minor setback and immediately brags about how he's going to relish...causing sufferg?
Aside from the obvious inconsistency, because this inconsistency is never addressed, the use of generic supervillain elements just serve to cheapen him as a villain and make him that much more generic in the end result. And maybe that's what they were going for. That ultimately he's kind of just a whiny thug. There's a precedent for that in the comics, I suppose.
In IW the only motivation I questioned was his supposed love for Gamora. That is an integral scene in regards to furthering the plot - but it comes off empty to me and half-baked. It's a love that at no point in time was ever developed.
In Endgame, the first time I heard his battle speech I admit I thought "wow he sure did switch his quest pretty quickly". After multiple viewings it makes a whole lot more sense to me now and frankly I find it very well written. The Avengers very defiance and persistence in tracking down an alternate gauntlet was proof positive that people were not going to fully move on with their lives and make good with what was left. Hell it was a scene foreshadowed early on in the film during the meeting Rogers held for grieving snap survivors.
There's consistency to the character, but that's in no way reflective of the overall sanity of his plan in the first place or the rational or moral underpinnings of it.
It's always interesting to me how so many of these villainous characters get a strange following among the online public where there is a segment of fans that go beyond the villain having a point, but start to feel they have a good point. With Thanos suddenly so many are surprised that a zealot committed enough to decide to enact a plan to kill HALF of all life in the universe would be able to change his stance to something even more drastic to the point of making himself the dark GOD of a new creation? Guys... That's not a big leap for a person that's already decided he should be the one to decide the fate of half of everyone else in existence. It was madness from the start. Being surprised now feels like some weren't paying attention for whatever reason.
As ever... I point to the moment in CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER to explain the psychology of the super villain and why in universe the super villain and his plans are so chilling regardless of what we the viewer might think of them in regards to logic, or consistency or character or whatever...
Zola: Schmidt believes he walks in the footsteps of the gods...
Col. : Hmm?
Zola: Only the world itself will satisfy him...
Col. : You realize that's nuts, don't you?
Zola: The sanity of the plan is of no consequence.
Col. : And why is that?
Zola: BECAUSE HE CAN DO IT!
The title of the thread says it all... The Mad Titan.
Adolf Eichmann was no longer a threat when he was arrested by Mossad in 1960. But he still got tried for his past crimes.
Thanos was personally responsible for 3.5 billion human deaths (not to mention trillions of non-humans). Putting him on trial would only be natural.
Btw, I'm not saying that they should have put him on trial. Thor was right to kill him. I just find it amusing to think of the Mad Titan sitting in court lol.
As an aside, it would probably be a bad idea to even try and put Thanos on trial. Thanos is a charismatic megalomaniac, a trial would mean a chance for him to testify. At minimum, this would satisfy his ego via "idealistic" speeches and the chance to posture as a self-sacrificing martyr. Worst case scenario, he actually convinces people of his beliefs, and you suddenly have to deal with Thanos groupies and cultists. What's more, this risk is balanced only by the benefits of adherence to the rule of law and the concept of fair justice. . . except that the crime is so severe and so ubiquitous as to render the idea of a fair trial pretty much impossible. Either you pretend that you have actually assembled an impartial judge and jury ( which you haven't ), or else you openly admit to yourself that its a show trial with an undoubted outcome. Neither choice actually does the concept of rule of law any actual good.
I think part of what makes Thanos work is better selection of color. Sure, they are fairly muted and dull, but he's still purple flesh encased in gold/bronze metal, which is a step up from the generic tones of Steppenwolf. Part of it, is that Thanos is fairly faithful to a comic design that has been refined by nearly 40 years of the test of time, giving a strong foundation for the movie-makers to work with. Meanwhile, Steppenwolf was an almost indifferent adaptation, of a modern revamp, of a character who might be as old as Thanos, but has received nowhere near the focus or attention ( and thus the need to "work" or else be fixed ).
Honestly, I feel like Thanos really lost his edge as the near invincible figure that he had been portrayed as prior to "Endgame".
From the looks of things, it seems like we already had a few characters who could have defeated and killed Thanos if he had been on his own and without the gauntlet at his disposal.
Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, and IW Thor have all appeared to be capable in killing him on their own.
Honestly, I feel like Thanos really lost his edge as the near invincible figure that he had been portrayed as prior to "Endgame".
From the looks of things, it seems like we already had a few characters who could have defeated and killed Thanos if he had been on his own and without the gauntlet at his disposal.
Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, and IW Thor have all appeared to be capable in killing him on their own.
What makes Thanos impressive is not his awesome power. Yeah, he's got Peak Hulk strength combined with excellent hand to hand combat skills, expertise in miltary strategy along with impressive leadership abilities. But this version ain't firing beams of cosmic energy from his fingertips.
What makes Thanos impressive is that he managed to unmake the world WITHOUT being a singular unstoppable force. He got lucky along the way - Avengers Disassembled, Peter's freak out, Thor's aim - but he Snapped despite the odds being against him. To me, that's impressive.
I was talking about them going up against Thanos when he didn't have the gauntlet at his disposal. I have no doubt that Strange and IW Thor could have killed him on their own under those circumstances.
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