Thanos/The Mad Titan - Josh Brolin

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  1. herolee10 No More Miracles

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    I was talking about them going up against Thanos when he didn't have the gauntlet at his disposal. I have no doubt that Strange and IW Thor could have killed him on their own under those circumstances.
     
  2. Fosterson Registered

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    Strange? Sure.

    Thor? Not really. Lebowski schtick aside, Thor in EG is still the same guy that he was in IW. And that movie already definitively proved that Thanos is FAR stronger than Thor.
     
  3. herolee10 No More Miracles

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    One could easily make an argument for Thor that due gaining a large amount of weight and not being in practice for awhile that it ended up weakening his full potential since he was not as agile and competent like he had once been.
     
  4. pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant

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    That's definitely the point they were trying to get across. Thor lost his mother, father, hammer, eye, home, brother, and best friend within like 5 years. His hubris brought him to tell Rocket, "what more can I lose?" And then he loses against Thanos a second time, he loses half the life in the universe. Depression caught up with him and it broke him. He definitely lost his fighting spirit.

    Stormbreaker Thor (IW) is significantly stronger than Fat Thor (EG)
     
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  5. Drizzle There's no knowing where we're rowing

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    His girlfriend also broke up with him in that time. Damn, Thor really has one of the saddest stories in the MCU.
     
  6. MrWayne aka Mr Stark

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    Yes Thor seriously got handled 3rd time around.. If it wasn't for Cap he'd be a goner
     
  7. samsnee Ok

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    Did anyone else miss Thanos in this one? I know they wanted to focus on the heroes but Brolin gave such a great performance in IW I wish we could have seen more of him. He was good in the third act, but wish he was there more.
     
  8. Filmfan93 The Man in Black

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    Yep, after IW I was all about Thanos.

    Past Thanos was one of the best things about Endgame - he was awesome in the third act (armor, sword, etc) and I loved how the Russos pulled off a different version of him to still be the main threat, while the present Thanos was killed in the first 10 mins.
     
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  9. samsnee Ok

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    IW Thanos seemed much more contemplative and philosophical. You saw some of that in Endgame but makes sense that he wouldn’t be as much since he hadn’t sacrificed Gamora yet.
     
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    WHAT???:loco:
     
  11. TheGuy Dwelling under the Batcave

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    Past Thanos in EG is better than IW Thanos IMO. Much more menacing and his battle scenes are the best, even if his time was shorter. The line "In all my years of conquest, violence, slaughter it was never personal." and "Because now I know what I must do. I will shred this universe down to its last atom." are far more villainous and evil than someone who wants to kill half of all life because his planet was destroyed. I get that Thanos must have a compelling background in order for his motives to have any logic, but in the end it feels very contrived.
     
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  12. Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    Might not have been so easy without the stones when Strange did his duplication trick.
     
  13. MrWayne aka Mr Stark

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    End Game Thanos was unbelievably strong. I thought the OG 3 would have made some dents in him or maybe give a better fight than what we saw in IW but nope, he handled all 3 of their asses like nothing. This was without the stones... Just his brute strength.

    He even took those boulders getting slammed on him by Wanda like wet paper... Dude was not to be effed with and could probably take on ALL of the MCU avengers all at once with no sweat.
     
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    I read the Russos said that 2014 Thanos was at the peak of his game and that IW Thanos was a bit like Fat Thor: he was so obsessed with gathering the stones for the past years that he neglected his training and conditioning.
    Plus the fact that every time he put a stone in the gauntlet it ended up sapping a bit of his energy.
     
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    Scarlet Witch versus Thanos is damn near the best fight in the movie... But nothing can compare to Cap vs Thanos. I get chills just thinking about him catching Mjolnir for the first time, which is only added to by Thor's "I knew it!!!"

    Captain Marvel vs Thanos was the only fight I was disappointed in, TBH. I wanted them to trade blows for a while longer.
     
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    I personally loved 2014 Thanos. Brolin didn't get anywhere near as much screentime, but he was just as compelling.
     
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  17. pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant

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    This makes some sense but honestly, its a bit much. It's easier just to say he wasnt trying. He didn't need to. With two stones (the two most practical battle stones) for most of the movie, he was already "the most powerful being in the whole universe." He got blindsided on titan but still made them look like *****es in the end.

    On the other hand he had all his chips on the table in Endgame. He had his armor (which we can't discount, his cosmic-tech armor must be accounted for considering Tony's terrestrial armor ups his threat level exponentially.) And his sword (if corvus' glaive and thor's hammer are so powerful then this sword we have to believe is just as much of a boon).

    I think that's plenty. He wasn't more powerful in 2014, but he was actually trying.
     
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    EG Thanos >*
     
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    Anyone else notice the directors for these movies never display Thanos telepathy,magic, and power beams. He is much more than just a hulk fighting type character.
     
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    If movie Thanos had all the powers of comic book Thanos then he would be virtually invincible.
    Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch would be nothing more than mere nuisances to him.
     
  21. MrWayne aka Mr Stark

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    For some reason, as strong as CM is, she still seemed to struggle a bit with Thanos. Like why not lift him up in the air do a superman punch into the stratosphere? She plunged through a space ship but still looked like Thanos was stronger than that! LOL
     
  22. Mjolnir Reborn Blunt Instrument

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    I don't think Thanos would have any trouble punching through a ship, he just can't fly. Thor did it as well in IW. Given that Thanos broke Cap's shield by force I'd say that he should overpower all heroes. The only one in the MCU I could see being stronger was Surtur.
     
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    EG Thanos was definitely the one I was looking for, it was the same guy that broke Loki's neck, so brutal lol.

    He's not going to reason with you, he's there to assert his dominance and be ruthless in pursuit of his quest.
     
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  24. MrWayne aka Mr Stark

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    Wait a minute.... Thanos did the first Snap on earth and everyone got dusted... Then there is the snap that caused the Blip and brought everyone back. Then you have Peter who describes to Tony what had happened kind of in between all that... Then you have the Iron Man Snap....

    Point is, Thanos and his goons can't be dead. They must all be in the same realm or limbo all the heroes when to when they got dusted, no???

    THEY NEVER PONTIFICATED WHERE EXACTLY EVERYONE WHO GOT DUSTED WENT EITHER...

    :thf:
     
  25. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

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    Uh... No. They were dead. The victims of the first snap died. And when Iron Man took them out... Thanos and his goons died. Peter was not in any way describing some limbo or afterlife. He was describing his moment of death and then coming back to life on Titan and finding Dr. Strange and the others there. There is no hint at some kind of limbo where the people who were destroyed by the snap went to in either film. Even the scene of Thanos talking to young Gamora (Who wasn't one of the dusted let's remember) is actually a scene about something ELSE, not the repository of the "souls" of the dusted. It was supposed to be a bookend deal. Thanos sees a vision of Gamora, the only person he supposedly had any affection for. Then in Endgame Tony was supposed to see a teenaged/young adult version of Morgan give him her blessing or assure him he was doing the right thing sacrificing himself or some such, which was cut out in the editing process.

    But again... Thanos and his goons are D-E-A-D.

    Tony Stark never showed much if any qualms about taking a fool out whether major villain or henchman. I don't think he suddenly develops some high minded moral code about his methods when confronted with a being that literally 20 minutes earlier was bragging about killing all life AGAIN and then remaking the universe as he sees fit as though he were some dark God of creation.
     

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